Interviews/Articles -
Carew, Anthony, 1998, "Hoss", Beat Magazine.
Joel Silbersher has been around a long time now. Long enough to know
not to hold any credence in the "underrated" tag that seems permanently
fixed to Hoss' name. Long enough to take the championing of press with
a grain of salt, and the championing of musical contemporaries in his stride.
Far removed from the days when Hoss were the next-big-thing on the brink
of a breakthrough, Silbersher is now left to simply - heaven forbid
- worry but about making good records. Hoss' latest Do you Leave here Often?,
is just that.
It is with some surprise, at first, the (that) Silbersher
takes to the news that a long time ago, back when this writer was just
a boy, Hoss posters graved the counters of Brashs.
"Well there were certain times that people were telling us all sorts
of certain shit that was going to happen. But then again, I've been told
that every year of my musical life."
"This is the breakthrough year', right?
"Yeah, I can smell it in the wind, it's going to happen this
year, baby."
And given that rock-n-roll astrology is to be left
to one side, the most important point (selling point?) is that Do you Leave
here Often? is a more tapered (tempered?) recording than it's Everyday
Lies predecessor, much more flatly-recorded and reluctant in its songwriting.
As it opens with the title track, it is entirely clear that the rock-thunder
and shit-in-your-beer days of Silbersher's celebrated past are indeed gone
- the process of osmosis no doubt heightened through Tendrils and Melonman.
As a blues progression rings through the punctuated tones on a tinny amp,
the decidely 'true' quality of space is quite apparent. It sounds simply
as if a mic has been left in the corner as Silbersher works on a song.
You can, quite literally, imagine yourself there as each member joins in;
deftly, quietly. It signifies that much of what will follow on the LP is
honest, transient and unformed. Some songs possibly still works-in-progress.
It is far removed from the standard bar-room rock.
"Well", Silbersher ponders, "it's not like we have some kind of formula
- like AC-DC or the Ramones or John Lee Hooker - something that's so pure
and simple and good that we can continue to do the same thing all the time.
As we continue to progress, it's becoming more and more different all of
the time, much more like a mongrel. We've never attempted to radically
change things, and in a way I don't think we have. It's just been the natural
process of the band."
Silbersher has also teamed up with Charlie Owen to again record another
Tendrils document, this time "for a little earlier in the evening",
and with a contribution from Jim White; who Joel would go onto describe
- after the first fawning words came from here - as "a very beautiful drummer.
Very emotional."
"The song that he did, we recorded three versions of. And each time
he played something that just had a totally, totally different feel. I
don't think he ever plays the same thing twice. That's the thing about
him, and Mick Turner also, they never seem to play the same thing twice.
I like musicians like that - Charlie is like that also. He plays something
different each time, even if he's played the song like a million times.
I hope that I can bring that to my music."It's that resurfacing vibe of
non-uniformity that makes Hoss a rather strange rock-n-roll creation. Silbersher
sees this in the reactions of people. "I think every record we do," he
elaborates, "there'll be people who say 'oh I liked that record you did,
but this new one's too different'. That's happened for so many years
now. But I suppose I'm always hoping that people will take something
new from what we continue to do, that even if they've never liked nothing
we've done previously, or just that one thing, that they may hear something
in what we're doing at the time. Or maybe they can go back to their copy
of You Get Nothing and like nothing else that we do ever again."
Jones, Tamas, 1995, 'A f**kin' rock star', Inpress Magazine.
"It was a great snooze, very deep," explains Joel Silbersher last week.
"I made a hot bath last thing last night and that was the end of me and
I just work (woke?) up then all freezing cold and I had to get out and
talk to you."
Silbersher is explaining the delayed interview time and I can't help
but voice my thoughts; isn't falling asleep in the bath dangerous?
"Oh well," replies Silbersher, clearly still not fully awake, "I'm
living on the edge. Just because of all the money and drugs and groupies...
just because I don't have any of that stuff, that doesn't mean that I can't
a fuckin' rock star. I'm like that guy from Deep Purple; "I'm not long
for this world so you better fucking get into the music now'."
Silbersher is on the phone to talk about Hoss's new LP titled Everyday
Lies as well as some up-coming live gigs. For the duration of the interview
he answers questions in the same groggy tone, and for the most part seems
not really all that happy about being awaken from his slumber.
