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LTarot

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Trionfi, Tarocchi and Tarot
in 15th Century
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for History of Tarot
Well ...
what are we doing there?
We discuss the early Tarot, the origin of the cards. We do research in an honest way, try to find out more and try to publish it, quick, on the shortest way, to inform people.If we don't know something, we say, we don't know it, and when we know something, we say, what we know.  And we know, that we don't know all.

If you've something to say in these questions, come and join us and tell it, perhaps we've something to learn.If you only are interested to listen to our discussions, come in and take your seat.

Occasionally we've a little fun ... but most is concentrated on real work, and that's research of the details and the background of early Tarot, and  perhaps you're first impression might be, that these guys and girls don't talk about Tarot at all. And perhaps you're a little shocked, that we don't always talk in the soft and moderated tone as common in Tarot circles - we're researchers, we fight for the aim, that things become clear and unhidden and we appreciate, when somebody becomes clear in his opinion, even in the case, that it is not our own. So here is a place for the art of debating and exchange of arguments, and we perceive it as good to feel the engagement of somebody in this matter.

Sorry, we do not care too much about beginners in the theme. Basic informations could be spread at other places, see our recommendations at "Other Forums" At the moment we're quite young, have only few members until now (July 2003 /15 or 16), but we do make a lot of noise (450 posts in 4 monthes in our maingroup, 400 in the subgroups). We're organized in one main forum for general talk and announcement etc.., and some subgroups, which are only builded to work on special projects. Special projects are in the moment:

Boiardo-Poem

Ferrara 1441

Malatesta

Old Italian money

The momentary results can be visited at the links above. The Boiardo-Poem is rather complete, Ferrara 1441 is on its way. Malatesta and Old Italian money are quite new.

Our publishing place is
http://trionfi.com. If any researcher prefers to publish at another place, we've no problem with it. If his work has some quality, we simply link to it and try to give it a chance, that it is seen. We simply try to organise, that research is done effectively, there is no great effect, when various people try to develop the same thing at different corners. Things expand better in cooperation, net publication is hard work and should be organised a little to be effective.

That's what we try ...

autorbis, July 2003
Unluckily there are only few specialised Tarot forums, which explicitly note their interest in Tarot history.

First one has to note the newsgroup
alt.tarot, which once had been a great place of Tarot debating in the early time, when Internet was young and particapants worked  mostly with 386-PCs just being able to receive mere email with 14400-modem. It was a chaotic time with the great charme of a new beginning. Alt.tarot still exists in even more chaotic manner, but the great spirits are mostly gone their own way. Alt.tarot is reachable at google.com/groups, but take care, that you use a second unimportant emailaddress to become not an object of spam-post.

After alt.tarot the email-list
TarotL became the leading place for Tarot-history and it exists somehow still with a big searchable archive of 37000 posts and 1200 members. For our own taste it looks overmoderated, too much rules and too much noise about hurting the rules. Historians are sensible about the function of "free speech", and don't like to loose energies discussing with moderators, they simply leave.The number of posts has decreased considerably, especially the earlier special worth of the group, the  historic themes, have left.

ComparativeTarot (ca. 900 / 44000 / website)
AllThingsTarot (ca. 600 / 26000 / website)
learning_the_tarot (ca. 1100 / 24000 / website)

are well established, good running groups. The theme of history is only seldom the object of discussion.

tarot_traditions (ca. 200/1200/website)

is a young group with a promising name. However, until now it doesn't fill the possible function and doesn't differ much from the others. Some small groups should be mentioned (all yahoogroups.com):
TarotTales and Tarot-historians, but they fight with only small chances for an interesting object.

MOST PROMISING::
Tarotforum.net from Aeclectic Tarot has 2400 members and ca. 160000 posts, it's already the biggest group, that I met. They do organise their topics  in various subforums and since younger time they also have
a group
Tarot History & Iconography for Study of the history and esoteric symbology of Marseilles and other pre-1900 tarot cards, until now it has around 1500 posts. It's only a beginning, but the prospects are good and the people are friendly there..

The forum-technique differs from yahoogroups.com, but has pleasant aspects. You've to become a member to post in the forum, membersip ar the ground-level is free.

Also interesting looks
world_tarot_network, which edits a newsletter (ca. 500 sucribers) and seems to intend to build up a head-platform for Tarot. But it also seems, that they still have smaller organisational problems (website).

Midaughter is an interesting forum for studies of I-Ching
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