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Monday, February 23, 2004 (20:00 - 21:00 GMT)

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MichaelDK smiles at Greg and gives him a hug
TeresaD: hi, everybody! welcome!
AgataZ: Hi, Teresa, nice to see you!
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RenataS: oh hi leah, so glad you managed to find it
SaraMa: Hi Daf
TeresaD: welcome, sara!
RenataS: did you see my pms, leah
TeresaD: how is carnival?
SaraMa: Hi teresa.
DafneG: good evening, morning, afternoon,
LeahS: Sorry, I'm a dawdler..yes, Renata..saw it
TeresaD: welcome, daf
SaraMa: Well, it's fine! Some time off at last!!!
RenataS: oh good, i had a bit of difficulty finding things
TeresaD: that's what's more important for me. i was needing the break
RenataS: it is a bit hard so early in the morning :)
MichaelDK: Hi, I'm back
MichaelDK: Just getting a few ducks in some sort of row.
DafneG: hello Michael
MichaelDK: Hi Dafne
RenataS: i didn't sleep well all night what with the excitement of my blog...and knowing i have to wake up on time
TeresaD: michael, we're ready when you are. i'd just like to make a brief intro first, ok?
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MichaelDK: That would be great.
RenataS: there is no sound here, right?teres?
TeresaD: welcome eva
DafneG: still some people at reception
EvaW: back again
EvaW: hi everyone
TeresaD: want to wait another minute, daf?
EvaW: glad to see you again
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TeresaD: no sound here
TeresaD: welcome antonia
AntoniaM: Hallo everyone!
RenataS: any way to make text bigger?
RenataS: this really hurts my eyes
DafneG: hi Antonia
DafneG: detach the window, renata
EvaW: in actions menu
TeresaD: look in the font menu, renata
AntoniaM: hallo, it feels like a while...I've been 'away'!..
DafneG: and get larger fonts
EvaW: larger text
RenataS: aha, you have tokeep repeatedly clicking on the larger fonts button in the action menu
DafneG: but you are finally, back with us, Antonia :-)
RenataS: i thought you could only do it once
AntoniaM: yes, good to be here daf!
TeresaD: nice to have you back, antonia!
RenataS: and was killing myself with the next but one teeny font
EvaW: in my window it remains large renata
RenataS: thank you daf and eva
TeresaD: well, daf and michael, i think i'll put up my intro of michael
RenataS: now i have clicked about four times on large font
RenataS: and have a decent size
DafneG: yes, go ahead, tere
AgataZ: when you click twice it becomes huge, Renata
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TeresaD: welcome fiona
DafneG: hello Fiona
RenataS: that has been a problem for me all aloong at tapped in
RenataS: thank you for the help
FionaL: hi everyone
DafneG -)
RenataS: is there any way to make it bold?
AntoniaM: Hi fiona!
TeresaD: well, ladies and gentlemen  :-)  i think it's time we start.
EvaW: it is fun playing with the fonts... :-)
MichaelDK: Whenever you are ready Teresa
RenataS: i have a heavy astigmatism and am short sighted
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TeresaD: so i'll just introduce michael and he can take the floor
MichaelDK: Since there is a Web page to guide people, i think latecomers will be OK
RenataS: this spidery stuff first thing kills me
ButhainaA: Hello all, sorry I'm late!

Teresa introduces Michael

TeresaD: I'd like to introduce Michael Krauss, a colleague and friend, with whom I took my first online course ever, titled Integrating the Internet in the Classroom (http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/usia/home.html).
TeresaD: As I said in a message some days back, Michael started me in this world of online exercise making, giving me a totally different perspective of the Internet. So he's partly responsible  for having whet my appetite to join the Webheads in Action EVO session in Jan 2002.
TeresaD: Michael has not only produced a very significant number of resources, but has also collected extremely useful resources, very well organized,and available to all in his many Web pages.
TeresaD: Michael, thank you for having accepted our invitation to be here this evening with our BaW participants. The floor is yours!  :-)

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RenataS: where is bob?
TeresaD: welcome isabel!  :-)
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MichaelDK: Thanks Teresa
IsabelP: hi everyone , a bit late
KarenGar applauds
DafneG: hi Isabel
MichaelDK: Thanks to all for coming. I know it's late for  some and very early for others.
ShuniI: Michael Krauss
SusanneN sits down to listen for a while
AntoniaM antonia applauds too!
