Michael Coghlan Pres at YM

Wow! what a fabulous session! Michael, as usual, gave a superb presentation. A model of what a live session with voice and power point presentation should be like. Thanks Michael for sharing your expertise with us. An inspiring session, as many participants said, and thanks all of you who took part in this, our first live event. What a kick-off!

Guest Speaker: Michael Coghlan (Australia). Participants: Barbara (Brazil), Agata (Poland), Fernanda, Antonia and Luisa (Portugal), Jean Michel (Colombia), Jenny (New Zealand), Kate (Tanzania/USA), Eva and Lucy (Germany), Renata (Japan), Sara (Spain), Susan (Egypt), Chris, Darcy Greg y Bob (USA), Laure's husband (France), Carolina (Venezuela), Basem ( ), Jane (Canada). Am I missing anyone?

Moderators: Susanne (Denmark), Teresa (Portugal), Maria (Spain), Dafne (Spain).

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maria_jordano (10:25:18): yes
maria_jordano (10:25:19): wait
susannenyrop (10:25:39): great
dygonza (10:25:43): good
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agata_zieba (10:26:13): hi everyone!
susannenyrop (10:26:14): Oh , brb
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agata_zieba (10:26:55): What does BRB stand for?
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dygonza (10:27:02): be right back
teca2002pt (10:27:02): welcome everyone!
mfr2000pt (10:27:03): hi everyone
evawilden (10:27:12): this seems to work! great!
dygonza (10:27:13): hi everybody
evawilden (10:27:15): yes
susannenyrop (10:27:16): Hello Agata! that means Be Right Back - BRB
bdieu2001 (10:27:21): hello all! Greetings from Brazil!
luisa_rosa2003 (10:27:31): Hi, everybody
agata_zieba (10:27:31): Thanks, Sus
luisa_rosa2003 (10:27:53): Yes, but I can't speak
dygonza (10:28:12): better
luisa_rosa2003 (10:28:25): it's ok, sus
dygonza (10:28:43): click the voice icon Luisa (mic icon)
dygonza (10:28:45): ok
susannenyrop (10:28:54): Ok
susannenyrop (10:28:59): I see Bob
teca2002pt (10:29:02): luisa doesn't have a mic, daf
bdieu2001 (10:29:06): and johnny
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bdieu2001 (10:29:33): kathryn dodge
luisa_rosa2003 (10:29:37): Now I can't hear you are you talking
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teca2002pt (10:29:58): Thanks, but no thanks.
bdieu2001 (10:30:03): renata suzuki
luisa_rosa2003 (10:30:05): Another from Lisbon
teca2002pt (10:30:23): in 20 mins, bob
bdieu2001 (10:30:53): I am going to change rooms...do I need to be invited again?
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susannenyrop (10:31:21): basemmmak, I do not hear you
dygonza (10:31:25): cannot hear you basenmak
teca2002pt (10:31:32): me neither, basemmak
mfr2000pt (10:31:40): there's a lot of background noise
evawilden (10:31:50): Barbara, I cannot hear you, there's just a very loud buzz!
susannenyrop (10:31:53): Hi Darcy!
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katedodge2002 (10:32:20): Hi Everyone!
teca2002pt (10:32:27): leave me alone!
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dygonza (10:32:32): hi CArolina
olista (10:32:32): hi there!!
dygonza (10:32:37): nice to have you here
jchaupart (10:32:52): Hi for ereyone
luisa_rosa2003 (10:33:00): How many are we?
teca2002pt (10:33:06): yes
dygonza (10:33:06): yes JM
basemmak (10:33:08): basem abdelrahman Jordan
susannenyrop (10:33:33): welcome, Basem!
olista (10:33:43): i cannot hear you very well
teca2002pt (10:33:51): Thanks, but too late night for me for a voice conf. sorry.. next time
basemmak (10:34:04): welcome susan
olista (10:34:15): is this going to be a ssesion?
dygonza (10:34:15): try speaking Carolina, you could be heard before
susannenyrop (10:34:46): Caro, we're making a pre-session test to make sure everyone are ready, we begin in 15 minutes (hopefully)
olista (10:35:11): sorry but i won´t be able to be there
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luisa_rosa2003 (10:35:28): Teresa you can't hear me, can you?
olista (10:35:28): busy with my little girl you knw
jchaupart (10:35:32): Hola Michael!
teca2002pt (10:35:38): hi michael
dygonza (10:35:44): :stands up and claps at michael's entrance
teca2002pt (10:35:46): no luisa
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jchaupart (10:36:08): Hi Barbara
dygonza (10:36:16): it was me, Tere
jchaupart (10:36:17): Salut laure
bdieu2001 (10:36:36): Bonjour JM
teca2002pt (10:36:41): Thanks, but no thanks.
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bdieu2001 (10:36:44): Bonsoir je voulais dire
elderbobcoach (10:36:44): Michael is so loud he is off the scale for me.
luisa_rosa2003 (10:36:48): In Portugal the weather is great too
teca2002pt (10:36:52): Thanks, but no thanks.
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olista (10:37:12): sorry DAf, I have to go now
elderbobcoach (10:37:19): Luisa, we didnt hear you.
susannenyrop (10:37:29): Bee, noise but no voice
elderbobcoach (10:37:30): Bdieu, the same.
luisa_rosa2003 (10:37:34): that's what I thought
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dygonza (10:37:40): wb, mc
susannenyrop (10:37:46): Bdieu is Bee
bdieu2001 (10:37:47): no voice?