He is however clearly pleased with the result's
of the band's recording time and sparks up whenever he talks about the
LP.
"I think it's really good," says Silbersher of the LP. "It's been a
while since it was finished so I've had to go back and listen to it to
retake on it but I find that it stands up. It was recorded in a strange
way and so I'm surprised at how cohesive it sounds."
By recording "in a strange way", I presumed that
Silbersher was referring to the quick recording time.
"Well that record Everyday Lies was done basically in three sessions
in studios and was basically real quick sessions and it wasn't done all
at the same time. It was like we'd write three songs and then rehearse
'em a couple of times and if we had the money we'd go and record 'em...
I wasn't being half as precious as I've been with the last records. I've
been doing things like this for a little while because I record them and
it's not necessary. And besides", adds Silbersher, "I like the freshness."
Fresh indeed, Everyday Lies captures Hoss in a dynamic
range of moods from straight out rock to a simpler blues-like boogie into
introspective, slow sonic meanderings. The music is rough but interestingly
so; sometimes the uncut stone is more beautiful than the jewel it is turned
into. Silbersher's voice has a jagged edge to it which sits well with his
caustic lyrics and loose guitar riffs. It seems to me that in certain band
situations the chemistry between members is such that musicseems to happen
of its own accord.
"Oh absolutely," agrees Silbersher, "and those are the moments I'm
interested in these days. You know a lot of the time, whatever you can
say for practicing over and over again and playing heaps of gigs before
you record, even though you gain something in tightness or whatever, those
moments are less likely to happen. It's easier for those moments to happen
if the song isn't set in stone."
Hoss's music is one that is rooted in the tradition
of rock-n-roll and yet provides a new view of it. Thus Silbersher hopes
that "these records have unique personalities of their own; that's something
that I miss in a lot of music today, it all just seems a bit faceless to
me.
"Rock-n-roll is old now", finishes Silbersher, and we've had decades
of it and the people of this band have really immersed themselves in rock-n-roll
for the whole time it's been around. It's the only thing I'm interested
in."
McPhee, Natalie, 1998, "Hoss - The Tote", Inpress Magazine.
Hoss seem to be one of those bands that everybody raves about, but
only the dedicated turn up to their gigs. Tonight saw a healthy sized crowd
fill the Tote in order to watch the much talked about foursome strut their
stuff. Although strut might not be quite the word to describe the excellent
performance the band put in. It was more a low slung wander through the
new album Do you Leave Here Often?
Dirty sparse songs with elements of blues and straight
ahead rock seem to signify a new and improved band since I last witnessed
them several years ago. Gone are the days of artful played screeching guitars,
thumping drums and seriously scary vocals, the sound of the new album judging
from this performance is all about taking time to get to places, using
instruments both sparingly and unexpectedly, and having that extra something
that made several blokes want to shimmy. Hoss were simply amazingly entertaining
tonight, with the highlight being the closing song (before the encore)
that went on forever in what seemed like a completely extended version
of a classic song. The floor was shaking and the punters all seemed to
have that dropped jaw look of awe or ear-to-ear smile. It was just one
of those performances where you walk away so satisfied that if you never
saw a live gig again it would be OK because you experienced Hoss at The
Tote.
Shorland, Holly, 1998, "Hoss, The Exotics. Punter's Club", Beat Magazine.
Hoss were a lot more subdued than I remember, they've changed a lot.
Most of the songs were short and varied in style. Hoss are in what appears
a transitional stage. Their newer songs are shorter, quieter and more compact,
and older songs raunchy, rambling and loud. Side by side they seemed
a bit out of kilter, but taking frontman Joel Silbersher's other work into
consideration (such as the mellow and introspective Melonman and the Tendril
stuff he did with Charlie Owen) they seemed to make more sense as part
of the same set.
Highlights were Bomb of Joy, a crashing, grinding
rock song, Noxious which was like a hard and fast country song and Jack,
which was loud and mean. Hoss are different to a lot of bands from their
original posse - they aren't really into lead breaks and showing off their
macho guitar style, they're more into building a song up with a pulsing,
grinding beat - it's different, and shows the change in direction Hoss
are taking.