MichaelDK: I feel somewhat a stranger in a family setting.
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DafneG: feel at home, Michael
AntoniaM can't remember to forget to type her own name1:)
TeresaD sits back and listens to michael

A very nice word from Michael to the moderators

MichaelDK: My Kudos to the moderators for having such as successful  session
SusanneN hands Micahel a Webheads cap
RenataS: hear hear
MichaelDK: and for cultivating a great atmosphere!
TeresaD: thanks you, michael. it's very sweet of you  :-)
AntoniaM have a blanket Micheal, i think its cold in a lot of places!

Michael formally begins the session by referring the structure he has in mind

MichaelDK: In order to make the session run a little smoother
MichaelDK: I have a structure in mind.
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KarenGar . o O ( that's the trick )
MichaelDK: There is a Web page to look at and I have some time suggestions for looking at it
TeresaD: welcome, elizabeth
ButhainaA: Michael, thanks for the brilliant ideas on your webPage; very inspiring, particularly those of Quia!
MichaelDK: and also for Q & A at certain times
MichaelDK: Thanks!
ButhainaA: welcome
MichaelDK: Here's my idea
ElizabethH: Michael--could you put the URL here again so that it appears in the transcript? Thanx
DafneG: that sound great
TeresaD: no url yet, eliz
RenataS: webpage? can we open the browser simultaneously
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RenataS: do you use / and project?
TeresaD: yes, reanta
MichaelDK: 10 minutes for introduction and  description of the first two items on the Web page
MichaelDK: 10 minutes for you to explore the first two items on the Web page
MichaelDK: 5-10 minutes to come back for a Q and A about the resources you examined
MichaelDK: 5 minutes to intro the next three items on the Web page
MichaelDK: 15 minutes for you to explore the second set of resources
MichaelDK: remainder of time for more Q and A + general schmoozing.
RenataS: oh god what web page???
RenataS: feel like i'm losing it already
SusanneN: yes, Reanat, it will open if you click it in another window, once you get the URL typed in here
MichaelDK: I've not put up the URL yet so you all won't flake out and leave me!
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TeresaD: lol
GregK: ah, never
AgataZ: lol
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DafneG: we will behave
SaraMa: that's a good strategy Michael...you're getting all of our attention
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GeorginaN: indeed
MariaJ: Hi
MichaelDK: Please keep in mind that I come from a content based philosophy
DafneG: hi maria
AgataZ: probably
TeresaD: welcome maria
MariaJ: sorry for the delay
RenataS: trying to make a not e of the times
RenataS: only the screen moves up so fast
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MichaelDK: I have tried to give you samples of student and teacher work tied to specific courses.
RenataS: i've lost them....
MichaelDK: Because we're running a little behind schedule, I'll turn you loose.
RenataS: is there someway to highlight the teacher words
RenataS: for scrolling back to check easily?
MichaelDK: Please have a look at the first two sites and come back after ten mintues.
EvaW: ok, see you in ten minutes
SaraMa: ok
DafneG: use the send to pasteboard feature in the menu, renata
MichaelDK: These projects assume some Web skills on the part of  the teacher.
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MichaelDK: Here's the url
KarenGar: http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/evonline2004/onlinematerials.html
GeorginaN: thanks
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MichaelDK: http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/evonline2004/onlinematerials.html
TeresaD: thanks, michael
KarenGar . o O ( opps... )
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AntoniaM hallo again, not sure ehere i went then...interesting...
SusanneN: starts reading the page and plan to look back in five to ten minutes
TeresaD: look at culture capsules and hatchet, right, michael?
MichaelDK: right
MichaelDK: about 10 minutes would be good.
AntoniaM: ok, cult caps & hatch it is !
KarenGar: what should we do now?
MichaelDK: Have a look at http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/evonline2004/onlinematerials.html
TeresaD: take a look at items 1 & 2, karen
MichaelDK: first two activities
ButhainaA: Michael, where do you teach? in UAE?
MichaelDK: I'm in Portland, Oregon
ButhainaA: some students with Arabic names !
MichaelDK: Yes, we used to have many!
ButhainaA: oh, and those are international Ss ..ok, I c
MichaelDK: Alas, not  so much anymore!
RenataS: ok, ihave the url in my browser now, click on one and two, right?
ButhainaA: interesdting
MichaelDK: That's right
RenataS: ty ty
RenataS: making a folder before i read
RenataS: i am slow....