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dygonza (10:38:02): welcome, Chris
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elderbobcoach (10:38:07): Bee, I could see you but couldnt here you.
realtangobabe (10:38:12): Hi I'm sitting in an internet cafe, which doesn't have speakers!! Never mind I'm still looking forward to chatting
dygonza (10:38:14): good sound, mc
bdieu2001 (10:38:15): lots of bass
edtec2002 (10:38:20): Hi, Dafen and all. Nice to see such a big group.
elderbobcoach (10:38:31): Cool, tangobabe...
susannenyrop (10:38:37): real tango babe, nice to have you
mfr2000pt (10:38:42): Michael your voice is not clear... aren't you too close to the mic?
dygonza (10:38:43): he he
elderbobcoach (10:38:57): MIchale it was better but still loud
elderbobcoach (10:39:07): susannes is perfect.
susannenyrop (10:39:19): I'm doing my best Bob
bdieu2001 (10:39:19): sus is good here...
elderbobcoach (10:39:27): Your doing fine Susanne
mfr2000pt (10:39:31): I can hear your breath... or is it your heart?
dygonza (10:39:31): not so good now
jchaupart (10:39:34): too loud
elderbobcoach (10:39:42): That was better Mike but still cuttingout some.
bdieu2001 (10:39:43): must be the heart in his mouth...lol
susannenyrop (10:39:50): your voice is breath taking Michael
dygonza (10:39:56): oh, that's nice to hear his heart beats
bdieu2001 (10:39:59): very sexy!!!
elderbobcoach (10:39:59): Much better.
mfr2000pt (10:40:11): it is getting worse... I'm afraid the recording won't be clear
darcychristianson (10:40:14): lol
elderbobcoach (10:40:22): Its only peaking in the yeloow now.
dygonza (10:40:24): I can hear, some noise but understandable
bdieu2001 (10:40:35): much clearer...but you seem to be blowing your end sound into the mic
mikecogh (10:41:02): Exactly
agata_zieba (10:41:09): lol
elderbobcoach (10:41:12): Hellow, sesnawy, we are testing mikes.
susannenyrop (10:41:13): Hello Susan Esnawy
bdieu2001 (10:41:23): testing mike and his mike
susannenyrop (10:41:30): we're testing Mike's mike
evawilden (10:41:54): mellersh click on talk
elderbobcoach (10:42:15): I hate making spelling errors in front of a bunch of linguists...and teachers....I feel like I need to write on the board, one hundered times.....microphone.
elderbobcoach (10:42:29): Mellersh, that was perfect.
susannenyrop (10:42:29): bob, I enjoy typos!
dygonza (10:42:31): we all have typos, bob
dygonza (10:42:40): anybody speaking?
elderbobcoach (10:42:53): Thank you susanne
susannenyrop (10:43:12): Bdieu alias Bee cannot be heard from here
bdieu2001 (10:43:20): when I was feeling so talkative
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mikecogh (10:43:27):
edtec2002 (10:43:33): I just stopped by to say "hello." It's fanstastic that there are so many people.
elderbobcoach (10:43:39): I want to say Bee is buzzing but it will turn into another mikes mike.
dygonza (10:43:46): thanks for showing up, Chris
maria_jordano (10:43:49): But we could hear her very well at the very begining....
edtec2002 (10:43:55): If It turns out you have too many people, I will sign off.
maria_jordano (10:44:04): there must be something wrong with her connection
agata_zieba (10:44:07): I can't hear you either, Bee
mfr2000pt (10:44:41): you are also very far away, Sus
elderbobcoach (10:44:51): Maria, you sound very good.
mfr2000pt (10:45:00): yes!
bdieu2001 (10:45:06): I can hear everyone all right but cannot speak...running the wizard again
mfr2000pt (10:45:31): what happened to Teresa?
dygonza (10:45:35): yes, mc
grankageva (10:45:39): i hear you mike
grankageva (10:45:43): sounds good
maria_jordano (10:45:43): much beeter now Michael
elderbobcoach (10:45:45): Much better Mike.
bdieu2001 (10:45:46): this sounds much much better
agata_zieba (10:45:47): that's much better, Mike
teca2002pt (10:45:50): Merci, mais c'est non.
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mfr2000pt (10:45:50): much better
evawilden (10:45:53): much better mike!
maria_jordano (10:45:55):
dygonza (10:45:56): :claps
dygonza (10:46:03):
bdieu2001 (10:46:12): great question!
agata_zieba (10:46:14): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/becomingwebhead/files/3.%20Week%202%20Activities%20and%20Material/
teca2002pt (10:46:19): Thanks, but no thanks.
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bdieu2001 (10:46:37): could not open it
bdieu2001 (10:46:51): got it
dygonza (10:47:07): this is the ppt: http://users.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/vol/voice_app_evonline04_files/frame.htm
maria_jordano (10:47:09): make sure you have signed in
bdieu2001 (10:47:38): sound disappeared
dygonza (10:47:49): have no sound, anybody speaking?
