Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:37:19 -0700 From: jgstarr@PRIMENET.COM (JG Starr) Subject: Re: A break from CNG and other $500,000,000 problems To: AZRKBA@asu.edu
Rick,
I can send this to all the house and senate if you like, but I also have a question - I sent out a text file with the whole email list on it the other day when you were trying to find the goaz and kaba mailers and having no luck. Did it not go through? I can resend if anybody wants...or paste it into a mail if attachments are a prob.
Jeff
-----Original Message----- From: Richard DeStephens <r.destephens@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> To: AZRKBA@asu.edu <AZRKBA@asu.edu> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: A break from CNG and other $500,000,000 problems
>[Can somebody send this to the Arizona legislature for me?] you can take
>out this note, please.
>
>Howdy, my pro-freedom legislators.
>
>Let me begin by quoting, yet again, Arizona's Constitution, specifically
>the "Declaration of Rights" Article 2, Section 26: "The right of the
>individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the State shall
>not be impaired."
>
>There's been some serious imparing going on in the sleepy burg known as
>Glendale.
>
>Here is a short report concerning our recent armed protest at the
>Glendale Velma Teague library last Saturday (made the front page of the
>Arizona Republic "Valley and State" section).
>
>The quote of the day that didn't make to the paper or the airwaves was
>by one of the Glendale PD brass, and I quote: "We are not here to debate
>the law. We are here to take your guns." Not a smart thing to say to a
>group of gun rights activists.
>
>After the Glendale PD was shown, in front of the TV crew, that they
>didn't understand the subtleties of their checking policy, let alone
>that their policy (a ham-fisted attempt to comply with ARS 13-3108 and
>13-3102(A)(10)) required that any gun owner submit to gun registration.
>The gun is taken from the owner, and the owner has to fill out a
>one-page form which includes full ID and...make, model and serial
>number...yes, you heard it...the serial number of the gun.
>
>This is called gun registration for those not paying close attention.
>And it is specifically illegal for the government to register guns. The
>City of Glendale has broken the law. Will there be a penalty? Was such a
>penalty written into the preemption statute? No? Toothless law, eh?
>
>The form is carboned in quadruplicate. The gun and forms are taken to
>the PD station (up to ten miles away) and the owner must then travel
>through Glendale's prostitute, crack and amphetamine neighborhoods to
>pick up the gun, or knife. Three copies of the form are held by the
>police, and the owner might get the fourth, maybe not. The forms are
>kept in Glendale filing cabinets indefinately. Glendale claims this is
>not true registration because no computer were used, just 1930s style
>filing cabinets....like the ones Musolini used to disarm Italian Jews
>before they were shipped north to Poland.
>
>So, we have a Glendale policy which allows gun registration and the
>disarming of citizens which take the form of felony stops "Turn around,
>put your hands on your head. You are not under arrest." Yeah, right.
>Tell that to the people gawking at the law-abiding gun owner.
>
>After hearing about this I called Glendale Chief of Police, David
>Dobrotka 623-930-3051 and asked him what was up. He told me he would
>look into it. He never got back with me. Silly me, I assumed he told his
>officers to chill a bit. Did they? Well, yesterday a man, who may
>already have e-mailed you or soon will, attempted to check his gun. The
>officer approached him as he would a rape suspect, hand on his gun and
>ordering the peaceful citizen (who happened to have a gun) to raise his
>hands out to his sides. People had passed this same man without a care
>until the cop came along and made him look like a criminal. Suddenly
>potential library patrons were afraid to enter or leave. Not because of
>the lawful gun owner but because of the actions of the cop with the bad
>attitude....or is it the fault of the police administration who trained
>their some of their police to behave like over-bearing thugs?
>
>Tomorrow (Tuesday) Senator Darden Hamilton has finally been granted the
>privilege of meeting with the power brokers in Glendale after being
>stiffed for weeks. We fully expect the City of Glendale who actively
>lobbied against HB2095 (preemption bill) to bob, weave, stall, and
>stammer. They will say that librarians shouldn't be handling guns. Well,
>whenever I have checked my gun at courts and other government buildings
>the security guard has NEVER touched my gun. The city of Glendale will
>tell you that they are not really registering firearms, they are just
>creating receipts so that we may get our guns back. Sorry, but I have
>the official Glendale "receipt" in my hot little hands. It has my gun's
>serial number. I, and others now have standing. The City of Tucson voted
>tonite to install lock boxes. Why? Because *their* City Attorney told
>them if they didn't they would be facing five years of lawsuits.
>
>Let the fun begin.
>
>Rick
>Glendale 85310
>