RenataS: newbie syndrome
KarenGar: Notice the Required Text and Materials:
KarenGar: Buy your text in class the first day.
KarenGar: Macintosh HD disk. Buy a new one for this class. PC disk is *NOT * ACCEPTABLE.
KarenGar: Note: Materials fee = $10. Lab fee = $10. Please pay the instructor.
RenataS: to bookmark
MariaJ: don't worry,Renata, It's normal...
ButhainaA: I have created several vocab. exercises for one of my classes, Micahel, and they all have disappaered because becasue I didn't renew my membership! Is there a way to get them back, Michael?
KarenGar: Is this an online activity?
MichaelDK: Wow, was that using Quia?
ButhainaA: yes, Quia, like the one Michael used beautifully with his students
MichaelDK: The students created the Culture Capsules to go online.
ButhainaA: Michael, any idea?
AntoniaM: The writing activities & the students' work are great Micheal, very inspiring and all integrated into a website which is both professional yet personalised :)
KarenGar: can someone explain what Quia is?
MichaelDK: I'm afraid they are gone if the trial period ended
ButhainaA: I have written to Quia, though, but no reply from them yet
MichaelDK: They are usually pretty helpful.
ButhainaA: oh, I spent hours and hours , it's unfair1
AntoniaM: Is Quia necessary to use the activities on youer site?
MichaelDK: yes, definitely
EvaW: michael, could you briefly explain what you understand by a culture capsule?
ButhainaA: But I should say it's worth paying for an account with Quia..
MichaelDK: A partner project where students create a Web page together on a topic  from their culture.
EvaW: thanks!
MichaelDK: Your welcome!
MichaelDK: oops typo again.
AntoniaM: Micheal do your own st's work in pairs or do they pair up with st's from wanother part of the world?
MichaelDK: Quia is definitely worth the money, especially since teachers can share one account
MichaelDK: In this project, they pair up in class.
GregK: I used Michael's culture capsule idea when I taught with him a few years back.  It's a great activity, and students enjoy it.
SaraMa: I've really liked the culture capsules idea , specially to work in e-pal exchanges. I think such work is really stimulating for students
IsabelP: I think culture cupsule is a great idea to do with group of students that come from different cultures and also for e-mail projects
TeresaD: i love the comparison/contrast idea. it has such interesting results
AntoniaM: Mmmm...I had a look at Quia and already i think will persuade my HOD to get it, only $49 or something...
RenataS: are ten minutse up yet??
MichaelDK: Just about
ButhainaA: I like the cultural capsula very much Michael..could tell us more about it, please.
RenataS: i need a stopwatch,,,,,
SaraMa: But so you really think Quia is worth paying for?
MichaelDK: More on that later--quia that is.
EvaW: yes, I'd love to hear more on culture capsule too
MichaelDK: On the Web page, there are complete lessons for you to do CC project if you like.
AntoniaM: I did when i'd looked Sarah, I'll soon sign up for the trial membrdhp which is a whole month..
MichaelDK: There are templates for  the Web pages.
DafneG: I saw that, that is very kind of you Michael
MichaelDK: If you have basic html or Web editor skills, you can do it.
AntoniaM: Yes I saw the templates in Quia and loads of other stuff!
SusanneN: is everyone back from reading break?
GeorginaN: Michael, are you saying there are templates for those webpages with Quia?
LuisaRo: yes
TeresaD: the topics for the CC are fascinating
MichaelDK: No, some people jumped ahead to Quia, but that's alittle later.
GeorginaN: ok
SaraMa: I also liked very much the Hatchet project. Students do not usually get very involved with reading assignments, so it's a great way ta make them really involved with the reading task
RenataS: is there a buzz function so you buzz us so we know times up?
RenataS: i worry about being back ontime so i can't concentrate on reading
SaraMa: I mean if they are producing something that can be seen by other people
DafneG: I like the inclusion of pics within the reading
SusanneN: you cannot herd online cats, Michael, they may stroll in all directions but will come back when they're hungry for more
MichaelDK: Hatchet was a team endeavor between the reading teacher and me (in my computer applications course)
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AntoniaM: I 'spose you could make yr own for any kinda novel or text (hatcjhet that is)?
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RenataS: wb leah
GeorginaN: yes I really like that..I work with students with very low iteracy..that'd be great
SusanneN: Renata,m stop worrying and enjoy the flow
MichaelDK: I'm just a frustrated herder I guess.