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mikecogh (10:48:13): Ready to go when you are Sus
mfr2000pt (10:48:15): I'm going to stop the recording just to check everything is ok
bdieu2001 (10:48:16): please invite renata, tere...she lost her connection
dygonza (10:48:20): fine now, Sus
mikecogh (10:48:31): The sound is fine now
darcychristianson (10:48:35): I can hear...
edtec2002 (10:48:35): The sound is still there.
susannenyrop (10:48:39): jchaupart lost his connection too and I cannot invite him
mikecogh (10:48:43): No one was talking!
evawilden (10:49:04): me too
bdieu2001 (10:49:07): I can her everyone but am condemned to sit mute
susannenyrop (10:49:10): Well, then maybe we can begin!!
mikecogh (10:49:16): Yep!
dygonza (10:49:55): Sus is graciously introducing Michael to the audience
edtec2002 (10:50:16): If you can't hear, make sure you got to the Friend drop down menu at the top of this screen. Then click on Enable Voice.
grankageva (10:50:39): cld you repeat the klink
grankageva (10:50:46): i plw
grankageva (10:50:50): pls
mikecogh (10:50:54): http://users.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/fll/vol_resources.htm - access ppt from there
dygonza (10:50:55): or just click on and off on the mic icon (next to the webcam)
maria_jordano (10:50:59): it is writen before
grankageva (10:51:13): i just got booted
grankageva (10:51:20): please repeat the link for me
susannenyrop (10:51:35): http://users.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/vol/voice_app_evonline04_files/frame.htm
darcychristianson (10:51:41): OK!
elderbobcoach (10:51:42): We are all booted in Texas...cowboy booted.
susannenyrop (10:51:44): great voice Michael!!
dygonza (10:51:45): loud and clear
katedodge2002 (10:51:47): I can hear you!
bdieu2001 (10:51:48): :raises her hand
elderbobcoach (10:51:52): Your ok....
grankageva (10:52:01): please stop trying to be my friends right now
luisa_rosa2003 (10:52:04): I can hear you
grankageva (10:52:07): it's not the time, whoever you all are
susannenyrop (10:52:12): Dafne is going to write down what is said
grankageva (10:52:23): please repeat the link for the power point presentation
susannenyrop (10:52:30): Bee, type your question please
dygonza (10:52:37): http://users.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/vol/voice_app_evonline04_files/frame.htm
bdieu2001 (10:52:53): my question????
susannenyrop (10:53:01): forget it Bee
dygonza (10:53:02): MC will talk about the use of voice online
grankageva (10:53:28): ty daf
dygonza (10:53:42): after the pres, you will be able to ask questions and discuss
dygonza (10:54:09): 35 here at the moment, 40 is usually the max
dygonza (10:54:40): in a normal class you will not have so many people here
edtec2002 (10:54:42): Wow. That's more than I thought.
grankageva (10:54:43): loving listening mike
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dygonza (10:55:27): we can always team teach, like we are doing here sharing tasks
susannenyrop (10:55:37): The group is large that is why we will leave the presenter speak for the first half hour - and ask you type questions or comments in the text field
grankageva (10:55:43): japan
darcychristianson (10:55:43): chicago illinois
katedodge2002 (10:55:49): Lansing, Michigan
dygonza (10:55:49): Spain
edtec2002 (10:55:50): Arizona
jchaupart (10:55:50): Colombia
elderbobcoach (10:55:50): Texas.
bdieu2001 (10:55:51): Sao Paulo, Brazil
agata_zieba (10:55:53): Poland
maria_jordano (10:55:56): Spain
mfr2000pt (10:55:58): Portugal
luisa_rosa2003 (10:56:00): Portugal
susannenyrop (10:56:01): we hear you well. Susanne in Farum, Denmark
katedodge2002 (10:56:19): I live in Africa usually
realtangobabe (10:56:31): New Zealand
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dygonza (10:56:51): this is a strategy good for chat
darcychristianson (10:56:53): yes
bdieu2001 (10:56:54): yes
grankageva (10:56:55): yes
elderbobcoach (10:56:55): yes
katedodge2002 (10:56:56): Yeh
edtec2002 (10:56:57): yes
jchaupart (10:56:58): yes
mfr2000pt (10:57:00): yes
susannenyrop (10:57:02): yes yes
jchaupart (10:57:03): wwith you
dygonza (10:57:05): asking questions to the audience for a short answer
grankageva (10:57:25): mike is your screen different from ours
saramardi1972 (10:57:35): hi everyone
mikecogh (10:57:36): http://users.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/fll/vol_resources.htm
bdieu2001 (10:57:43): do not blow into your mike
grankageva (10:57:43): cos i see very few answers to your questions
dygonza (10:57:50): if you want to follow the ppt, follow the link given
susannenyrop (10:58:39): who could invite teresa and evawilden again?
mfr2000pt (10:58:42): it is a bit better now
dygonza (10:58:45): if you hear MC too loud please turn down your speaker
maria_jordano (10:59:05): mike, try to mute YM messenger sounds
dygonza (10:59:09): the question in slide 2: are you using the internet like a book?
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dygonza (10:59:35): books have been used for years in education to get info
dygonza (11:00:06): many people think the internet if only to look for info
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dygonza (11:00:40): nowadays with CMC people are the source of info
bdieu2001 (11:00:45): it's an incredible source for creativity!
dygonza (11:01:12): we use the new technology for our purposes, for many different things
teca2002pt (11:01:29): Thanks, but no thanks.
