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A joint Webhead session (WiA and BaW) featuring

Special Guest, Curtis Bonk.

Tapped In, 8 Feb. 2004

Chat log

 

This Sunday we had an enormous turnout because there were three simultaneous Webhead events going on between 12:00 - 14:00 GMT - the usual Sunday Webheads in Action meeting, a second tour of TI by BJB for BaW participants and a REO (Real English Online) chat.

A special 'thank you' from all WiAs and BaWs to our Special guest, Curtis Bonk (USA).

Participants: Aiden Yeh (Taiwan), Andrew Pincon (USA), Anna Koorey (Australia), BJB (USA), Buthaina Al-Othman (Kuwait), Claire B. Siskin (USA), Dafne Gonzalez (Spain), David Brown (USA), Elderbob/Robert Brannan (USA), Elizabeth Hanson-Smith (USA), Ellen Galan (Brazil), Eva Wilden (Germany), Fernanda Rodrigues (Portugal), Fiona Lawtie (Venezuela), Jane Petring (Canada), Josefin Bergenholtz (Sweden), Leah Sullivan (Japan), Maggi Doty (Germany), Maria (Conceição) Brito (Portugal), Maria Jordano (Spain), Michael Coghlan (Australia), Michael Marzio (France), OlgaP (Lithuania), Peter Simon (China), Raymond Crooke (Australia), Sara Martín (Spain), Sarath Seneviratne (India), Susan Burg (Italy), Susan Esnawy (Egypt), Susana Trabaldo (Argentina), Susanne Nyrop (Denmark), Teresa Almeida d'Eça (Portugal) and Vance Stevens (UAE). [Hope I haven't missed anyone!]

 

VIP(oint): This chat contains many useful links on several different topics: lots of food for thought!

 