RenataS: hello, how is the time scheme
SaraMa: lol Michael
RenataS: please don't tell me to stop worrying sus, it doesn't help me
RenataS: i am worrying
DafneG: he he
TeresaD: renata, you can always come back to the materials
ElizabethH: I liked the Culture Capsules very much, as it makes a good Advanced Writing project--actually
MichaelDK: These first two projects require some Web building skill on the teacher's part
ElizabethH: you can adapt to the level of the students.
ButhainaA: No, I had a look at Mocvhael's webpage this morning, this is why I had Quiza in my mind
TeresaD: definitely, eliz
IsabelP: Michael, how long does a CC take ?
RenataS: when is the ten minutes up please?
MichaelDK: Actually, I've done CC with low intermediates to advanced
TeresaD: now, renata
RenataS: how will i know when it is time to focus on the chat screen again
AntoniaM: Your projects are also good for ESL st's with good ICT skills...mine have a knowledge of web-building -basic
MichaelDK: CC takes about 3 weeks meeting 5 hours/week
RenataS: i have lost track of the time schedule please help me
ButhainaA: But I am updating pages for my c-lab  tomorrow and I would like to integrate something CC porjects.
ElizabethH: You could have the students determine the content--I do a similar paper after a reading in our course book.
MichaelDK: But this includes an oral presentation using the CC as a visual aid at the end of the project.
KarenGar: could'nt you use blogs for these activities?
ElizabethH: Having the Webpage templates makes it quicker.
AntoniaM: that's a good idea karen, i wonder...
SaraMa: That's a great idea Karen
TeresaD: i don't think it would produce the same effect, karen
KarenGar . o O ( I am still trying to figure out what a blog is... )
JeanMC: Renata, you can have the windows of Michael's pages smaller and see what is going on in TI at the same time
GregK: Are your students using Dreamweaver now to create the pages, or do they use Claris Home page for some?
SaraMa: Why not? I mean they could use blogs to comment on the things they are discovering
TeresaD: a blog could be used to prepare the materials
SaraMa: And to ask people for feedback on their topic...
MichaelDK: We use Dreamweaver.  I still use Claris Home Page a lot but it's no longer available nor supported.
ShuniI: Webpage template for student to use, a great idea, Elizabeth.
TeresaD: yes, sara. i agree. but not to have the whole project together, i don't think
MichaelDK: I love it as a teaching tool, so that's too bad it was discontinued.
ButhainaA: oh, I sse, Michael, but I am having ny general english class in mind , they us eNorth Star and with a simple CC version maybe gonna be great , what do you think..can we do it in a simple way for them, Michael?
AntoniaM: Eventually I 'sode we'll integrate all these forms of media for learning, the software 'll get easier 'n easier to use?...
ElizabethH: Blogs could be used for free writing/brainstorming/exploring ideas in collaboration, but the paper needs to be a real academic paper for the course intended here.
TeresaD: that's what i meant, eliz.
GeorginaN: can you use images in many blogs?
IsabelP: I agree with you Eliz
SaraMa: Well, perhaps is because I'm thinking of secondary school students...
ButhainaA: Elizabeth, do you recommend a certain Web template? I tried the one used by Aiden, but it has a lot of work, relativley for students to do..
ElizabethH: I think Netscape Composer is easy, as it is WYSIWYG, and it's free.
MichaelDK: Well, shall we move on to the next samples of online resources?
ShuniI: Listening to Elizabeth.
TeresaD: yes, michael
AntoniaM: I'm ready Micheal!:)
ElizabethH: Once you make a few pages in Composer, you can use them over and over as "templates."
DafneG: yes
MichaelDK: I'll briefly describe before you take off again.
ButhainaA: but, we don't use a lot in Kuwait , lately, elizabeth..neither in our c-lab
SusanneN: For a good blog with images I recommend  www.tabulas.com
SusanneN: Ok, ready for next stop, in Michael, s page
GeorginaN: thankyou
MichaelDK: #3 is a Web activity that derives from your March reading
TeresaD listens to michael
MichaelDK: You've likely heard of hotlists and treasure hunts and WebQuests
BabiC: yes
AntoniaM: Uh, uh,
GeorginaN: yes
MariaJ: yes
EvaW nods
KarenGar nods
MichaelDK: These are Web activities that  I think make excellent use of the Internet
ButhainaA: yes, michael
MichaelDK: They could be hard to design on your own.