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dygonza (11:02:09): the graphic in slide 5: teacher-centered teaching
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bdieu2001 (11:02:31): at school we are at pre-dynosaur era
grankageva (11:02:45): lol bdieu
elderbobcoach (11:02:49): This looks more like a constructivist model.
dygonza (11:03:08): now we are using a constructivist model
bdieu2001 (11:03:43): you can imagine it is very difficult for the cartesian linear model to adapt to this circular and constructive model
susannenyrop (11:04:04): antonia, I still hear Michael well, msut be from your side
darcychristianson (11:04:08): ok here
grankageva (11:04:28): enjoying your talk, mike
katedodge2002 (11:05:00): Amazing
darcychristianson (11:05:00): great!
dygonza (11:05:07): this is great, summarizing and re-inviting people at the same time
katedodge2002 (11:05:11): It is pushing to explore new options
bdieu2001 (11:05:12): it is very constructive...lol
grankageva (11:05:16): i want to ask if I'm getting everyone's texts
teca2002pt (11:05:16): Thanks, but no thanks.
teca2002pt (11:05:27): my internet has been down for some time and i'm on a dial up
susannenyrop (11:05:47): I think this works pretty well today
dygonza (11:05:50): this is great, MC
teca2002pt (11:05:52): sound isn't great but i can understand mike
saramardi1972 (11:05:59): yes, it's being great
edtec2002 (11:05:59): Michael is doing his usual great job!
bdieu2001 (11:06:18): Eva...who's the other you?
bdieu2001 (11:06:33): Eva, the Polish and the EFL teacher
elderbobcoach (11:06:34): Eva, you may have two screens open, one regular, and one with voice.
bdieu2001 (11:06:59): there is an Eva with a headset and one without it
katedodge2002 (11:07:25): I find it hard to use the internet at the kindergarten level, but am looking forward to learning how.
teca2002pt (11:07:27): more at the higher ed level, isn't it?
bdieu2001 (11:07:35): in another incarnation...lol
dygonza (11:07:39): Michael is reading the results of a survey on how the internet is being used by teachers
susannenyrop (11:07:46): Eva, yes, if you're leaving and coming back, you will be seen as a double. no problem
elderbobcoach (11:07:52): That sounds really high. I am in university, and find that often the teachers dont use the internet....I think schools at a lower level use it more.
edtec2002 (11:07:56): Is this 86%, 69%, etc. of all teachers or teachers in Australia?
susannenyrop (11:08:01): TAFE in Australia
susannenyrop (11:08:16): Michael, are teh stats from Australia?
bdieu2001 (11:08:17): any secondary schools?
susannenyrop (11:09:11): Michael, your microphone is noisy for the half minute, a bit loud maybe?
susannenyrop (11:09:20): last minute or so, noisy
mfr2000pt (11:09:21): hiccups
dygonza (11:09:29): fine here
darcychristianson (11:09:33): ok here
susannenyrop (11:09:34): OK, might be feom my side then
katedodge2002 (11:09:36): I can here fine.
bdieu2001 (11:09:37): is there any way we can record the presentation?
katedodge2002 (11:09:40): hear
katedodge2002 (11:09:42): opps
dygonza (11:09:57): Fernanda is recording if I am not mistaken
bdieu2001 (11:10:08): a-r-t-i-c-u-l-a-t-e
mfr2000pt (11:10:14): I' m afraid you breathe too much
dygonza (11:10:26): that's sexy, Fern
bdieu2001 (11:10:29): too lively!
susannenyrop (11:10:42): Yes, Fernanda is trying to save the sound, breathing and vibrant alive
bdieu2001 (11:10:59): have you realized what awful students we are???
mfr2000pt (11:11:12): we are terrible
dygonza (11:11:14): we can listen to Michael while we communicate with each other, or send questions to him
bdieu2001 (11:11:14): gossiping about our teacher?
darcychristianson (11:11:24): lol
elderbobcoach (11:11:29): Bee, you are starting to see it from the student side.
agata_zieba (11:11:33): why not?
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dygonza (11:11:41): we can be communicating with instant messenger
bdieu2001 (11:11:43): just normal human beings
grankageva (11:11:50): ???from 12 ro 19 in one leap?
teca2002pt (11:11:56): that's probably the unpleasant part about this - not having control of what's going on
dygonza (11:12:08): synchronous vs asynchronous tools?
bdieu2001 (11:12:17): from 50 to 15 is even worse...degenerating
dygonza (11:12:17): synchronous = real time
grankageva (11:12:18): lol
dygonza (11:12:20): like now
susannenyrop (11:12:20): are our class begining to lose attention on the speaker? I see a little uncontrolled smalltalk going on
dygonza (11:12:34): asynchronous = delayed time, like e-mail
dygonza (11:13:07): most people like human connection
katedodge2002 (11:13:27): Yes, it is amazing.
teca2002pt (11:13:39): lol. it's almost bedtime
dygonza (11:13:42): if you add voice to the human connection we are getting an extra connection
elderbobcoach (11:13:44): In fact, with the new speed of the Internet2, and VoIPv6 we will more likely be communicating with hand held devices more like telephones.
elderbobcoach (11:14:12): and add to that the ability to use video and store much larger amounts of information.
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grankageva (11:14:32):
bdieu2001 (11:14:41): how did you do that???
dygonza (11:14:56): it can also foster teacher-centeredness if the teacher holds the floor most of the time without promoting interaction
darcychristianson (11:15:15): also good for teaching pronounciation skills...
dygonza (11:15:17):
bdieu2001 (11:15:24): ahahahah?
maria_jordano (11:15:34): how did you do that Daf?