Sun, 8Feb2004

Tapped In

# Tappedin transcript for TeresaD, 2004.02.08 06:34:13

2004.02.08 03:56:59 Login

Room: TI_Reception

TeresaD joined the room.
FernandaR: Hi
BjB hugs Daf and Tere
TeresaD: morning everyone!
MargaretD: Hi #Tere
TeresaD hugs bj
DafneG hugs everybody
BjB: Raymond, do you see Featured Passageways above this chat window?
LeahS joined the room.
DafneG: oh, Eva just left
TeresaD hugs fern and maggi
TeresaD: welcome, leah!
DafneG: hi Raymond
RaymondC: no
DafneG: hi there, Leah
RaymondC: hi dafne
BjB: let's try another way, Raymond...
BjB: single click on the ONLINE tab to the left of this chat window
TeresaD: hello raymond
LeahS: Hi everyone
OlgaP joined the room.
ClaireB joined the room.
RaymondC: hi Teresa
BjB: then single click on BJ and the door icon at the bottom of the frame
TeresaD: hi eva (in germany)  ;-)
RaymondC: okay.
DafneG: hi Claire
DafneG: hi Olga
TeresaD hugs clarinha
JosefinB joined the room.
SusanneN joined the room.
TeresaD: welcome josefin!  :-)
MichaelAC joined the room.
TeresaD hugs sus
SusanneN: Hello everyone!
RaymondC: It says error - select a username and try again
MichaelMa joined the room.
FernandaR: Hi, Sus
MichaelAC: Greetings all
SusanneN hugs a huge group hug
JosefinB: Hello, thanks!
MargaretD: hi c
BjB hugs Sus
TeresaD kisses mc on both cheeks  :-)
MichaelAC: Aw shucks
SusanEsn joined the room.
LeahS: Bj?? There's no door icon on my frame
DafneG hugs MC
MichaelAC: Lovely welcome Tere
MichaelMa: Hi everybody - For those of you participating in REO , go to Elizabeth's office
MichaelAC: And Daf
TeresaD: lovely to see you here, mike
SusanneN: Hi Josefin, we're almost Neighborus, I'm in Denmark, north of Copenhagen :-)
MichaelMa: Type      /enter Comp_for_Ed
SusanEsn: hi everybody
MichaelMa: He Tere
MichaelMa: Hi Sus
SusanneN: Hello Susan! nice to see you again
TeresaD: hi mikem!
JosefinB: Yes we are, lovely city Copenhagen ;-)
SusanEsn: nice to see you too.
RaymondC left the room.
FernandaR: anyone from Finland?
TeresaD: hi susan. how's cairo?
DafneG: hi Susan, just posted your pic on our page :-)
TeresaD: still talking about webheads?!
BjB: to see the door icon you have to click on the online tab to the left of the chat window
SusanEsn: fine. weather is ok toady
SusanEsn: sorry, mean today
VanceS joined the room.
LeahS: thanks BJ, got it
SusanEsn: what is REO?
MichaelAC: Welcome back Vance
DavidBro joined the room.
VanceS: hi everyone
DafneG waves hi to Vance
SusanneN: Leah, to see the door exit icon, click on Whjo's here; you cannot move inside this room
SusanEsn: Hi vance
VanceS bows thrice
TeresaD: welcome david. long time no see!
TeresaD: hi vance
DavidBro: Good Morning!
DafneG: hi David
ElizabethH joined the room.
SusanneN bows humbly to  Laoshe Vance
DafneG: hi Elizabeth
VanceS: David which?
MichaelMa: For those of you in REO Chat, type /enter Comp_for_Ed to go to Elizabeth's office
BjB: if you are here for the tour, click on AFTER SCHOOL ONLINE under Featured Passageways on the right above this chat window
FernandaR: Hi, Vance
TeresaD: hello elizabeth! how's florida?
DavidBro: Sorry I couldn't make it Thursday
AndrewP joined the room.
TeresaD: welcome andy
SusanneN: Hi Andy!
ElizabethH . o O ( hugs to one and all! )
VanceS waves to Andy
DafneG: nice you could make it today, David
AndrewP: good morning, US wise, everyone,
MichaelAC smiles
DafneG waves hello to Andy
CurtB joined the room.
CurtB: Hi
SusanEsn: please, what is REO?
SusanneN is sorry for all those whom I did not give a personal welcoem and greeting yet
ElizabethH: FL is cool and cloudy and very windy, but it beats 0 degrees and snow!
MichaelMa left the room (signed off).
SusanneN: Oh hello Mr Bonk!!
VanceS plays fanfare
TeresaD: welcome curtis (from portugal)
FernandaR: Real English Online
BjB: REO is real english online
DafneG: nice to have you here Dr. Bonk
EvaW joined the room.
SusanEsn: thanks fernanda
CurtB: It would not take my password; sorry I am late; had to reset it (again)
DafneG hugs Eva
ClaireB left the room (signed off).
SusanEsn: hi dafne, elizabeth
EvaW waves to all
VanceS: Hi Curt, glad you could join us
DafneG: there is no lateness here :-)
CurtB: stupid case sensitive system
TeresaD ::waves to german eva!  :-)
ElizabethH: REO chat doesn't start for another hour, I believe! 13:00 GMT
RaymondC joined the room.
MichaelAC smiles at Daf
SusanneN: Vance, are we going to stay here in chaos or move upstairs to a more comfprtable place with Webheads meeting Curt Bonk?
BjB: if you are here for the tour, click on AFTER SCHOOL ONLINE under Featured Passageways on the right above this chat window
SusanneN: because we have some overlapping sessions today
BjB: The tour will start in one minute
VanceS: I I can see that DETACHing this chat window is going to be paramount today
DavidBro left the room.
SusanEsn: Sus, where is this meeting w/ curt going to be?
EvaW: I'll join Bee for the tour. perhaps  i'll jump back and forth between the session.
ClaireB joined the room.
EvaW: if I manage too, :-)
EvaW: see you later
VanceS: To Sus, I suggest we remain here for a few minutes at least to let people arrive
SusanneN: Eva, you can read the chatlogs if you are missing anything
EvaW left the room.
SusanneN: OK Vance
DafneG: BJ, you can go to ASO and we will send people there by /join BJB what about that?
VanceS: also, let's see who's going on the tour
SusanneN: this is like a real bus station :-)
VanceS: So BJ will be conducting a tour in the ASO  correct?
BjB: done, Daf
BjB: yes, Vance
SusanEsn: ok vance and sus
DafneG: ok
MichaelMa joined the room.
DafneG: yes, VAnce for BaW who could not make it on Thursday
DafneG: Those of you taking the tour type   /join BJB
PeterSi: God, are there  two tours? Which on is for the webhead? Where can I go for that? your writing is so fast, I can't follow this especially while writing.
VanceS: ok, well my only concern with moving off this spot is that we confuse people who arrive late
MichaelMa: skycloudija: - What is your real name - and your name here ?
BjB: Peter, there is only one tour
VanceS: Have you found the DETACH key, Peter?
BjB: if you are here for the tour, click on AFTER SCHOOL ONLINE under Featured Passageways on the right above this chat window
DafneG: Peter, go to the actions menu and detach
JosefinB: I can?t find where to go for the tour. there is no after school online..
ClaireB left the room (signed off).
VanceS: Have you detached your chat Curt?
AdaL joined the room.
PeterSi: OK, got that.
MargaretD: I can stay here #Vance
CurtB: not sure what detach means
RaymondC left the room.
TeresaD: separate the chat window, curt
ClaireB joined the room.
MichaelMa: Hi Olga!
TeresaD: it will be bigger
VanceS: Actions upper right part of chat dialog box
VanceS: Pull down and click on DETACH
BjB: click on the ONLINE TAB to the left of this chat window, single click on EvaW and then click on the door icon at the bottom of the frame if you are here for the tour
CurtB: I am not sure what separate the chat window means
DafneG: in the Actions drop down menu, Curt
VanceS: this lets you resize the chat window
CurtB: I told Vance I was not good in Tapped IN
TeresaD: you get a new window jujst for the chat, curt
VanceS: there are a lot of people here new to Tapped In
ClaireB left the room (signed off).
PeterSi: Actually, you can make that window bigger than at startout, great, I can see much more now, thanks everybody and cheers.
AndrewP: Vance is Curt using any voice tools, Yahoo or alado.net/webheads so you can talk with him
DafneG: it is normal for first timers,
AndrewP: this is the penultimate of cat herding
ClaireB joined the room.
CurtB: ok
CurtB: I detached
MichaelMa: Hi Olga!
ClaireB left the room (signed off).
MargaretD: maybe we should just let BJ give instructions
VanceS: Andy, I asked Curt about using the voice tools earler and he would prefer a gradual entry to Webheads
SusanneN: WE have many newcomers  as we're running a workshop called Becoming a Webhead, we're at teh end of week two now.
AndrewP: yes, Maggie, good idea
DafneG: Susan, are you going to ASO or staying here?
DafneG: SusanEsn, I meant
PeterSi: How many has voice tools here?
ElizabethH: Welcome PeterSimon.
VanceS: Andy, btw, is Andy Pinchon, who has graciously allowed us to use the Alado voice chat facility
SusanEsn: i am staying here dafne. i attended the thursday session
DafneG: Tapped In is only text chat, Peter
CurtB: I have a new headset on my head but I have yet to get this puppy to work
VanceS: you might want to have a look later, Curt
JosefinB left the room.
DafneG: oh, yes, that's right, Susan, :-)
MichaelMa: Ho Olga!
PeterSi: Good, no voice tools with me so that's fine
OlgaP left the room (signed off).
OlgaP joined the room.
VanceS: The nice thing about Webheads is that it's like a berry bush
SusanneN: I'm aosl staying here because BJ can handle the few newcomers in her ususl training session, they do not need me
MichaelAC: Berry bush?
SusanEsn: i am actually not going to be here for long. i am at a lab. at the univ. waiting for something to be done to my laptop, then i will have to go back to my off.
MichaelMa: Ho Olga - are you here ?
VanceS: you can pick text chat, or you can have text chat AND voice
OlgaP: yes
MichaelMa: good
SusanneN: what about a quick intro round?
DafneG: Maria is with BJ
ElizabethH: Peter, Olga, Ada, Leah--do you want to do the tour?
OlgaP: Now I am here : ))
JaneAP joined the room.
CurtB: You have berry bushes in the UAE Vance?
MichaelMa: we will wait a couple of minutes here and then go to Elizabeth's office
VanceS: I don't know if you are familiar with Scollon and Scollon but it was one of their metaphors of computer-based communications
PeterSi: Fine, anything
MichaelAC: Good idea Sus - re the intros
LeahS: Bjb tour
OlgaP: Elizabeth, sorry , I don't know what does mean tour
VanceS: Linear access vs berry bush access
OlgaP: what do yiou mean?
DafneG: Leah, type /join BJB
VanceS: the computer toys are like berries on a bush
ElizabethH: Olga--there is an explanation of the Tapped In environment starting now in another chat room
VanceS: if one looks tasty you just try it out
CurtB: ok
LeahS: join BJB...but I need the exit directions, again, please
ElizabethH: You can join if you like. It's to help you use this chat room and find out about its features.
MichaelAC: Curt and others - I am in Adelaide, Australia. elearning coodinator, Douglas Mawson institute of Technology
VanceS: I'm going to start MSN and Yahoo now
CurtB: Hi Michael
VanceS: with Yahoo I can broadcast a web cam
LeahS left the room.
MargaretD: and if it's poisonous you can't try any more
SusanneN: those who wish to join BJ - you should know that she has a double presence here; one is tsyaing in the reception and using BjB as her name, another is called BJ and moved to the ASO to a intro tour for newcomers to TI
ElizabethH: Leah--type a / and then join BJB
VanceS: but it's just a berry on the bush, you can see it if you want
MichaelMa: Hi Curt
OlgaP: Elizabeth , have I write now  /enter Comp_for_Ed
VanceS: Is BJ paying attention here?
AndrewP: Michael I'm setting up your portal today for Deb will notify you by email once it's up and running
SusanneN: maybe not, she's a busy person!
DafneG: BJ is taking a tour
MichaelAC: Wonderful news Andy - thank you
SusanneN: we can handle the helpdesking
ElizabethH: Olga--don't go there yet because our REO meeting doesn't start until 13:00.
OlgaP: Sorry, Hi to all!
AnnaKoGst4 joined the room.
VanceS: If she was here (and there) then when we move off she could direct traffic to wherever we go
TeresaD: hi olga
PeterSi: How do I join the tour?
DafneG: Hi Anna
VanceS: otherwise I think we should stay here
TeresaD: welcome anna!
SusanneN: you can send her a PM is you need extra attention
ElizabethH left the room.
DavidBro joined the room.
DafneG: Peter, type   /join BJB
JaneAP: Good morning from Montreal--have I missed part of the tour or has it not yet begun?
ElizabethH joined the room.
DafneG: hi Jane
MichaelMa: Olga - our session begins in 45 minutes - I gave you wrong info
SusanneN: Peter, highlight BJ in your ONline list, of persons, then click on the door icon