MichaelDK: So I've given examples that were designed with 'click n build' resources
AntoniaM: Ye s& time consuming, i have so little (time!)
MichaelDK: You enter content and WEb pages are built for you.
MichaelDK: Teresa took an online class with me
IsabelP: yes it's very time consuming specially webquests
KarenGar: where, where??
BabiC: is it Filamentality?
MichaelDK: We built these types of activities using Filamentality
AntoniaM: sounds great micheal!
TeresaD: i was going to say that i used them during your course
MichaelDK: Have a look at the samples in #3 and you'll get an idea how to use this resource.
ButhainaA: Michael they are time really time consuming, you are very good to accomplish this work, I have plenty of incomplete work of most of them..
KarenGar: a treasure hunt?
MichaelDK: #4 is a way to post student writing with click 'n build
MichaelDK: and #5 isQuia, the whiz bang of all online activity creators in my book.
SusanneN looks at #3 and #4 and willbe back soon
MichaelDK: So, go have a look and we'll convene in 10-15 minutes.
LeahS: Okay, got it
GeorginaN: right
EvaW goes off hunting treasures
ButhainaA: oh, thanks, Michael, this is a good way for us to follow from the tapped in transcript later.
AntoniaM: F f prej is quite blog-like or forum-like?
RenataS: back at 5:50
SusanneN asks for a quick cup of coffee
RenataS smiles
AgataZ: Quia is not free, right? How about the Project Poster?
MichaelDK sighs and wants caffeine too.
MichaelDK: Poster is free
KarenGar: where, where???
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AgataZ eats chocolates
MichaelDK: Quia can be shared by many teachers
AntoniaM: have a coffee sweet micheal, I'm addicted to them!
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MichaelDK grabs one and gobbles
BabiC: where's Project Poster?

Exercises created by different participants

TeresaD: this sampler template is what i used to create my simple 'visiting kenya' exercise
MichaelDK: That's a great one--Teresa,  wish I had your url for it to post.
TeresaD: just a sec, mike
ElizabethH . o O ( pours Sus some caffe )
MichaelDK: Wish I had your url Teresa to post your  sampler.
LeahS: I'm sorry, I can't scroll back to get the URL, what is it again?
BabiC: Oh, I got it.
MichaelDK: Wish I had your URL to post your Sampler Teresa.
AntoniaM: Filamentality loks fascinating! never heard of it before...but I don't know much :)
MichaelDK: http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/evonline2004/onlinematerials.html
LeahS: thanks...see you
TeresaD: let's see if this tiny url works, mike
TeresaD: http://tinyurl.com/36nyr
GregK: Michael, I'm wondering if Poster Project or Quia tools could also be used by students to create the CC and Hatchet exercises, a simpler alternative for students who are not actually in a "computer applications" ESL class?
MichaelDK: Good question Greg
MichaelDK smiles
GregK: ;-)
ButhainaA: Teresa can we see Kenya's URL, please?
TeresaD: http://tinyurl.com/36nyr
TeresaD: i think the tiny url works, buth
MichaelDK: Yes, PP could be used, though links would come at end of  text.
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MichaelDK: Quia too could be used, the Class Pages feature.  Again, links would be at end, unless you showed students how to add them elsewhere with html
TeresaD: does it open, buth?
GregK: hmm. not as good at end of text.
ButhainaA: Michael, where can we create Hatchet, please/
ElizabethH: The problem with Filamentality as in these examples is that the teacher does all the work. It would be nice to have the students do them after seeing an example.
TeresaD: buth, did the tiny url work?
ButhainaA: one sec Tere, plz
TeresaD: ok
KarenGar: Is there an url for Quia?
MichaelDK: Hatchet needs some Web skills - students use my templates and a Web editor.
ButhainaA: Yes, perfect Tere thanks
EvaW: didn't work here
EvaW: ok, I'll try again
SusanneN agree with Eliza
ElizabethH: Michael--where do students write their answers to your questions? A Word doc, or?
AgataZ: nor here
ButhainaA: but where do you create it Michael?
TeresaD: just a sec. i'll give you the looong url
TeresaD: http://web.archive.org/web/20021221183755/http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/fil/pages/samtravellite.html
ButhainaA: what do you use,Michael?
MichaelDK: THe Prejudice Sampler contains email fields--they are emailed to me
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AntoniaM: Lovely stuff terre!