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dygonza (11:15:45): two stars and 2 =
maria_jordano (11:15:45): you're crazy.....
bdieu2001 (11:15:54): **2=
bdieu2001 (11:16:03):
dygonza (11:16:04): renata taught me that
mikecogh (11:16:30):
katedodge2002 (11:16:35): falls down near mikecogh
mikecogh (11:16:44): Thanks Sus
darcychristianson (11:16:46): well said susanne! I agree...
katedodge2002 (11:16:47): opps that was a mistake
bdieu2001 (11:16:49): my computer silenced me so I feel restless....cannot participate so I begin getting naughty
dygonza (11:17:01): I would like to hear MC singing and playing the guitar too
teca2002pt (11:17:05): practice makes perfect, sus
maria_jordano (11:17:12): excuses, Barbara....
bdieu2001 (11:17:23): this would be fantastic...need some music!
dygonza (11:17:25): right, Bob
bdieu2001 (11:18:00): I think we could compose a little tune and a slogan for the webheads...a catchy tune...please
dygonza (11:18:12): we have some musicians among us
dygonza (11:18:17): not me btw
sesnawy (11:18:24): very true elderbob
elderbobcoach (11:18:27): And you know, no one made any of these people be here....
elderbobcoach (11:18:32): They all chose to be heree.
susannenyrop (11:18:41): I was hjust trying to express that I think Michael hs found a natural way to continue his prepared talk while he is able to skim the text chat and include questions and comments
elderbobcoach (11:18:41): and they continue to choose what and how they learn.
bdieu2001 (11:18:56): slide 11 is?
grankageva (11:19:11): i know traditional lecture things are not in fashion, but i like sitting here listening
dygonza (11:19:16): Wimba voice board and Wimba voice e-mail are asynchrnous voice tools
bdieu2001 (11:19:33): range of tools?
dygonza (11:19:50): (apologies for typos)
grankageva (11:19:57): it looks fine here
saramardi1972 (11:20:11): it looks good here
dygonza (11:20:23): yahoo free, easy to use
bdieu2001 (11:20:34): which one do you prefer?
susannenyrop (11:20:46): yes Bob, we have decided to meet this way, volunrtarily and for pleasure! This is an amazing source of learning when pople decide for themselves to pull the knowledge on board their own little personal vessels -and to sail the sea together!
dygonza (11:20:50): I have done great group work with yahoo messenger
maria_jordano (11:20:55): now msn is very good quality too...
bdieu2001 (11:20:56): thanks
saramardi1972 (11:21:06): So have I. Never tried it with yahoo before
dygonza (11:21:10): msn problem is with firewalls
grankageva (11:21:12): msn sound is problematic with my firewall
maria_jordano (11:21:12): much better thn before
grankageva (11:21:28): so is cam
teca2002pt (11:21:29): lol
maria_jordano (11:21:30): all is a question of trying
grankageva (11:21:43): yahoo is great
bdieu2001 (11:21:45): ah...need free tools
grankageva (11:21:54): icq people harrassed me terribly
dygonza (11:22:02): yahoo is very handy
teca2002pt (11:22:07): yes, renata. very true
maria_jordano (11:22:15): me too, grankageva
saramardi1972 (11:22:18): Where can we get Groove from?
bdieu2001 (11:22:23): sounds groovy
elderbobcoach (11:22:32): I think ICQ has just gotten much too large...
mfr2000pt (11:22:33): I like icq... allows multitasking
susannenyrop (11:22:44): peer to peer technologies like Groove - who has been using that yet?
saramardi1972 (11:22:48): thanks
bdieu2001 (11:22:49): freeeee!
dygonza (11:22:52): if you look at the links Michael sent on his web page for this session you will get all those links
saramardi1972 (11:23:06): thanks daf!
bdieu2001 (11:23:08): fantastic!
teca2002pt (11:23:44): i love elluminate. it's fabulous. has all the works
elderbobcoach (11:23:50): Thanks, Daff.
dygonza (11:23:51): yes, elluminate is great
grankageva (11:24:04): what so the school admin buys it?
dygonza (11:24:12): Jonathan will give us a tour to elluminate
bdieu2001 (11:24:31): they are not at this level yet...they are suspicious of all things technology believe it or not!
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elderbobcoach (11:24:41): I think that eventually, open source will provide us with a free version or something similar to elluminate.
susannenyrop (11:24:52): eluminate is what is used as a base for learning Times where Jonathan Finkelstein will give us a tour
grankageva (11:25:12): terrible options for kids looking at porn online
grankageva (11:25:19): during school hours...
bdieu2001 (11:25:22): very disturbing
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bdieu2001 (11:25:29): kids do not listen to you
grankageva (11:25:31): that's all they register
bdieu2001 (11:25:35): kids get distracted
bdieu2001 (11:25:44): kids are having FUN!!!
antoniamelvin142 (11:25:54): thanks it worked again! You're very kind!
bdieu2001 (11:26:01): learning cannot be fun apparently
susannenyrop (11:26:18): well grankageva, even adults may get distracted from their work by admiring pictures of human beings!
bdieu2001 (11:26:20): I wonder how this notion was created
dygonza (11:26:26): did you hear me?