TeresaD: it has jane. type /joinBJB
DafneG: the tour is in ASO, type /join BJB and you will get there
SusanneN: the tour is in the ASO
ElizabethH: For newcomers, I suggest you go on the tour. Type "/enter ASO" to go to the tour.
VanceS: yes that's a good idea Sus
MargaretD: I already said I would do that Vance
BjB: type  /join BJ, not bjb
OlgaP: Mike , it's Ok!
VanceS: oh, thanks Maggi
ElizabethH: Daf--BJB is still in this room!
DavidBro left the room (signed off).
TeresaD: thanks bj  :-)
PeterSi: because BJB is not there
JaneAP left the room.
PeterSi: No she isn't, wasn't ten seconds ago
CurtB: You want me to go to ASO vance?
DafneG: thanks I get confused with all the clones
MariaGst1 joined the room.
RobertWB joined the room.
FernandaR: BJ is showing her office
DafneG: hi Bob
PeterSi left the room.
VanceS: Well, I just started a web cam on Yahoo vance_stevens
RobertWB: Good Morning.
TeresaD: hi there bob!
VanceS: if anyone wants to view
ElizabethH: Curt--please stay here with us.
RobertWB: Sorry, I m late
CurtB: ok, elizabeth
SusanneN to  BJ : I've got a little problem today; I do not see any Sedn button for my Private chat messages window
SusanneN: Hi Bob!
TeresaD: you're always in time for fun, bob
VanceS: and I assume people still in this room are here to meet with Webheads today?
DafneG: same here, Sus, I just use the enter key
ElizabethH: Sus--I think you click on the name and then click on the little head icon.
VanceS: And I presume that all here know we have a guest today
CurtB: ok, I am assuming that too
MichaelMa: there's also a REO session, Vance - in Elizabeth's office in 40 min
MichaelAC smiles
ElizabethH: Sus--then Enter/Return key will send the message you type.
DafneG: sure Vance, most of them are from the BaW session, others REO
MichaelAC enjoys the chaos
ClaireB joined the room.
ElizabethH: Welcome, ElderBob
VanceS: ok, then I would like to welcome Curt Bonk who is up early today to meet us
DafneG: Claire are you having problems?
TeresaD: wb clarinha
CurtB: thanks Van
RobertWB: Hello, to everyone.
VanceS: shall we do a quick round of introductions?
DafneG: sure
MargaretD: Vance should take Dr Bonk to a room and those who are interested can follow
SusanEsn: hi robertwb
VanceS: I've Vance, in Abu Dhabi, longtime Webhead
MichaelMa mike tries commands
MichaelAC: What if noone follows??
MichaelAC smiles
SusanneN to Elizabeth, I know how to send a PM, but the  Java pplet is missing the Sedn button, I wanted to know itf others had that problom today.
RobertWB: Morning, Vance.\\
SusanneN: Bj will take care of latecomers, Vnace
TeresaD: i'm teresa, an efl teacher in lisbon, portugal and a webhead
MichaelAC: So RobertWB = elderbob?
VanceS: ok, normally we meet here, and I'm concerned about those who come late
FernandaR: I'm Fernanda, an EFL teacher in Portugal, and a webhead
AndrewP: I'm Andy Pincon, distance ed tech support City Colleges of Chicago and Ex Dir. Workforce Education
VanceS: but we could go to my office?
MariaGst1: Hi I'm Maria Brito from Portugal
RobertWB: Yes, Elderbob..
MichaelMa: I'm Mike - a webhead & videowebhead and ESL teacher in France
SusanEB joined the room.
CurtB: I was an elf for Christmas Teresa.  :-)
SusanneN: we  will all follow , but Vance may be so busy multtasking ?
AndrewP: Good idea ot go to Vance's office
DafneG: I am Dafne and ESP teacher from Venezuela, in Spain now. A webhead since 2002
MargaretD . o O ( 'Vance doesn't trust me )
TeresaD: welcome, conceicao/mariaguest!
SusanEsn: i am susan, an esl/eap teacher at the american university in cairo, egypt
FernandaR: Hi, Coneicao
FernandaR: Conceicao, sorry
DafneG: welcome Coneicao
MichaelMa: Hi Susan
ClaireB left the room (signed off).
DafneG: sorry about typos :-(
VanceS . o O ( after the intros then )
CurtB: I am from Milwaukee Andy (originally) and ran the Chicago Marathon last year
SusanEsn: hi michaelma
SusanneN: I'm Susanne Nyrop, and I know that Curt is a great dancer like Vance :-))
ElizabethH: I'm Elizabeth Hanson-Smith--software developer, webhead and videowebhead
SusanEB: hello everyone!  I am Susan B from U. of Florence
SusanaT joined the room.
ClaireB joined the room.
SusanneN: Besides, I'm from Denmark,
TeresaD: hi, susanb. nice to see you here!!!  :-)
SusanEsn: hello susanEB
DafneG: hi Susana
TeresaD: welcome, susana
AndrewP: we have a pic from the 2002 marathon during Global Learn Day VI were you in that one too
ElizabethH: Remind me later to invite you to my academic writing site--new stuff is mounted
CurtB: How do you know this Susanne?
SusanaT: Teresa !!  How are you!
DafneG: both Susan and Susana
SusanaT: Good morning everybody from Buenos Aires
OlgaP: I am an English teacher from Lithuania
TeresaD: great, thanks, susana
ClaireB left the room (signed off).
SusanEB: too many Susans, getting mixed up
CurtB: yes 2002 was the year Andy
MichaelAC: Enjoying your lunch Vance?
SusanaT: We are  a lot today again !
SusanEsn: elizabeth, do tell me about this acad. writing site later please.
DafneG: I am happy to have so many BaW's in here :-)
ButhainaA joined the room.
SusanneN: hehe Curt, we met some years ago at a confrence in Toronto,  we had dinner together at the table with Slyvia Currie and Cindy Xin from Simon Fraser :-)
VanceS: Claire is from Pennsylvania and is obviously having trouble getting here
TeresaD: three events at the same time today, susana
VanceS: Dafne, maybe you should explain what a BaW is
SusanEsn: hi susana, argentina , wow
ButhainaA: Hello all!
CurtB: Oh that conferenec Susanne; I remember
SusanaT: sorry Tersesa?  What 3 events?
SusanneN: and we all know how Vance is a dancer because Buth documented that yesterday on a webpage
TeresaD: a BaW is a Becoming a Webhead
MariaGst1: It's nice to meet so many people at the same time!!!
SusanEsn: hi buth
CurtB: Cindy and I and many others are going to Ed Media in Switzerland in June
DafneG: Baw stands for Becoming a Webhead, an EVOnline session to introduce teachers to Webheads
AndrewP: Curt: I'll send you privately the screen shot from that Marathon, btw, I'm actually at my home in No. Wisconsin now for this webhead session, 60 miles no. of Green Bay
DafneG: it is a 6-week hands-on workshop
TeresaD: the ti tour, this webhead meeting and a reo (real online english) meeting, susana
SusanaT: ok
DafneG: and we have been very active
CurtB: I have my Green Bay Packers shirt on this mornig and Bret Farve jersey underneath andy
CurtB: My homepage is at:http://mypage.iu.edu/~cjbonk/
DavidBro joined the room.
MichaelMa: When Daf is in charge, you can be sure it's "active"
DafneG: this is the web page: http://www.oocities.org/bawebhead/index.html
SusanneN: It is a VERY hands on workshop, yes
DavidBro left the room.
ClaireB joined the room.
SusanaT: yes, Ishould have a look at the yahoo groups... I've been very busy this week.... I am devoting some time todoay!
DafneG: he he, Michael
VanceS: now, before we go further, I'm happy here, but I'm prepared to be over ruled
CurtB: bio is there.  I teach here in Bloomington Indiana where it is cold and snowy; just back from tampa florida spa where I did a keynote.  I prefer the warm weather
TeresaD: me too, curt
DafneG: if you go to the web page I gave you have the link tothe yahoo group, Susana
DafneG: http://www.oocities.org/bawebhead/index.html
SusanneN: Yes,  Micke, Daf and Teresa together have reactivated me, to as a co-moderator
SusanaT: thanks
VanceS: Are you familiar with the EVOnline sessions, Curt?
TeresaD: thanks, sus. very sweet of you  :-)
SusanEB: I am from Chicago and the winter's bad there ,too
SusanneN: Do you have much snow in INdiana, Curt?
VanceS: or with Webheads in Action and its offshoots?
DafneG: Vance I have updated your pic in the chatsessions page :-)
CurtB: Not really Vance
SusanneN: we have spring flowers in Denmark coming up now, very mild climate
ButhainaA: I checked the work at BaW , it's amazing, I'll participate asap Daf and the BaW team
ButhainaA: sorry brb
CurtB: lots of snow here!!!
DafneG: thanks Buth :-)
SusanEB: what's the difference between TI and YM??
SusanneN: Dear Buth, hello hello
VanceS: Well, in a nutshell, Maggi and Michael and I started Writing for Webheads in 1998
SusanneN: TI is Tapped IN, and YM is Yahoo Messenger
CurtB: not typical; usually it melts fast; but we are very cold lately
TeresaD: curt, becoming a webhead is a 6 week session and one of our objectives is to bring 'new blood' into the main webheads group
RobertWB left the room (signed off).
VanceS: It gathered teachers who formed their own group Webheads in Action in 2002
SusanneN: the two has nothing in common, except for  chat
VanceS: Now this year Dafne and Teresa and others are running a session called Becoming a Webhead
AndrewP: SusaneEB: where do you work in Chicago?  I'm at City Colleges of Chicago
DafneG: we are part of that group from 2002
SusanEB: don't know TI yet
VanceS: its for newcomers to the community building techniques we have used with webheads
CurtB: I see
SusanneN: The "others" are Maria Jordano from Spain, and little me, Vance
DafneG: you should have taken the tour SusanEB
MichaelMa: you are in T1 now Susan
RobertWB joined the room.
VanceS . o O ( thanks Sus )
TeresaD: wb, bob
SusanneN: and we have such ain active bunch of participants
DafneG: wb bob
RobertWB: Im back.
DafneG: glad to see you back, bob :-)
VanceS: there is a lot of energy in this group
SusanEB: I know the schoo, but I've been living in Florence, Italy since 78 teaching -
VanceS: Michael and Elizabeth have started the REO group which meets in half an hour
SusanEB: I love Chicago
VanceS: that's for development of video in language learning
RobertWB: Where does the REO group meet?
DafneG: most REO's are also webheads
ElizabethH: And our newbies will be arriving in about 1/2 hr, so maybe we should move with Curt to Vance's office?
ClaireB left the room (signed off).
ElizabethH: The REO group will meet in my office, Comp_for_Ed at the hour.
VanceS: yes, that's right, there is a lot of overlap in a dozen communities we have formed or participate in
AndrewP: are we leaving the Reception Room now for Vance's office?
SusanneN: Vance, like you expressed yesterday, our BAW workshop and other activities are happening because of all teh great work anc collaboration that you have scaffolded
RobertWB: Thanks, Eliz...I will try to be there..
OlgaP left the room (signed off).
ButhainaA: Oh, hi, Sus..you guys are doing great at BaW..really facinating..
OlgaP joined the room.
MichaelAC: I agree with Buth
ButhainaA: Elizabeth , good to mmet you here..
SusanaT: Elizabeth .. where is your office?
VanceS: we scaffold each other
OlgaP left the room (signed off).
ClaireB joined the room.
TeresaD: hi buth. nice to see you here again  :-)
DafneG: Micahel gave a wonderful presentation this week
OlgaP joined the room.
TeresaD: he sure did
MichaelAC blushes
VanceS: Curt has written a seminal piece on that aspect of blended learning
ButhainaA: Same here, Tere..
RobertWB left the room.
DafneG: 27 people at YM with voice and PPT
ElizabethH: My office is Comp_for_Ed  Just type "/enter Comp_for_Ed" (without the " ")
TeresaD: everything is up on a page we created
VanceS: yes we also meet each other for our respective presentations online
SusanneN: did you ever see one of those fragile but strong and flexible bamboo scaffolds they use for modern tower buildings in China?
MichaelAC: In pictures
TeresaD: it was a first time experience for us, moderators, with so many people
SusanaT: ok thanks I'll try
ButhainaA: I spent sometime last night checking work and messages at BaW , and found everything impressive..
DafneG: the comments from participants have been very rewarding
VanceS: Curt, would you like to tell us why you became interested in visiting us today?
ButhainaA: I like the Bpages blogs, so cool
SusanneN: Yes, and a very mixed-up and informal blended learning is what is taking place here, I would say
ElizabethH: Curt--tell us something about your research with different language groups and e-learning.
MichaelAC: like Chinese bamboo?
MichaelMa: Yes Curt, don't be shy!
SusanaT: Yes, there's a lot of interest and work