Sutherland, Craig, 199-?, 'Everyday rock? Rock Everyday!', Beat Magazine
(Melb.).
It's early afternoon and I'm sitting in a cafe at the non-funky end
of Chapel St. Hot Chocolate are playing tag team with The Cranberries on
the stereo. A coffee sits before me as well as Joel Silbersher, one of
Australia's rock treasures and by far, one of our most prolific producers
of quality music. Apart from being 'the man' in Hoss for the past six years,
he also has released Tendrills with Charlie Owen and Melonman, his solo
project.
Hoss have just released Everyday Lies, the band's
fourth album and have begun work on album number five, Joel is ready to
release another Melonman record and has been working through songs with
Charlie Owen for another recording with him. Joel Silbersher is 24 and
now had at least six albums under his belt, going on nine, something he
doesn't find all that amazing.
"There's a lot of hours in the day, I consider myself a musician and..."
He leaves the sentence unfinished. We decide to talk about Melonman and
why he needed to do a solo project.
"I do need to be making music all the time but I didn't have to do
Melonman, like I said, there's a lot of hours in the day. Everyone in Hoss
works and it's not the sort of thing you'd be doing, Hoss business 24 hours
a day, even if you could."
A Cranberry wail ends on the speakers and Errol
Brown leads Hot Chocolate into You Sexy Thing.
"Yeah, just steps up the mood a little bit," Joel says "I believe in
Milko, since you came along... "silence., we both look down at our coffee...
"sexy thing."
The new album Everyday Lies is a part of Joel's
life in more ways than one. The title suggest a side of Joel not always
apparent and the song titles Clueless and Bullshit Never Ends pretty much
makes the point obvious.
"It's a concept album about bullshit," Joel says straight-faced but
full with humour, "but it's not a concept album. I was just dwelling on
the same depressing shit I guess, I was just trying to make some sense
of my own life, the ideas of my versus my actual life and watching everyone
else do the same. Watching them conceptualise their lives so that they
can handle what fuckin'... what boring fuckin' lives, boring fuckin' pointless
activities they I don't know."
Does he find his own activities futile?
"Not currently, but at the time, I was a real vegie. People who spend
too much time sitting around in their own heads, not actually doing anything,
things can get pretty twisted and they did for me for a while there. It's
just me rejecting certain ways of doing things that I have developed
and rejecting a lot of the bullshit I was hearing from people I know."
It might be due to this supposed lack of achievement
that bought about the recording of Everyday Lies. While Bring on The Juice
was recorded after the songs had been well and truly road tested. Everyday
Lies was recorded pretty much on the spot, resulting in a more manic, unprepared
sound.
"It's a lot rougher, it sounds rougher to me. I've said to a couple
of people I've talked to about it, that maybe my idea of it though. I haven't
heard Bring on The Juice for so long that I probably have an unrealistic
idea of what it even sounds like."
"The sessions were far apart, not overly rehearsed and very fast and
not particularly relaxed when we were in there. As a result, the songs
just come out however sounding they come out and now that I step back and
look at it, I really like it, it sounds really rough and desperate."
The Cranberries have swapped over for about the
third time this afternoon and now start another wall. "This is nice," Joel
says lifting an eyebrow, resplendent in faced Motorhead T-shirt.
The other noticeable change in the music is its
pace. Although there are great differences in the music Joel makes, there
is a common thread. Lately it seems as though the pace of the music is
slowing. Although Everyday Lies is as rough as it sounds, it too sounds
a little more even paced than its predecessor.
"That's the way everything seems to be moving, I don't want to do it
so hard anymore. I want to have the energy to fuckin' put in and play the
rock and roll as hard and as passionately as it demands me to play. I want
to do those songs justice but I don't want to be suppressing, I want
it to be easy and fun."
Is this the future for Joel Silbersher? Will he
be the guy we go to see in a sit down venue while he plays slow acoustic
numbers.
"If my throat or ears pack up on me like what happened to Lou Reed,
then I suppose there are other things I can do but Hoss is a rock'n'roll
band and you've got to have a certain amount of juice to do it. I can do
it on auto-pilot but I don't want to. We can do whatever we want
there's new songs and new kinds of songs and in the next few years we will...
we won't be fucked up by anyone's expectations."