bdieu2001 (11:26:28): lol sus
darcychristianson (11:26:37): i heard you daf
susannenyrop (11:26:37): Daf, yes I heard you
grankageva (11:26:39): the computer facilities at school do not permit
saramardi1972 (11:26:39): yes daf, loud & clear
grankageva (11:26:44): all this
grankageva (11:26:56): oops sorry
bdieu2001 (11:26:59): we create sub-groups
elderbobcoach (11:27:01): Regarding people lookin at things that arent relevant to the class, well we said we wanted to move to something that the learner wants to learn.
susannenyrop (11:27:09): this is a parallel conversation!
susannenyrop (11:27:24): deifnitely sliding off topic
bdieu2001 (11:27:37): we are poli whatever this is called in anthropoly
darcychristianson (11:27:43): good point mike
bdieu2001 (11:27:45): anthropology
elderbobcoach (11:28:06): YOu could always throw up a really compelling picture to bring their focus back.
darcychristianson (11:28:11): lol
grankageva (11:28:17): even if we do
bdieu2001 (11:28:20): what kind of picture do you have in mind?
susannenyrop (11:28:22): Maybe we could call the audience to order!
grankageva (11:28:24): the question is what we will learn
bdieu2001 (11:28:36): we are communicating!
bdieu2001 (11:28:42): interacting1
dygonza (11:28:43): right, bee
susannenyrop (11:29:00): Ladies & Gentlemen! Are we having any relevant questions to our guest?
dygonza (11:29:02): that's what 's important with EFL students
darcychristianson (11:29:08): wow!
bdieu2001 (11:29:10): sus...this is awful!!!
susannenyrop (11:29:17): That was to call for attention!
mfr2000pt (11:29:18): your sound is getting worse, Mike
darcychristianson (11:29:28): it worked susanne
katedodge2002 (11:29:48): ok
darcychristianson (11:29:48): ok here
grankageva (11:29:50): ok for me
dygonza (11:29:50): that was a great project, MC
susannenyrop (11:29:54):
bdieu2001 (11:29:59): good but basser and basser
dygonza (11:30:01): I hear you fine
antoniamelvin142 (11:30:07): I've been on & off, but its ok when I'm in (the sound)
susannenyrop (11:30:13): basser ? more bass on Michael
susannenyrop (11:30:16): 's voice?
susannenyrop (11:30:48): Slide 16!
dygonza (11:30:56): Michael writes great songs if you did not know
susannenyrop (11:31:04): well, six hours from me
bdieu2001 (11:31:12): it is important when we have outsiders in our class...I did the same with blogs
susannenyrop (11:31:18): by car or by train
teca2002pt (11:31:26): almost as big as australia
dygonza (11:31:27): Anne's project was very interesting
susannenyrop (11:31:33): there are two ling bridges to pass, or a ferry
grankageva (11:31:40): anyone else being bombed byu friend invites???
edtec2002 (11:31:41): Sorry, but I need to leave now. Thanks, Michael, for making this presentation, and thanks to the moderators of Becoming a Webhead for setting this up. Bye.
bdieu2001 (11:31:47): wolves welcome fresh meat
teca2002pt (11:31:57): you're welcome, chris.
grankageva (11:31:59): it's very disturbing if it's anyone in the room please stop
elderbobcoach (11:31:59): Bye edtech.
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teca2002pt (11:32:01): glad you came by
grankageva (11:32:05): not the time
antoniamelvin142 (11:32:05): Its new to some of us crumblies!
dygonza (11:32:07): yes, i had a voice chat with one of Anne's students
teca2002pt (11:32:18): it was a very interesting chat, mike
susannenyrop (11:32:20): maybe you can make your invitations later please
bdieu2001 (11:32:40): people are practical sus...the ids are just there
dygonza (11:32:40): we shared how people live in different countries with questions and answers
susannenyrop (11:32:47): Anne's students were indeed an interesting case
evawilden (11:32:54): thats it bee
teca2002pt (11:33:04): after 5 mins. of text chat they started voice chatting and it went on for 1 hr
dygonza (11:33:38): in my case, we only had voice chat
darcychristianson (11:34:04): great project!
elderbobcoach (11:34:14): And I hate to bring it up, but it is not just language learners...there is so much more that people are interested in,'
teca2002pt (11:34:20): absolutely lucy
teca2002pt (11:35:01): buth's idea was very interesting and innovative in the webhead community
dygonza (11:35:02): I think that content is what makes language lessons be successful, a need to communicate about something
bdieu2001 (11:35:49): buth's interactive experience was fantastic!
susannenyrop (11:35:52): Michael, will there be a few minutes for those who would like to let us hear their own voice ?
teca2002pt (11:35:56): and quite at ease considering the novelty of te situation for them, mike
bdieu2001 (11:37:09): imagine all this with a webcam!!!
teca2002pt (11:37:16): lol bee
maria_jordano (11:37:22): We could
agata_zieba (11:37:22): lol
bdieu2001 (11:37:26): rwl
maria_jordano (11:37:27): lol
dygonza (11:37:33): the problem is that webcams hinder voice
susannenyrop (11:37:39): Please raise your hand and type your topic so we can see how many can get access to the mic before we're summing up!
elderbobcoach (11:37:48): a web cam may eventually play it's own role in communication...but wehave to get greater speeds over the net first.
susannenyrop (11:37:57):
susannenyrop (11:38:04): slide 17
saramardi1972 (11:38:08): I have a question for later...