SusanneN listens to our guest of honor, mr Curt Bonker
CurtB: Yes, Vance, we just got approval for a ne edited book on Blended Learning to be published by Pfeiifer Publsihing/Jossey bass/Wiley
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VanceS wonders about the connection between this book and the questions just asked
CurtB: Actually, truth be told, Vance invited me in in September and when I went to delete old email last week, I was reminded of his request
MargaretD: what exactly IS blended learning?
SusanneN: Curt, we have missed you around :-)
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VanceS: Curt has an excellent presentation on blended learning
VanceS: it's a powerpoint blender ... you tell it Curt ...
CurtB: many of my talks are posted to trainingshare.com
TeresaD: mixed: online with f2f, maggi
CurtB: Blended learning can mean many things
SusanneN: spring cleaning of mail boxes can reveal some dead ends :-)
CurtB: for one, it means combining face to face learning with online
ButhainaA: We heard lots of good things about you Curt and eager to listen directly from you here now
CurtB: for another it is combining sync technology like this one with async ones
CurtB: for another it is combining instructors around the planet
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SusanneN: so our Webheads practices is very blending
CurtB: or students at diff locations
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DafneG: I attended an interesting chat with Curt at the Networking2002 conference
SusanneN: even more blend
CurtB: or combining behavioral and constructivist tasks; etc
VanceS: Sus has a great term for this blending: Chaos Navigation
SusanneN: Yes Daf  and so di I!
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CurtB: yes I guess so Susanne
CurtB: well, all learning could be considered blended
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TeresaD: vance, i have always thought that chaos navigation is what happens here at ti with all the cross-threads
VanceS: behavioral with constructivist, that's an interesting concept
TeresaD: it sure is
ButhainaA: I like the term used to describe integrating or as you said, Curt, blending f-2-f with online activities or learning..
CurtB: what happened is that vendors were not selling folks on fully online learning so they created this term blended learning to sell us more stuff (junk)
ElizabethH: We've been having a sidebar discussion on constructivism in Webheads main group--tell us how it combines with behavioralism, Curt?
CurtB: In higher ed Linda Harrison used to call this a Mixed model of learning
ButhainaA: Yes, Vance, I was wondering, specially after your comment on Behaviorists lately..wonder how it works..
CurtB: in the miliatary it is called hybrid learning
SusanaT: here, f2f and online is being used in corporate training ... I did not know about the other "entries"
ElizabethH: "It" meaning con-beh or tech-paper?
CurtB: my state of e-learning in corporate training paper is at PublicationShare.com SusanaT
SusanaT: thanks Curt
SusanneN: Chaos navigation could be seen as a state of mind - to get the feeling of what is needed for this kind of learning together  - taking the technical issues as an extra incitament for professional development and  not to fear disorder and be prepared for the unexpected, still with some background organization structures of time and context
CurtB: I am now working on papers on the future of e-learning in higher ed and also in corporate traiining
ElizabethH: Curt--could you give the full address for the sites so they are clickable?
SusanneN: there is a big world of potential learners out there
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CurtB: http://www.publicationshare.com/
ButhainaA: Yes, Curt, but needed a password to actually visit sections of that webpage: PublicationShare.com
CurtB: http://www.trainingshare.com/workshop.php
CurtB: You have to believe the power of sharing
AttureGst7: Hello!
CurtB: no passwords needed
TeresaD: we do, curt
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CurtB: really?
DafneG: lol
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TeresaD: that's been a basic ingredient in our 2-year experience, curt
CurtB: what is that Teresa?
SusanEsn: sorry, but have to leave now and go to my off. will try to connect from there.
SusanEsn: bye to all of you
VanceS: ok cya Susan
DafneG: we would have not learned had it not been because of our sharing coordinator and colleagues, now friends
SusanneN: The power of sharing has helped us keep up the steam, we're investing hundres of hours of work in this Webheading business that is  characterized as a non-profit and very loosely structured organization
ButhainaA: looks like sharing is scaring !! LOL
SusanaT: bye SusanE
SusanEsn: bye
TeresaD: sharing has been a key ingredient in the webheads experience, curt. if i got you right
VanceS: Susan, btw, I put your pic int the files area
SusanneN: sharing is also caring Buth
ButhainaA: c ya dear Sus
VanceS: the one I mentioned that Ismail did
ButhainaA: oh, sorry not Sus, Susan
SusanneN: I'm Sus N
SusanneN: and I'm gonna stay right here with you
CurtB: I see SusanneN (I was referring to my 8 "share" sites which you can all find at http://courseshare.com/
SusanEsn: how could you do this vance? is it a nice picturre??
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SusanEsn: i was waiting until i find a nice picture to upload!!
DafneG: we have so many Susans today
SusanaT: ;-)
SusanneN: I  see, Curt, the mane Share is taken :-)
SusanneN: name
DafneG: your pic is already on the web page, SuanEsn
SusanEsn: well, this one is about to leave
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SusanneN: we miss our good old icons!
SusanEB: I came back from lunch, what's up?
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CurtB: any questions about blended learning or e-learning for me?
ButhainaA: Yup, Sus , the point now is that people started to understand that sahring really means caring, whereas in the 80s in particular, i think, people looked at it as sacring..
SusanneN: in the old TI we cound easoily know which Sus was who
SusanEsn: oh god, i will have to go see it. i hope it is not awful!!
SusanaT: trying to see the sites first... thanks Curt
ButhainaA: but so glad that we are sharing with confidence and pride
SusanneN: Curt, you also had some intersting ideas about role taking in online learning
DafneG: the one you uploaded to the YG, SusanEsn
SusanneN: could you say something inspiring about taking and giving roles in an line class?
ImreSz: Hello from Hungary
DafneG: hi Imre
TeresaD: hello from portugal, imre
MariaGst1: Hi ImreSz
VanceS: is anyone participating in Nigel's theater group?
CurtB: Yes, SusanneN, you can find a list of those 28 roles in ResourceShare at http://www.trainingshare.com/resources/
SusanneN: Hello Imre. I'm Sus in Denmark, We're having a guest from Indiana, Curt Bonk
SusanEB: what about today's tour????????????????????????
VanceS: because it seems to me that dialog in Tapped In would be a good place for people to take on roles and act them out
CurtB: I have my students now enter into WebCT or Blackboard as some famous person we read about during the semester
MariaGst1: Curt, can you tell me something more about blended learning?
SusanneN to SusanEB you missed the tour but there atre tours on the TI calendar every week.
ButhainaA: I might participate , Vance, but don't know if Nigel agrees as I'm so behind
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CurtB: I enrolle BF Skinner, Pavlov, etc., into my class and the last 2 weeks they can be that person (I call this taking on the personality of a scholar)
RamanaRaoM: hi all ..I am Ramana from India, iam a teacher..nice to meet u.
SusanaT: very funny
TeresaD: welcome, ramana
RamanaRaoM: ty teresa..and susana
ElizabethH: People from REO are now entering. I strongly suggest that Curt and Vance's group move to V's office.
SusanaT: Hi !
JuanaB: Hi everybody.I? m Juani from Chile
MariaGst1: Nice to meet you Ramana
VanceS: ok, let's go there then
SusanneN: Curt, that sounds like a great idea; how do your students react to role taking this way?
DafneG hugs Juani
TeresaD: welcome, juani. long time no see
RamanaRaoM: me too maria
ButhainaA: welcome Raman, I am buthaina or Buth from Kuwait
MariaGst1: Hi Juana
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CurtB: In another role play, I have my students take on one of 28 roles (questioner, commentator, devil's advocate, sage, etc.)
ElizabethH: Mike--could you stay here and direct traffic, and I will go to my office?
CurtB: You want to move vance?
RamanaRaoM: hi mike..
AndrewP: Vance, give us the correct name of your office so we can jump there
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SusanneN: Yes, Vance is already in his office
CurtB: which is where?
ElizabethH: Those who are in WaB, please type "/join VanceS"
AidenY: hello there
TeresaD: is there a need to go to vance's office since the two other groups have their places set up?
ImreSz: Let me have a question, who is interested in a project called ICT toolkit for ESL teachers.
ButhainaA: Elizabeth , are we to go to your office?
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VanceS: ok success
CurtB: yes
VanceS tries to beam up more people
AndrewP: less chaos here 8-)
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CurtB: Ok, as I was saying, I have a number of online role play activities that I try
CurtB: some are more for personality traits and some are for actual people
MichaelAC: Do you do any of these synchronously?
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AndrewP: Curt I see you are not too far away from the Illinois border.  One day we'll have to meet up somewhere.  I'll be inSprngfield IL this week in meetings with the state.
CurtB: I have even had online seances of long since dead psychologists in my learning theory class
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VanceS: we could all try holding hands now
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MichaelAC: I guess that's a synch event then!
CurtB: Andy--I will be in Chicago in October for the AECT conference with my grad students at http://www.aect.org/events/Chicago04/call/default.asp
ButhainaA: Yes we could, Vance :)
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CurtB: And I will be in Wisconsin in May (madison)
AndrewP: I'll be at the Madison conference too
VanceS: I'm not sure who is holding my hand but I'm feeling something very ethereal
TeresaD: nice to see you here, aiden
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ButhainaA: oh, hi Andy, long time no see :)
AidenY: thanks Tere, great to be back
AndrewP: Hi Aiden it's been a while, how's your new apartment
CurtB: yes MichaelAC, that would be sync event (to do a seance) but it could be async
AndrewP: Hi Buth
ButhainaA: Hi Aiden
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VanceS: what's the next tep in the seance?
AndrewP: I
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MichaelAC: Syycn event in text or voice otr both?
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CurtB: text is all I have used
AndrewP: Buth I've been viewing all your photos of Cairo, very nice time you all had there
VanceS: I have a question for Curt.  How would you manage a chat like this one?
CurtB: we all read old books and then quote from them after a problem is assigned by the moderator
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ButhainaA: thanks, Andy and yes we did have a great time
SusanneN: Oh, much more quiet in here
CurtB: so you might use a quote from someone like John Dewey from 1904 to solve a problem of 2004
SusanneN: we had a lot of chaos downstairs
VanceS: If you would like to try any techniques on us now, feel free
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CurtB: summarize key pts
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SusanneN: Curt, using quotations does not solve problems but night shed some new light on them ...