TeresaD: i got it at the internet archive. it's no longer up
KarenGar: http://www.quia.com/web
SaraMa: I guess Filamentality allows forms usage to answer questions
EvaW: sorry, I can't click the URL
EvaW: something wrong here...
ElizabethH . o O ( nods )
BabiC: it works for me. cool.
TeresaD: eva, try it when you get the log, ok?  :-)
MichaelDK: But they could use Word and email as attachment or whatever.
ElizabethH: Eva--be patient--it takes a little time to open.
MichaelDK: Your point about students doing thework is great.
MichaelDK: That's why I put up the Quia example page made by a student.
EvaW: no it works, typo....
AntoniaM: Oh & filamentality has loads of stuff to see created by teachers..!
MichaelDK: And students could use Filamentality too.
EvaW o O (should be more patient)
TeresaD: yes, antonia
RenataS: back, wow this is great
RenataS: i love the monkeys
ButhainaA: Tere, I remembered your Filamentality, yes , it is very impressive..how long does it take Tere, to comlete it/
TeresaD: i don't remember, buth.  :-(
TeresaD: not at all
BabiC: you wanna see mine?
SaraMa: One silly question. Does filamentality allow you to have the activities hosted t your own server?
ElizabethH: So Filamentality has the e-mail forms too?
AntoniaM: i like 'surch & lurch' - that's me!
TeresaD: i don't think so, sara
ButhainaA: np, Tere
MichaelDK: No, Fil. pages are hosted on their server--
MichaelDK: I guess you could ask permission to host a page you make on your own.
TeresaD: mike, do you think i can create a link to the internet archive URL?
ButhainaA: Yes, please BabiC
TeresaD: shouldn't be any problem, right???
AntoniaM: Is fil a bit like geocities...they have student projects...?
MichaelDK: No, Fil. doesn't have email forms.  I tweaked the Prejudice Sampler.
ElizabethH: Copy and paste the HTML into Composer and upload to your own site?
DafneG: I like the monkey lesson
ElizabethH . o O ( good going, MK! )
DafneG: had never heard of monkey bread
MichaelDK: No problem that I can see Teresa
ButhainaA: Vance did very useful projects with Filamentality for his UAE students last summer
TeresaD: that's what i'm going to do, mike
IsabelP: You can save it and upload it to your site Sara
BabiC: I have two at my site, but I didn't make them with Fil. I found it too complicated... :-) Simple is comlicated for me :-))) The address is: http://invitel.hu/ecsibi/
SaraMa: But is it free (Fil) or do you have to pay as in quia?
MichaelDK: Fil is free.
ElizabethH: May I copy your code for the e-mailer, Michael?
IsabelP: it's not a problem as it is not server dependent
ShuniI: I always preferred Filamentality to Webquests.
SaraMa: Yes, now I heard forms were not part of the process but Michael's addon I guess you can have it anywhere
KarenGar . o O ( humm )
RenataS: michael you have made an impressive selection of expamles
MichaelDK: With Fil, you can make Hotlist, Sampler, Tr. Hunt or WebQuest
DafneG: so many things to see, and links to explore
RenataS: thank  you
SaraMa: Eliz the emailer uses server cgi
TeresaD: absolutely! lots of homework ;-)
SaraMa: Or doesn't it Michael?
RenataS: i wonder how much your summer courses cost.....
MichaelDK: Mailer code I got from IT here on campus.  Just inserted it in form fields within my Web editor.
MichaelDK: yes, it's a cgi script
ElizabethH: Csibi--I love the Pirate Quest--and it would be neat to then see Pirates of the Caribbean
SaraMa: But it points at a form mail cgi Iguess, hosted at campus server
MichaelDK: All materials from the online course I teach are available --you don't have to take the course
BabiC: Eli, sorry, THAT's the only link that disappeared from the web. I'm working on it.
DafneG: with bravenet you can get e-mail forms on your web page
MichaelDK: Also, before you leave, have a look at the ESL Independent Study Lab in additional resources section.
IsabelP: thanks Michael
MichaelDK: It's a hobby of mine and I love people to use it.
SusanneN: Micheal, your Open Course content model is similar to what they do at MIT
SaraMa: Michael have you taught Action Mazes at your courses. I'm highly interested in that
MichaelDK: Yes, I've done action mazes
MichaelDK: Do you know Quandary
MichaelDK: Same author as Hot Potatoes
SaraMa: yes, I'm a teacher trainer too and I've used it with teachers attending courses
MariaJ: Yes, Michael, but I hve never used it...