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mikecogh (11:38:30): http://users.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/fll/vol_resources.htm
elderbobcoach (11:38:31): If it's true that 80-% of communication is non-verbal, then Web cam will be come a necessity.
maria_jordano (11:38:32): that is a good thing I would like to comment with all of you..... have you noticed if your level of English has increased with WIA?
teca2002pt (11:38:55): hurrah for mike!
evawilden (11:39:06): stands up and applauds
teca2002pt (11:39:10): i'm afraid of my dial-up connection, mike
katedodge2002 (11:39:12): Thanks Mike!
maria_jordano (11:39:13):
jchaupart (11:39:14):
dygonza (11:39:15): standing ovation
grankageva (11:39:18): thank you mike, could you paste in the link to your homepage again?
evawilden (11:39:21): stands up and applauds
mikecogh (11:39:21):
darcychristianson (11:39:23): thank you mike!
katedodge2002 (11:39:23): cheers
bdieu2001 (11:39:24): claps wildly although there is no sound!!!
elderbobcoach (11:39:30): This has been a great session. Now I have to go to facilitate a telephone class. It will be a bit of a shift, but what a phenomenal opportunity for me to compare the two.
evawilden (11:39:35): how do you do tat applauding smiley?
saramardi1972 (11:39:35):
sesnawy (11:39:43): thanks Mike
mikecogh (11:39:44): Excellent Bob
teca2002pt (11:39:51): thank you mike. a very interesting presentation
luisa_rosa2003 (11:39:57):
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evawilden (11:40:05): daf, how can I do that applauding smiley?
jchaupart (11:40:10): for Sus
maria_jordano (11:40:12): can you see the yellow face?
teca2002pt (11:40:12): very nicely said, bob
maria_jordano (11:40:14): there...
katedodge2002 (11:40:14): Right on Bob
mikecogh (11:40:14): Thank you Bob
dygonza (11:40:27): click on the smile face icon
evawilden (11:40:39):
dygonza (11:40:39): and you will get many smileys there
dygonza (11:40:42): great
evawilden (11:40:44): thanks
bdieu2001 (11:40:48): I feel this is a great tool with many opportunities for interactive work but as sara says it is impossible to use with crowded secondary classes
susannenyrop (11:41:07): Ok, just take the mic when you feel ready and there's a break -maybe that will work if were not all going to be loud and long wind
dygonza (11:41:11): I do not think so, bee
elderbobcoach (11:41:14): It seems to me that people in Australia have had many more years getting used to distance education...School of the air.
jchaupart (11:41:18): right for crowdy classes
dygonza (11:41:19): I have used it with 20 students at the same time
dygonza (11:41:25): divided in groups of 5
bdieu2001 (11:41:32): right
evawilden (11:41:35): they blur already
bdieu2001 (11:41:40): but yours are adults
dygonza (11:41:40): having differnt conference windows with each group
elderbobcoach (11:41:43): No matter how prevalent it was, it still allowed a populace to become accustomed to the idea of people learning at a distance.
susannenyrop (11:41:44): Bee, we're not secondary students but well behaving grownups!
bdieu2001 (11:41:50): not teenagers
dygonza (11:41:50): not so 18 19 years old
mikecogh (11:42:04): What do others think?
grankageva (11:42:09): in my case the school itself does not support me
grankageva (11:42:12): admiin
grankageva (11:42:14): funding
grankageva (11:42:19): access to puter rooms
teca2002pt (11:42:27): renata in japan
bdieu2001 (11:42:30): renata suzuki...japan
elderbobcoach (11:42:48): ITs a good point about the things that block us from using forms of new communication, but by all of us being here, new doors are being opened....time will pass...and then,\
bdieu2001 (11:42:48): me too
mikecogh (11:42:49):
susannenyrop (11:42:55): 40 students is terrible!!
bdieu2001 (11:43:01): same thing here...
elderbobcoach (11:43:17): I hear that about your students, but I wonder how many of the same students have cell phones...
elderbobcoach (11:43:35): We have to start thinking about new ways to combine technologies.
bdieu2001 (11:43:36): but I imagine japanese stds are quieter than brazilian ones...may be a stereotyped view
dygonza (11:43:39): I do not think so, Sus
mikecogh (11:43:48):
dygonza (11:43:49): it all depends on the kind of task you design
elderbobcoach (11:43:58): Cell phones are rapidly becoming hand held computers...with wireless internet.
bdieu2001 (11:44:02): sure
saramardi1972 (11:44:09): perhaps teachers feel as reluctant to use these tools as to give their students their cell phone number!!!
bdieu2001 (11:44:24): exactly
bdieu2001 (11:44:33): open up...
jchaupart (11:44:44): some technologies are not so popular as they are in big cities in first world countries
elderbobcoach (11:44:53): Or perhaps the schools could sign up for numbers for instructors...
jchaupart (11:45:06): waht about rural areas in countries as many of latin america?
elderbobcoach (11:45:29): Technology will get used whether the school offers it or not..
bdieu2001 (11:45:38): just like in business...people are plunging into informality...
elderbobcoach (11:45:43): If schools aret to survive, they must adapt.
maria_jordano (11:45:46): but.... do your teachers want to spend their time in things like this?
elderbobcoach (11:45:58): IS this class a private class?
maria_jordano (11:46:01): that's the problem in the institution where I work
susannenyrop (11:46:04): but Bob is right, school could have cell phones and use them as cheap handheld palm devices for creativity and communication purposes ( in the ideal world).