ButhainaA: I agree Curt..Dewy is great on wasting time issues..and i support his approach
CurtB: and relate to previous chats with someone else, Vance
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VanceS: sorry, curt, meaning ... ?
FernandaR: this is really chaos today ... I managed to be in 3 different rooms ... :))
RobertWB: Am I in the right place?
DafneG: yes, bob
VanceS: I think so Bob
CurtB: having them quote from Dewey or Wundt or Vygotsky (or whatever your content area is) gets them to learn the material in a different way
RobertWB: tx
MargaretD: I think the problem is one of focus
MariaGst1: At last I found Vance's office...have I?
CurtB: Hi maria!
DafneG: yes, Maria
ButhainaA: oh, got you Curt, wow quite interesting
MariaGst1: thanks
ButhainaA: hi Maria
SusanneN: Ok, NOW I got your idea, sorry, Curt!
CurtB: sounds good Buthaina
MariaGst1: Hi  Buthaina
ButhainaA: and what about adding some from Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Curt?
SusanneN: I was away and forgot about your idea of role taking
MichaelAC thanks Curt for dropping in and quietly bids everyone farewell. It's bed time down under.
TeresaD: but that could also be achieved f2f, couldn't it, curt? however, the audience can be much bigger online and the potential is bigger, too
CurtB: yes, and then you can invite people from other places to play roles of those my students have not selected
SusanneN: Characters could even disagree in their discussions, I suppose
CurtB: Goodbye Michael
CurtB: hope to get there someday
AndrewP: bye Michael we will be in touch by email this coming week
ButhainaA: But you are talking about teachers as students, Curt, what about us EFL teachers, any suggestions, Curt?
ButhainaA: Bye Michael
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DafneG: hi Josefin
JosefinB: hello!
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CurtB: It would perhaps work similarly with EFL
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TeresaD: yes, curt
CurtB: but role play is just one of 100 things you can do online
VanceS: michael, want to stay for abrief word at alado?
RobertWB: Im not sure, I know what the question is.
ButhainaA: How? dialogues from movies ?
RobertWB: Yes, say something about alado
TeresaD: i agree, curt, though i don't know 100  :-)
ButhainaA: oh, great, Michael
AndrewP: Vance, no one is in alado.net/webheads now
SusanneN: In EFL I think that students may become less intimidated by using the inline chat insetad of  presence
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VanceS: I just asked Curt in an aside if he'd like to try it, so those who want can go there
CurtB: I sometimes bring in a guest for sync chat with my students and enter into the system multiple times so I can be myself and other people.  Last time I was Sir Edmund Hillary, Mother Teresa, Q from Star Trek, etc., and they had not clue
RobertWB: Perhaps, someone ought to post a list of 100 things, Teresa.
VanceS: as well as stay here
VanceS: I presume you are there, Andy?
DafneG: I think that when language is taught trough content there are many more possibilities to design motivating and relevant activities online
AndrewP: I"m monitoring all the portals from a master control panel and can see who is present in each portal
VanceS: I've come is as my own alter ego
MariaGst1: I must leave you now. It's been my first TI experience and I enjoyed it, although it's been a little confusing to follow all the threads... Bye
AndrewP: no one is in alado.net/webheads now
CurtB: well, you can read newsletters from that language and have activities wrapped around it
SusanneN: Are we moving to Alado now?
VanceS: it gets easier as you get used to it Maria
VanceS: hope to see you again
CurtB: you can have an online Web log or Blog where you practice that language
DafneG: bye Maria
FernandaR: bye, Maria
RobertWB: Bye Maria.
MariaGst1: I hope so. Bye!
TeresaD: glad you made it, maria/conceicao
PeterSi: What IS Alado, folks?
CurtB: you can have role play of characters from literature of that language
VanceS: if you'd like to see Alado, it's at http://www.alado.com/webheads
MariaGst1: Bye Teresa!
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DafneG: Andy is giving us a tour to Alado next week
SusanneN: Peter, sorry! Aoado is a voice portal, you can listen and text chat and if you have a microphone you can also let us hear your nice voice
PeterSi: THanks
JuanaB: Hi.finally I? m here
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CurtB: you can have students work with others from another country such as in epals
DafneG: hi Juani, wb
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PeterSi: But I haven't got a mic and I'm also not in Alado
TeresaD: i've done that on three diff iccasions, curt
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PeterSi: but would be great
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VanceS: is there an article you have where you list these 100 things to do onlne?
AidenY: we can do a lot with role play, Curt, the idea of students being teachers is a good one, as a matter of fact, Arnold and I did something like this last year
CurtB: I created a list of online mentoring resources once; some of these links might prove useful for cross cultural collaboration in an EFL program http://www.indiana.edu/~tickit/resourcecenter/resource3.htm
AidenY: and I'm planning to do it again for my Advanced EFL students
CurtB: sounds good Teresa
TeresaD: you can count on me, if necessary, aiden  :-)
CurtB: did it work
JuanaB: that will be helpful for me,too Aiden.
VanceS: do you have a URL for that Aiden?
AidenY: perhaps Webheads here remember Arnold's TPR
TeresaD: it did. but it was thru email
TeresaD: i do, aiden
AidenY: that
AidenY: that's the one
TeresaD: it worked quite well, curt
CurtB: great!
VanceS: Aiden is in Taiwan.  She has done neat things with students collaborating with webheads
TeresaD: i have three projects online
CurtB: please describe briefly teresa.  And where are you again?
AidenY: now I'm thinking of webcasting each student/group presentation
DafneG: We have had many experiences sharing with students all over the globe and the experiences have been very successful
TeresaD: in portugal
VanceS: one thing was to get them to listen to one of michaels songs and then discuss it with michael
ButhainaA: Me too, Aiden
VanceS: (from Austrlia)
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DafneG: wb, Andy
TeresaD: i had a class carry out a well laid out plan with classes in florida
CurtB: Sounds great Dafne; what age groups?  What locations?
AidenY: oopps, I apologize for not introducing myself, my name's Aiden, an instructor of EFL here in Taiwan
ButhainaA: Aiden, has a wonderful way of reaching her students through web projects
AidenY: but thanks for dear webheads, they already did that for me
RobertWB: Id like to know more about webcasting.
TeresaD: the third was with a class in brazil in 2000 to celebrate the 500 years of the discovery of brazil by the portuguese
CurtB: that is cool Teresa!
JuanaB: I have had a  Projects with Aiden? students and through epals.com ,too.
JuanaB: That sounds very interesting Teresa
CurtB: Hi Aiden; I have an EFL instructor in my online learning theories class now from Taiwan named Eric Vognild
TeresaD: curt, go to my hpage and click on projects, pls
TeresaD: http://www.malhatlantica.pt/teresadeca/
AidenY: but I'm still searching for other new ways to make my class interesting and not just a boring listening class
CurtB: thanks Teresa
TeresaD: this began back in 1997-98
TeresaD: welcome, curt
AidenY: i'll be looking at your site Curt and if ever I do have questions, how can I get in touch with you?
CurtB: our stuff began in 1998 too
FernandaR: I also would like to get my students in touch with any of you or your students
VanceS: we have Andy, Buth, Susanne, and me in Alado rightnow
AidenY: curt have you signed in eveonline_webheads' yahoogroups or becoming a webhead YG?
JuanaB: I think it i s the best way for them to learn if you have the resources at school.
CurtB: impressive projects and vitae Teresa!
CurtB: No I  have not Aiden
AidenY: I'm interested in giving students tasks where they use English in their presentations
TeresaD: thank you, curt  :-)
PeterSi: How do you do a project with one computer per class?
JuanaB: Teresa,it looks beautiful and it must work perfectly.I?l try it again later
PeterSi smiles
AidenY: I use a projector Peter
DafneG: that's what I do, Aiden, but I teach content-based
TeresaD: yes, juani
AidenY: yes, of course, Daf, topics are important too :-)
CurtB: There is a book from ISTE (International Society of Technology in Education) called the One Computer Classroom Peter
PeterSi: Yes, and who makes the decisions among a class of 50 or more:)
VanceS: where do you teach with 50 in a class?
AidenY: good qwuestion, Pete, speacially for large class
DafneG: try group work, Peter
PeterSi: thanks, will try, how do I get that book in CHina?
TeresaD: not easy, peter, but they can take turns at the computer, for example
CurtB: you can have peers rate and decide Peter
JuanaB: yes,I have 45-48 in one class,also.It? s difficult to teach,even in groups
AidenY: use a webcam, take turns in every presentation
AidenY: so group 1 may present this week, grp 2 next, so on and so forth
VanceS: there is a webhead named Yaodong in Liuzhou
VanceS: do you know him Peter?
PeterSi: Sorry, no
VanceS: he does neat things with a one-computer classroom
PeterSi: would be glad
VanceS: he frequently interrupts my work to have me talk to them
PeterSi: without a camera too
AidenY: the only problem with that, Peter is maintaining the interest of those who aren't presenting
VanceS: he goes into riddle moos and gets me to help him with the answers while hs studnets try to solve them
PeterSi: exactly
CurtB: trying to find that book for you.  not found yet; ISTE is at http://www.iste.org/
SusanneN: Yaodong, I nave not seen him around this year
ButhainaA: Aiden, your project seems interesting..is there a way webheades can attend..?
PeterSi: good for a start, thanks
AidenY: do you mean TPR, Buth?
ButhainaA: the one of your Ss presenting using web cam, Aiden , sorry don't know waht you call it
AidenY: so long as you have a projector Peter, that would be a good start
PeterSi: I ido
JuanaB: yes,I also want to know more about it Aiden
VanceS: web cams are very inexpensive
VanceS: would anyone else like to join us at alado? http://www.alado.net/webheads
PeterSi: but wonder how I can put software for things put on in the class computer
VanceS: or is anyone having trouble with it?  Claire has joined us as well
PeterSi: but that's my problem sure
AidenY: that's what I intend to do about the TPR2 preoject which I still have to talk to arnold about
TeresaD: i'd prefer to keep the conversation going here, vance. it's been so interesting
SusanneN: Vance , how many particpants can Alado take today, moe than ten?
SusanneN: remember, it is for Windows user sonly!
VanceS: andy just offered to boost it.  There are 5 there now
ButhainaA: Aiden, you know you've lawyas an inspiration to me, this would be a great way to have Ss purchase web cams, indirectly.
CurtB: ok, go to Google and type" One computer classroom" and many web pages show up with hundreds of strategies such as this one http://danenet.wicip.org/mmsd-it/tlc/1comprm.html
AidenY: Peter, in my case, I always have a topic where my students talk about or present
VanceS: is this an internet connected 1-c classroom?
CurtB: you might take a reverse view and see how having just one computer is so much better than everyone having one
AidenY: we have computers in the lab but you might find this interesting, I'm now opting for a one computer proejct
TeresaD: right, curt. see the positive side of it
JuanaB: I opened Alado,Vance but I can? t log in
DafneG: Arnold has done a great job getting the appendixes of my dissertation on a CD, a beautiful page, Aiden
AidenY: due to bandwidth problems
VanceS: Juani, do you see 'login information' ?
PeterSi: I also tend to agree with the one comp idea, they concentrate on one things
CurtB: yes, the focus you can have.  the planning that students learn, they have to summarize rather than go on and on
VanceS: or ys there can be a firewall issue
VanceS: or a java one
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SusanneN: summarizing  can be a great help for reflections
AidenY: in my case, it has always been the bandwidth
AidenY: so having 30 computers in the lab seem really useles
RobertWB: I cant seem to get in at Alado.  I dont think I have been there before,b ut I dont see a place to register.
VanceS: you clikc on Login Information first
AidenY: great Daf, I'd love to see that one
VanceS: Juani got in btw
SusanneN nods to Daf, that was great work and slimming the paper load
VanceS: Curt have you encountered any otehr groups like this one in your cyber travels?
AidenY: speaking of role play, my 3rd year uni students did a great job last semester, insteasd of presenting the play in class, the videotaped the whole thing, so it was like watching a tele-drama of some sort
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CurtB: here is a One Computer Classroom book from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1578096812/102-9996182-4894544?v=glance
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CurtB: well, Vance, they tend to be fleeting or short term groups
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CurtB: grant related
ClaireB: finally!
CurtB: conference related
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AidenY: I'll be saving this chat, got really neat titles to remember (and buy, that's the 'ouch' part)
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VanceS: we have records of this one dating back to Sept 1998 but we were meeting before that
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SusanneN: Aide, I just loved to see how your students were doing in their video presentations, so well ppreared; they really took their job seriously and yet had obvious fun going on!
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CurtB: so there is a dissertation or 2 in here somewhere
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VanceS: there have been a couple already
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AidenY: yes, it was really funny, Sus
ButhainaA: I'm looking at  that page Curt on the one computer class, it's the first time I hear of this kind of classes..
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DafneG: yes, that was a great project, Aiden, like all of yours :-)
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SusanneN: Fianny you managed it Claire!
VanceS returns claire's hug
AidenY: remember the day I told you I forgot that my class was re-scheduled
AidenY: that was the one
SusanEsn: they exist in egypt, buth
VanceS: Claire and I have been watching each other on web cam all this time
DafneG: finally here Claire :-)
ButhainaA: but what does it mean? using a one computer literally in a class. sorry didn't get it ?
CurtB: great, as I said Buthaina, there are many more sites you can find in a Google search and lots of advice on that
TeresaD: curt, this page will give you quite a good idea of webheads activities
TeresaD: http://www.malhatlantica.pt/teresadeca/webheads/wia-index.htm
AidenY: Buth, it's either the teacher does not have technical resources or in my case, I opt to use one
DafneG: Sus, Elizabeth, Mike and I worked on a collaborative video-chat project with students in Venezuela http://dafnegon.tripod.com/videochat/videochat-unit.htm
SusanEsn: sorry, just got in w/out saying, hi to all of you
AidenY: remember the last project I did with Michael, Vance and Daf,
TeresaD: i need to update it with vance's work in cairo
AidenY: many of them were frustrated because they could not hear or soemtimes be heard
CurtB: thanks Teresa!  so Webheads is a community!
ButhainaA: Yes, Aiden
DafneG: yes, but the text chat was there for them to communicate
AidenY: they ended up typing instead of 'talking' using their voice
CurtB: What makes for a community online?
TeresaD: no doubt in my mind, curt
CurtB: Rituals like this chat is one thing
ButhainaA: Sure Curt
VanceS: Tere, buth has done a great job on the cairo activities
VanceS: have you got any urls you can paste here buth?
PeterSi: for ex if I thank you for your tips and help
SusanneN: We're engaged in real life activities together Curt
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AidenY: where the emphasis is to let them speak
CurtB: Membership or indentity is another--are there Webhead t-shirts?
SusanneN: lol
DafneG: yes, and collaborative projects too, Curt
TeresaD: yes, vance, i just need the time to update verything. congrats, buth :-)
CurtB: A shared history is another principle like your site you just shared
SusanneN: no, but  Webehads pages
AidenY: good idead Curt
AidenY: idea
SusanneN: no merchandise
CurtB: right Dafne--shared or collaborative projects
AidenY: perhpas we should start
AidenY: now that we have a logo
DafneG: we document our f2f encounters
SusanneN: we have so  many shared war stories, or peace narratives
CurtB: we have done some research on this; perhaps one of my students should look at Webheads
FernandaR: do we have a logo? where? have I missed that?
VanceS: that is important, I kept up docs for years but the really NEAT thing is ...
ButhainaA: hope you don't mind this one Vance: http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_dancing_cairo_jan2304.htm
VanceS: when I flagged, others took the torch
DafneG: one of our participants at BaW has written a paper about Webheads
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TeresaD: the index page has a lot to look into, curt.
AidenY: Curt, some folks have done PhD theses about webheads
SusanneN: your students can also read all those papers that have accompanied teh trajectories of Webheads in Action
VanceS: I've heard that Curt is a dancer so maybe he can show us his dance web pages
CurtB: respect, trust, shared knowledge (that is a biggie), rituals, a purpose, indentity, giving as well as getting from the community, celebrating accomplishments, etc.
ButhainaA: yes, please, Curt
SusanneN: Dafne has just turned HER PhD in
DafneG: some of us are dancers here, too, Curt
TeresaD: we've done (and do) all that, curt
AidenY: really, here's another good idea, Curt do you think it's possible to teach dance steps online?
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VanceS: we did a study of ourselves as a CoP last year
AidenY: i'm interested (for my students, but I can do some cha=-cha and boogie)
VanceS: you could write out the steps in LOGO
TeresaD: and we still need chris' verdict, vance!
SusanneN jumsp up  & down like she was dancing
ButhainaA: some serious stuff, Vance, maybe: http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm
CurtB: those are some principles.  I have an chapter in press on this if anyone writes to me, I will send to them cjbonk@indiana.edu (half of chapter is on higher ed and half on training environments
SusanneN: I just loved Vance's  online dancing lesson!!
CurtB: ok, Buthaina, I will mention it sometime
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VanceS: you'll get 15 emails (the number of people in this room)
ButhainaA: thanks, Curt
DafneG: lol
CurtB: good job Dafne!
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DafneG: thanks
ButhainaA: duplicate mine
VanceS: Dafne besides handing in her Dis (claps) has done some amazing work online
ButhainaA: hehehe
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CurtB: Aiden, I see where there was an online fashion show and also music (the chelo) being taught online recently as pointed out in the June Chronicle of HIgher education.  So dancing is next
ButhainaA: Hi Maggie and wb
DafneG blushes
AidenY: well Curt, do you think it's possioble?
VanceS: We have tried guitar jams online
CurtB: Ok, Vance, so you did a study.  Where is the report?
AidenY: perhpas we should start, Curt
VanceS: momentito
TeresaD: and halloween parties, vance
SusanneN: and cooking lessons
AidenY: nor for one smester but just a porject that will run for 2 meetings
AidenY: not
VanceS: these links: http://www.oocities.org/vance_stevens/papers/tesol/baltimore2003/copractice.html#workshop
VanceS: from here I mean
ButhainaA: this one when we were at the ELFs': http://alothman-b.tripod.com/buth_vance_cairo04.htm
CurtB: yes, Aiden
VanceS: we did an online workshop and a colloquieum at TESOL
VanceS: we didn't produce a paper per se but a body of reflections
VanceS: in web pages
SusanneN: some people  in robotics work with translating real movements into digital commands, and even make music from these  inputs
PeterSi: I'm amazed you just click in a site URL - how do I get it, I''m from the stone age I spose
AidenY: yes, you're interested in doing a project? is that a 'YES"
CurtB: oh yes, I remember the one from Cario Vance
AidenY smiles at Peter
ButhainaA: more stuff on our TESOL2003: http://alothman-b.tripod.com/tesol_wia-03.htm
ButhainaA: have a look , please Curt
SusanneN: Peter, type it and you will see how it turns into an active clickable URL
DafneG: more reports on dancing: http://www.oocities.org/dygonza/fallas2.html
VanceS: to click in a url, you visit the site in another browswer windo
CurtB: sure always interested in new topics
SusanneN: YES, aiden
VanceS: then copy its url from the browser and paste it here
PeterSi: That's fine but how does it stay with me, how do I store it
PeterSi: ?
DafneG: save it to "favorites"
SusanneN: save it in your brwoser bookmark
VanceS: as a tapped in member you will get a copy in email of this transcript
AidenY: great stuff, Daf
VanceS: you can retrieve the urls at your leisure
ButhainaA: and this URL shows, the bomb Vance exploded , elegantly: http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_auc_jan2104.htm
PeterSi: If I want to copy, it wants to take me there, no copy option for me, I haven't ever managed, why?
SusanneN: but you can also freeze the text chat intopthe pasteboard from  the actions meny, Peter
ButhainaA: I mean , his Keynote presentation at the AUC
VanceS: the bomb I exploded??
SusanneN: you cannot copy direct from teh text chat for some reason
AidenY: now we can do international dances
ButhainaA: Peter, I have the same problem
ButhainaA: You nee to choose the pasteboard
ButhainaA: and from there copy any URL you want
PeterSi: Thanks Buth, how do I freeze the text chat?
MargaretD: use the ctrl + c keys instead Peter
VanceS: these are great pages
VanceS: Buth is a prime example of community support
SusanneN: Maggi, you cannot cpoy diredct from teh text chat window
DafneG: in the actions drop down menu select "send to pasteboard", Peter
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SusanneN: Hello Fiona
DafneG: hi Fiona
TeresaD: welcome, fiona
MargaretD: no, I meant to put urls in
VanceS welcomes Fiona
FionaL: hello
ButhainaA: yes, Vance, I mean your statement on "there is no thing such as a teacher, there rae learners only..sorry if i didn't quite you accurately..
DafneG: how's Caracas?
AidenY: so it's possible that I ask my students to 1) engagve in a voice/text chat with you Daf, show the Fallas pages, teach them the dance steps; 2) students present in class and webcasted-presenting their chosen itnernational or local dance steps to be shared with webheads
CurtB: I think anyone would be interested in the Webheads story and how they are a great example of a community of practice (COP)
SusanneN smiles to Maggi, that explains it
VanceS: ah, a small firecracker
TeresaD: thanks, curt. that's very nice
ButhainaA: and forgot to tell you, Kuwait TV repeated what you said in anindication to the new trend in the learning and texhing approcahes of the 21st Century
VanceS: there are no language teachers, only language learners
PeterSi: What do I send if it instantly starts loading the page and never gets there - page cannot be shown
SusanneN: Christopher Johnson's study about WIA is closely related to the CoP theory. it is in the final stage by a cybergirl came into the way