dygonza (11:46:06): students love to be able to attend sessions from home
bdieu2001 (11:46:06): you are lucky
jchaupart (11:46:14): but it's not a problem of schools; the problem is with infrastructure of some regions
bdieu2001 (11:46:21): exactly
dygonza (11:46:33): he he
mikecogh (11:46:34):
maria_jordano (11:46:42): I think the problem is more from the part of the teachers....
teca2002pt (11:46:42): good point renata
bdieu2001 (11:46:42): but where do you draw the line between your privacy and school hours?
maria_jordano (11:46:48): sometimes...
teca2002pt (11:46:55): i agree, bee
elderbobcoach (11:46:58): I foresee a time when the lines of countries are blurred by the technology.
susannenyrop (11:47:08): Michael's final question:
elderbobcoach (11:47:25): Yes, Mellersh.
bdieu2001 (11:47:26): sure
antoniamelvin142 (11:47:29): Yes, as a collaborative tool
evawilden (11:47:35): definitely
susannenyrop (11:47:38): do you see this kind of environment as ususl for your students to learn English, or not?
darcychristianson (11:47:40): Most definately!
antoniamelvin142 (11:47:43): To share opinions and experiences
grankageva (11:47:45): oooh yeah, wondering if it can feasibly be done with cell phones
katedodge2002 (11:47:49): Yes, but the logistics will be a challenge
bdieu2001 (11:47:56): I am going to experiment inspite of all the obstacles
darcychristianson (11:48:00): exactly bob!
mikecogh (11:48:03): Good point Bob
antoniamelvin142 (11:48:12): Cell phones are expensive in my experience
bdieu2001 (11:48:13):
susannenyrop (11:48:13): Bob points out that "the entire world is our school world!"
bdieu2001 (11:48:34): fresh meat
dygonza (11:48:40): lol
evawilden (11:48:41): had the same idea sara
susannenyrop (11:48:41): Sara, could you type your message?
katedodge2002 (11:48:53): Very cool idea
susannenyrop (11:48:54): I did not hear you well, Sara
teca2002pt (11:48:56): good point too, bob
saramardi1972 (11:49:29): Yes, I said I'm considering having guest speakers in conferences with my students, for them to be able to hear a different voice, pronunciation, intonation , different to mine!
bdieu2001 (11:49:30): the motivation of being heard, of being able to ask a question, the motivation of interacting
dygonza (11:49:31): righ sus
sesnawy (11:49:50): right sus
susannenyrop (11:49:55): Sara, great point!
jchaupart (11:50:16): for Michael, Sus, Dafne, Teresa and Maria
katedodge2002 (11:50:17): Thank you!
evawilden (11:50:19):
grankageva (11:50:19): thanks mike
susannenyrop (11:50:20): We wish to thank you"!!!
antoniamelvin142 (11:50:24): Thank you
saramardi1972 (11:50:24): Thank you very much!
katedodge2002 (11:50:26):
darcychristianson (11:50:27): thankyou again mike
elderbobcoach (11:50:27): This was fabulous, but I have to go too.
mfr2000pt (11:50:28):
maria_jordano (11:50:29): thanks Jean Michael
saramardi1972 (11:50:30): It's been great
teca2002pt (11:50:30): thank you all and mike above all
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sesnawy (11:50:33): thank you Mike
maria_jordano (11:50:34):
bdieu2001 (11:50:35): ok...he's drawn the line...great presentation mike thank you very much
evawilden (11:50:35): thanks mike
evawilden (11:50:35): thanks mike
saramardi1972 (11:50:37):
dygonza (11:50:37): for Michael
grankageva (11:50:38): most thought provoking
luisa_rosa2003 (11:50:39): thank you milke
darcychristianson (11:50:42): thank you everyone
agata_zieba (11:50:43):
maria_jordano (11:50:51): thanks Michael for your pre-session too
maria_jordano (11:51:00):
dygonza (11:51:10): great kick off of live events
jchaupart (11:51:22): Felicitaciones para las luso e hispanoparlantes
antoniamelvin142 (11:51:22): Great Sus!
bdieu2001 (11:51:26): thanks Sus...
dygonza (11:51:28): Tomorrow BJB at Tapped In
jchaupart (11:51:33): felicitations Sus
teca2002pt (11:51:36):
maria_jordano (11:51:41): from Spain
evawilden (11:51:45): yeaah I need one too mellersh
evawilden (11:51:49):
bdieu2001 (11:51:50):
saramardi1972 (11:51:50): yes congratulations to our fantastic moderators!!!
katedodge2002 (11:51:53): I am glad I am in the States this week!
saramardi1972 (11:51:58): great job as usual Sus, Daf, Maria
sesnawy (11:51:59): bye sus
saramardi1972 (11:52:03): & Teresa
mikecogh (11:52:10): Bye everyone. Thanks moderators - can hear you Tere
sesnawy (11:52:16): thanks to all moderators
mikecogh (11:52:31): My pleasure Tere - you know I love it!
grankageva (11:52:38): yes, thank you moderators
jchaupart (11:52:42): bye everyone..
evawilden (11:52:42): how did you do that mellersh?
saramardi1972 (11:52:45): for moderators too!
evawilden (11:52:47):
evawilden (11:52:49): found it
susannenyrop (11:52:50): to our participants , this was a great start for our sycnhornous session series of interesting guests!!
mikecogh (11:52:53): Bye
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