CurtB: yes, Buthaina, there are only teachers when students feel they are needed.
AidenY: Curt any dance steps that you'd like to do?
VanceS: when the student is ready the teacher appears
DafneG: my dissertation is not about webheads but it is due to webheads
SusanneN agree with Vance,  and the use of computers help us understand that we do need to stay learners all the time!
FernandaR: I'm trying to convince my students of that, Vance
RobertWB: Or, maybe we are all, both teachers and students, just collaborators.
ButhainaA: yes, Curt, and this what happens with Webheads too..the experts are always there when novices like me are ready
CurtB: I will have to see what interests my doc students Aiden (or do you have funding?)
AndrewP: Curt this is mostly pro bono work for all of us
AndrewP: although there is occassional funding
DafneG: we work with free web tools
VanceS: novice is a relative term and Buth is becoming too advanced for that status
AidenY: funding? Christ, no! (sorry) but no, i don't get any fundings from my school
DafneG: and the kindness of some people like Andy
SusanneN: yes, we're doing this for our pleasure!!
MargaretD: nobody gets rich teaching
AidenY: we do it all for FREE :-)
TeresaD: and improvement, sus
CurtB: yes, me too (I had indexed some free K-12 resources once but some of these are no longer free: http://www.indiana.edu/~tickit/resourcecenter/resource1.htm)
VanceS: actually, that's a good point, I'm often asked where Webheads gets its funing
ButhainaA: Fernanda, I was so happy last semester that i managed to convince my Ss at last..especially after I came back from Abu DFahbi,meeting michael and Vance thereon GLD..i told them I've just learned and will practice it with you while you are learning it
TeresaD: we sure do, aiden. but with pleasure and lots of fun
DafneG: we receive and give
AidenY: which reminds me, I still owe Andy
SusanneN: oh yes, Teresa, my pleasure, your improvement :-))
TeresaD: it's a give and take, daf
VanceS: funding .. there is none, none needed
AndrewP: this is one of the longest online CoP around thanks to the dedication of the many commited people and Vance's cat herding instincts
ButhainaA: I mean , uisng alado, where they manged to present online, lately
TeresaD: and your improvement too, sus
SusanneN looks pretty ambitions with a mask of playful child
VanceS: not to mention the support of can-do people like Andy
SusanneN: thank you sfore, I'm doing my best to improve and improvise
AndrewP: forget about it Aiden it was a small thing to do for your class
CurtB: I have a free online survey tool called SurveyShare http://surveyshare.com/ and I would be happy to make anyone a free Pro user for at least 2 months if asked via email
AidenY sings "For he's jolly good fellow..."
FernandaR: how did you convince your students, Buth? mine are still very passive...
SusanneN: andy, your support has meant a lot for our general improvement opportunities into the era of VoIP
RobertWB: Well, I am impressed with the whole group, I hope someday, I can contribute more.
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ButhainaA: thanks, Vance..I'm trying..but mind you without our CoP my learning process wouldn't as such, i mean with quality
DafneG: wow, that's great Curt, we are always creating online surveys
SusanneN: very neat offer, Curt
DafneG: for our workshops
AidenY: but will there be a way to store the results, Curt?
SusanneN: has anyone used Survey share yet?
FionaL: Can I just ask if it is possible to make the chat box bigger as I am having trouble reading it...or do I just need to get stronger glasses?
PeterSi: Curt, thanks, I'd be interested to learn
VanceS: I'll help fiona off line here
SusanneN: Fiona, yes, find it from the Actions menu
ButhainaA: is your eamil the same as the one on your main site, Curt?
DafneG: go to the actions drop down menu, and click on detach, Fiona
FionaL: thanks
CurtB: sure thing Dafne; I am doing 2 big surveys on the future of online learning with it right now
MargaretD: above right actions Fiona
AidenY: lol, Fiona, upper right, Fiona, click onActions pull down menu. click on larger texts
SusanneN looks at all the helpful hands stretching out to assist Fiona in ten seconds
AidenY: see, more than one voice, Fiona
MargaretD: you can also make the text larger
AndrewP: Finoa, you can go to the top right corner Actions drop down box, and select detach
CurtB: thousands of people have used it Susanne
LeahS: Bye all...thanks for the first listening in at BwH ...have to get up early tomorrow! Thanks
PeterSi: Fiona, after detach, you can make it even bigger if you drag the edges
AidenY: bye Leah
SusanneN: Curt I was asking  teh Webheads, :-)
TeresaD: bye leah! nice week
RobertWB: BUt only two months is free, right CUrt?
VanceS: I think Aiden's question is what happens to the results
SusanneN: but it is great ot learn that so many have already used it
VanceS: or did I miss the answer
CurtB: there is an item bank and over 100 templates to choose from or you can create from a prior survey or from scratch
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SusanneN: se have seen surveys created in Survey monkey and inside the Yahoogroup ,a nd a few others
CurtB: yes Buthaina my email is cjbonk@indiana.edu or cjbonk@surveyshare.com and i have 9 more
DafneG: I would like to try it, we need to create a survey for our last week of the evonline session
FionaL: \THat's much better thanks
SusanneN: Yes, Daf, we do
AndrewP: Well team Webheads, I"m off to make some coffee and have breakfast.  Have a great week, bye to all
TeresaD: good idea, daf
SusanneN: Andy, enjoy the rest of your Sunday
RobertWB: Bye Andrew.
AidenY: bye Andy have a great week
PeterSi: Bye, I may go to sleep soon :)
MargaretD: bye Andy
VanceS: ok, cya andy
TeresaD: bye, andy. we need to keep in touch
DafneG: bye, Andy see you this week at your pres for BaW
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SusanneN: sleep tight Peter
ButhainaA: thanks, Curt
CurtB: Robert, you can be a free user for year but you get less than I will give you as a Pro user; http://surveyshare.com/
JuanaB: bye Andy ,enjoy the day
AidenY: Daf, are you for doing Fallas again?
RobertWB: Ok, I understand, Curt.
PeterSi: Thanks to you all, Bye
AidenY: are you up
CurtB: if 2 months is not enough, just me a nice note
DafneG: yes, Aiden, and maybe Arnold will join us here
AidenY: yes
AidenY: in line with TPR
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AidenY: Arnold's online lecture will have to come in first
CurtB: the Pro users can do more with results than regular free users
RobertWB: I'll explain what I am looking for off line, curt.
AidenY: then Fallas, then Ss presentations
CurtB: you can do crosstabs and use the pie charts, bar charts, etc, and/or download to Excel for that or to a stat package
VanceS: I didn't catch where the results go
ButhainaA: oh, how is Arnold, Daf, we didn't see much of him lately..
DafneG: great, Aiden, sounds like a nice project
AidenY: they're all related
DafneG: he is fine, Buth, busy with different things, will give a pres at our Baw session
AidenY: won't be difficult because you both already have your materials
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RobertWB: Well, somehow, two hours have passed and i too, need to do some other things this morning.
AidenY: probably an update will do but that's about it
DafneG: nice seeing you again, Bob
SusanneN: Yes, we're looking forward to the rest of our presenters in the coming weeks of our workshop!
RobertWB: S o  I am telling you all, I had a great time.
JuanaB: I? m sorry  I missed part of the meeting but I?ll try to see what is on with my connection
RobertWB: See you next week.
AidenY: bye Bob
VanceS: when is my presentation?
SusanneN: bye bob and thanks for all your interesting messages in the workshop!
CurtB: sure Buthaina
TeresaD: bye, bob
DafneG: I enjoyed your posting about WWW2, bob :-)
SusanneN hands Vance a calendar
TeresaD: last week, vance
DafneG: week 6 Vance
VanceS: incidentally, are you following th Blog sessions?
DafneG: March 1
CurtB: bye everyone.  nice to meet you all
VanceS . o O ( this calendar is upside down!) )
CurtB: share the results Dafne!
TeresaD: bye, curt. nice meeting you
DafneG: we will, Curt
TeresaD: and thanks for being here
CurtB: where are you again Dafne?
DafneG: thanks for sharing with us, Curt
SusanneN: http://www.oocities.org/bawebhead/chatsessions.html#W6
DafneG: I am in Spain but from Venezuela
SusanneN: Oh, goodbye Curt. how we will meet you again
CurtB: cool
ButhainaA: Fernanda, i just used Webheads' simple ways of showing things to each other, in addition to a lot of scafolding and support..talked to my Ss in a very democartic way, telling them i'm one of them, in the sense of of that I'm a student too..showed them the webheads and told them about Vance and the other experts how they hellp me like Iwas helping them..
SusanEsn: bye curt, nice meeting you and thanks
CurtB: there is an online learning conference in barcelona sometimes
DafneG: Curt could we use your survey tool?
ButhainaA: this is what I did Fernanda, and you won't believe the smiles that were on their faces ..
SusanneN: Daf, you need to send a requat on email :-))
CurtB: sure Dafne
DafneG: ok, will send the mail :-) thanks
CurtB: you can either use the free version that is there (but limited) or write me for a 2 month Pro version
DafneG: I am attending a f2f one in June, Curt
AidenY: I'm still interested in any projects your ss would like to do
ButhainaA: Bye, Curt and hope to meet with f-2-f one day..
CurtB: we have people using from Italy and I think Spain
AidenY: Taiwan
VanceS: Curt when will you be in UAE
VanceS: Buth can fly down
SusanneN: I'm going to edit this transcript for our homepage, is that OK woth you Curt?
CurtB: Sounds good Aiden--where are you--send me an email
SusanneN: we usually do this
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AidenY: Taiwan
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CurtB: Great, I have some students from Taiwan
AidenY: ok, I will
CurtB: Dafne, send me an email
ButhainaA: Sure, I can, it would be great if you could come Curt..TESOL arabia is coming soon
AidenY: MA or ...
DafneG: ok, will, Curt, thanks a lot
CurtB: September 5-7 th Vance in the UAE
SusanneN: Curt, do you allow us to  post our discussion on our webpage?
CurtB: or longer if not before
VanceS marks Buth's calendar
VennyS joined the room.
DafneG: hi Venny
AidenY greets Venny belated Chinese New Year
CurtB: Dafne, what is in Spain in June?  Ed Media is in Lugano, Switzerland in June and so I will be there and in Milan
SusanneN: Venny is also in Taiwan and nother active webhead
VanceS: curt, there was a question earlier asking your permission to post portions of this chat on the Internet
ButhainaA: great, ok, Vasnce and Curt, Sept.5-7, be it
DafneG: it is a conference in Barcelona, will send you the info
VanceS: is that ok with you?
CurtB: Susanne--what about adding the earlier transcript to this?
ButhainaA: but Vance what is the event?
SusanneN: sorry, Curt, the earlier transcrip, what do you mean?
VanceS: I think it's the eMerging eLearning conference
CurtB: sure post anything--my thoughts are your thoughts and vice versa
ButhainaA: ok
TeresaD: thanks, curt
SusanneN: great, We'll send you the URL :-)
CurtB: thanks Dafne
VanceS: ok, we have a habit of archiving our evetns but we want to be sure we don't step on any academic toes
VennyS left the room (signed off).
CurtB: the one in the other window
SusanneN: oh yes, I will have all that in my script
CurtB: where we started Susanne
CurtB: good
SusanneN: from the reception you mean
CurtB: send me the URL when done
CurtB: yes
VennyS joined the room.
DafneG: it will be all in the same log
SusanneN: tell me what that VERY confusing for you?
ButhainaA: yes, sus, thanks to tapped in for making our lives easier in that sense..
CurtB: good
RobertWB left the room (signed off).
SusanneN: in hte reception I mean, with all the different things going on
ButhainaA: always get releifed when i remember I'll get the script
VanceS unlocks the door
CurtB: right
VanceS: I just wanted to let you know I've unlocked the door
VanceS: but don't wish to chase anyone away
CurtB: ok, see everyone.
SusanneN: so we  can leave now?
CurtB: bye
VanceS: hehehheee
ButhainaA: asking us out, Vance?
SusanneN: it was great having you with us Curt
AidenY: bye Curt
DafneG: bye, Curt thanks for coming, come back soon
CurtB: sure thing; will do
AidenY: great discussion
ButhainaA: ok, dinner time here anyway Vance
VanceS: yes, it was great, and we need to let you have your breakfast
FionaL: THanks for all the help on my first visit, bye
VanceS: our sessions can go on and on
VanceS: we don't usually lock and unlock the doors
SusanneN nahds around a bowl of fresh bagles
TeresaD: hope you enjoyed it, fiona
AidenY hopes this won't be Curt's last time with webheads
CurtB: when Vance asked me earlier, I was not going to bed till 3 or 4 am.  I am trying to get to bed earlier but did not last night
ButhainaA: thanks for coming Curt and great pleasurte to have met you
SusanneN: and lots of hot ofee or tea
CurtB: so I did not want to get up at 7 am
SusanneN: coffee
TeresaD: i'm sure it won't, aiden. i think curt enjoyed himself
CurtB: I gave up chocalate Jan 1 and coffee 7 years ago
CurtB: decaf
SarathS joined the room.
TeresaD: and we did too. it has been a great session
SusanneN: I think we enjoyed ourselves too
SusanEsn: wow curt, that is tough!
SusanneN: Hi Sarath!
TeresaD: welcome, sarath
AidenY smiles and requests for a cappuccino
SusanneN: Nivce to see you again. Sarath
SarathS: hi, I seem to be late (as usual)
CurtB: I think I will find that chocolate!  :-)
JuanaB: see you next week I hope.I?l have to read the logs.
VanceS: ok, welcome back any time
ButhainaA: so grateful for the URLs Curyt and the other info, will check them out thoroughly soon
VanceS: we are here EVERY sunday at noon GMT
VanceS: for the last 300 sundays
SusanneN: we have got some interesting food for thought today
CurtB: I was drinking 1-2 pots of coffee a day and 3-4 diet pepsi's with caffeine so I had to give that up
FionaL left the room.
SusanEsn: that was too much caffeine curt
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CurtB: 8 years ago come July
CurtB: no soda either
SusanEsn: but down to nothing is tough!
SusanneN: I totally agree Curt, the bad habits need to be broken
CurtB: there is always beer
SarathS -)
SusanneN: I stopped smoking eleven years ago, around this date
CurtB: I am from Milwaukee
SusanEsn smiles
VanceS: I didn't renew my liquor license this year, but I do the coffee bit
CurtB: yes, smoking not a good thing for bosy
SusanneN: Yes, I recall you know a LOT about good beer
CurtB: body
ButhainaA: good, you don't smoke, or do you, Curt?
CurtB: nope; my mom does enough of that
VanceS: curt ran a marathon last year, so probably not a smoker
CurtB: right Vance
VanceS: how many marathons is that btw
SarathS: stopped alcohol about 2 yeras ago
CurtB: just 1 though willing to be an idiot and try it again
FernandaR: I'm going t have lunch, brb
SusanneN: that is one great advantage of online communication: it is odor less
VanceS: I've run a few of them but have cut back to half marathons after knee surgery
SusanEsn: where are you fernanda?
AidenY laughs at Sus's remarks
CurtB: I have done 15 all nighters since August 1.  without cofee including back to back ones last week befor a conference keynote
EllenG joined the room.
CurtB: ug!!!
EllenG: hi
SusanneN: Hi Ellen!
DafneG: hi Ellen
SusanneN: the rest of the Webheads is meeting here today
CurtB: hi Elen!
TeresaD: welcome ellen
VanceS: you know the really intersting questions to ask someone like you is about things like that
VanceS: how do you do it?  No sleep, that's how
EllenG: hi all
CurtB: yes, not good
CurtB: see ya Vance
CurtB: this is final goodbye
VanceS: that's the toughest thing to do I think
TeresaD: bye, curt. nice week
VanceS: ok, well, thanks VERY much
CurtB: thanks Teresa
CurtB: sure
VanceS: on behalf of all us webheads
SusanneN hands  Curt a ticket to ride
VanceS: geat to see you here and hope to see you back
SusanEsn: thanks curt, bye
DafneG: bye :-)
CurtB: Thanks Susanne for the TICKIT
AidenY waves bye to Curt
SusanneN: we like to have some more fun at the end os a session"
EllenG: the session is finished????
CurtB: I see
VanceS hands curt a bag of tickets
SusanneN: Ellen, for some it is,'
ButhainaA: thanks Curt
SusanneN: - you can stay
EllenG: ok
AidenY: that'
SusanneN: Curt is leaving us
VennyS left the room (signed off).
AidenY: two-way tickets Curt
SusanneN: the time is now 14.15 GMT
AidenY: jsut to make sure that you'd come back
CurtB: ok
SusanneN: great idea Aiden
SusanneN: sometimes it can be so hard to say goodbye
AidenY: lol
EllenG left the room.
EllenG joined the room.
CurtB: ......................................................bye
CurtB left the room (signed off).
VanceS: in person not so hard, but online, there's always something else
AidenY: yeah
SusanneN: Oh, he made it!!
FernandaR :)
VanceS: who was that masked man?
ButhainaA: great TICKET btw, curt and bye
AnnaK left the room (signed off).
SusanEsn: vance and buth, saw ur cairo pics, nice
VanceS: what a nice session .. did you find Ismail's pic of you Susan?
SusanneN: Vance, can you mail me a copy of your script, I was in the reception for smoe minutes when You invited  us to join
VanceS: sure sus
SusanEsn: yes vance and wrote to you an email about it
VanceS: ok, acutally it's part of a gif slide show he made
SusanEsn: it is not clear and u gave me a different surname!!
VanceS: what's the correct surname
AidenY yeah, maybe we could do this dancing porject, Daf presents Fallas, your students Buth present your traditional dance, mine too
VanceS: I think you can chage it, or I can
EllenG left the room (signed off).
EllenG joined the room.
SusanEsn: i have decided to send one that is not very accurate, as it shows me to be a red head which i am not, but at least it is clear!
DafneG: brb
VanceS: it's a screen shot  from his web cam
SusanEsn: correct name is Esnawy
VanceS: would you like it removed?  Or maybe you can remove it
AidenY: got to go, kids' first day of school tomo (2nd sem)
VanceS: I'm not sure if we have rights to remove each other/s items
VanceS: ok Aiden, nice to see you again
SusanneN: I have enjoyed  dancing Vance SO much, Buth!
AidenY: bye folks, I'll be planning this TPR and dancing project online and will let you know before this week ends
SusanneN: Aiden, goodbye for now
VanceS: I enjoyed it too
SusanneN: I'm leaving too
SusanEsn: i don't know how to remove it. but certainly would like to replace it with the other one, if u guys need visual
SusanEsn: will see about it w/ u and dafne
VanceS: actually, what happened was I saw your posting, but in BaW
VanceS: this Gif slide show is a file at EVOnline2002_webheads
SusanEsn: well, this is where i am now. this was the link u gave me!!
VanceS: you'd have to be a member to see it
SusanEsn: i already signed up
VanceS: o,h, ok, :-))
SusanEsn: no no
PeterSi left the room (signed off).
VanceS: so you can access the gif image
SusanneN: me thinks that mr. Bonk has got a lot to share
SusanEsn: i saw it in the baw area
VanceS: he does
DafneG: post it to BaW Vance I will upload the pic to our particpants web page
VanceS: yes, that's just a shot captured from the GIF
TeresaD: and so do we, sus!  :-)
SusanneN: but he also with to get paid for some of his work, which is only normal
TeresaD: i think he was impressed
VanceS: you mean, post ismail's gif to baw, right?
AidenY: BTW, when's the next chat? next sunday? any on weekdays?
DafneG: ismail is in our group too
SusanneN: definitely I agree Teresa, he was pretty amazed
DafneG: Thursday with Jonathan at LT
AidenY: I remember there's one with Micahel this WEdn
VanceS: what time Thu?
SusanEsn: what time dafne?
SusanneN: Aiden , for our workshop, there are several chats in the week
DafneG: let me check our web page
VanceS: Daf, can you post the times to WIA?
SusanneN: that was LAST wednesday Aiden'he already was there
DafneG: 16:00 GMT
VanceS: There is too much going on with all these groups, so easy to miss announcements
AidenY: oh, will check your site then. I might be able to join you this week, my class won't start till next week
SusanEsn: thanks daf
DafneG: http://www.oocities.org/bawebhead/chatsessions.html
SusanneN: we have many active participants in the workshop!
VanceS: ah, that's good, a url
TeresaD: it's been very lively, aiden
AidenY: the one with the guys from the Phils, Daf, that's Michael's latest message
SusanneN: and teh YM session with Michael was a great event
VanceS: you guys are doing a great job, I read your web page with the threads
DafneG: I might try to join MC but it is 4 am for me
VanceS: and saw the pics
TeresaD: thanks, vance  :-)
DafneG: thanks Vance :-)
SusanEsn: sus, dafne and teresa have been great
EllenG left the room.
SusanEsn: they are real good moderators!
TeresaD: very sweet, susan  :-)
DafneG: our role model is here, Susan
SusanneN: oh yes, I forgot, srooy, Michael is INVITIING for a chat, that's a horroble hour for me,
DafneG: our cathearder Vance
ButhainaA: yes indeed, they are for sure
AidenY: ok, really got to,
SusanneN meows and puurs
AidenY hugs all
AidenY: go
SusanneN purr purr
TeresaD: yes, we have learned a lot from him, susan
SusanEsn smiles
SusanneN hands Aiden the key to her car
VanceS herds aiden toward the door
ButhainaA: Me too, thank you all and catch ya later
SusanEsn: hi teresa
TeresaD: hi there, susan  :-)
SusanEsn: would like to chat with u sometime
SusanEsn: and daf , i will put this pic, especially for you.
TeresaD: (most) anytime, susan. i'm generally online i the afternoons.
DafneG: thanks dear
SusanneN: I think I  will need to leave but my window will stay open for the record.
SusanEsn: if i find it , now, i will upload it, if i manage to
TeresaD: i'm at school in the morning. will be a pleasure
ButhainaA: I won't logg of so that I can get the full script
SusanneN: Teresa said she will taka care of eitding the chatlofg for us.
ButhainaA: hugs and bye all
SusanEsn: where r u teresa? what time do you have it?
TeresaD: yes, sus. i have been doing that every sunday. it's a pleasure
SusanneN: thank you for this, Tere
TeresaD: in portugal, susan. lisbon
SusanEsn: that's gmt?
TeresaD: yes, susan
SusanEsn: i am at gmt +2
SusanneN waves goodbye
SusanEsn: ok, talk to you later
AidenY gets the key (it's a cyber ferrari BTW), heads to the door, and miows back to everyone
VanceS: cya
VanceS: I'm going to do as Daf suggests
VanceS: at YGroups now
TeresaD: fine, susan. we just to check when we are at ym at the same time and start chatting away!  :-)
SusanEsn: bye to all of you; have to go now and finish downloads to my laptop!!
VanceS: will remove thescreen shot pic
VanceS: and put Ismail's gif in the file area
AidenY left the room (signed off).
SusanEsn: vance,  send me an email!!
SusanEsn: and read mine
SusanEsn: see you all later,
SusanEsn: bye
TeresaD: bye
VanceS: were did you send yours
SusanEsn: i just hit reply
SusanEsn: do u want me to send u another email?
VanceS: but which address?
VanceS: i don't see it at .. ah you probably replied to my PI address
VanceS: OR if you replied to YGroups .. hmm no telling
SusanEsn: i guess hotmail. do you want me to send another to ur uae one
VanceS: those addresses are masked
VanceS: yeah vance_stevens (yahoo.com)  I get that anywhere
VanceS: or hotmail
VanceS: I'll check it now
SusanEsn: ok, will sent to the yahoo one
SusanEsn: bye to all
VanceS: this is nuts, email chaos
SusanEsn: yes, bye
VanceS: ok cya
SusanEsn left the room (signed off).
VanceS: Do you remember Susan Buth?
DafneG: I need to reboot, guys, see you all later
FernandaR: bye daf
VanceS: ok, I'm going to run too I guess
VanceS: or maybe just look at other windows for a while and back at this one now and then
VanceS: no reason to say goodbye with DSL at home
DafneG: right
DafneG: my laptop doing weird things, may need a reboot
VanceS: ok, nice to see you
VanceS: and CONGRATS on your dis
VanceS: it's off, eh?
TeresaD left the room (signed off).

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