DafneG: Quandary is wonderful, too
MichaelDK: Here's a page on how students can use Quandary along with some cool things they produced.
EvaW: is it also free as HotPot?
SaraMa: They've created some good ones, in a collaborative way with Quandary
FernandaR joined the room.
MichaelDK: But Quandary costs $50.
MichaelDK: Let me get the URL quick.
SaraMa: But it's free with less than 12 decision points
DafneG: hi Fernanda
ElizabethH . o O ( thanks, Daf--just started building my bravenet page! )
FernandaR: I'm sorry... i forgot about the session... it was dinner time
MariaJ: so, it is not too expensive....but, they have a demo, isn't it?
SusanneN looks at the INdependent study lab  -for a person like myself, that's a perfect name
RenataS: is the fifty dollars once for forever, or renewable subscription
MichaelDK: http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/quandarytasks/home.html
SaraMa: We used a free version and each teacher created a bit of a huge action maze
DafneG: I think Fernanda has worked with Quandary, right, Fern?
MichaelDK: That's student's Quandary Projects plus lessons on how to do it.
LeahS: thank you
FernandaR: no, not really... it is in my plans to try it, but I never did
GeorginaN: great
SaraMa: I'm posting some links for you to see my teacher-students' work...
MichaelDK: Here's Independent Study Lab URL
MichaelDK: http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/toppicks/toppicks.html
DafneG: someone has a Thaksgiving quandary which is really good
MariaJ: Yes, I saw that... it is very good
ElizabethH: I just was thinking about how to do a jumbled paragraph with Quandry--Sara--you did one already?
DafneG: mabye Glennis
FernandaR: I created a  web adventure that I think could be done with quandary, but  I used dreamweaver to do it
MichaelDK: Sara--collaborative project with Quandary sounds cool
SaraMa: http://www.terra.es/personal6/jjflorido/materialasist/ghosttown.htm
ShuniI: toppicks/toppicks.html
RenataS: if i make an activity in hot potatoes or quandary is it only to be used online?
AntoniaM: The Study Lab looks very comprehensive...
ElizabethH: Yes, Glenys
SaraMa: That's the first one we created
RenataS: not all  my students have web access
FernandaR: mine is about thanksgiving
DafneG: HP can be taken to CD, renata
BabiC: you can print hotpot activities too
RenataS: can i make things to be printed out and done with a pencil?
SaraMa: And this year it was a new one...http://www.elrebumbio.org/lostintime/lost.htm
FionaL: HI
MichaelDK: These resources are all making activities that end up online.
SaraMa: Each teacher created a bit and I put them together
MichaelDK: Here's a page that includes some good resources to make paper based activities.
BabiC: But Hot Potatoes activities can be printed!
AntoniaM: Renata i could send you links for printables if you like...:)
MichaelDK: http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/call/webtraining.html
RenataS: ph thank you michale i would appreciate a tip like that
SusanneN think Michale has another page to show
TeresaD: great projects, sara  :-)
MariaJ: wow.... it is good!
IsabelP: We'll see some printable activities on wednesday Renata
RenataS: yes pls antonia
SaraMa: It was great fun. but i'm always looking for new ideas to use action mazes...
RenataS: i c ty isable
LeahS: great, looking forward to that, too
SusanneN: Oh yes, Isabel, your session is next!
ElizabethH: Loved the GhostTown, Sara
RenataS: sorry for the typos
SaraMa: Thanks Eliz...it was just an experiment
ButhainaA: Very nice Sara, liked your Quandary
AntoniaM: ok renata, wot's yr e-mail or i'll find it through the BAW page?
MichaelDK: I appreciate all the resources you're putting up.  Will have to check them out when I can read the transcript.
ButhainaA: I have created one on first aid but can't find it..
MichaelDK: Are 50+ year old eyes slower than 20's?
MichaelDK blinks and rubs his eyes
TeresaD: probably, mike  ;-)
JeanMC: I am so amazed to see how many possibilities we have for creating activities online and outline with the use of tehcnology
SaraMa: I'm a great fan of Michael anyway. Always link his work for people attending my courses. Hope you don't mind Michael
DafneG: mine are working fine
SusanneN: Michael, you can copy the chat to  pasteboard and stop the wild scroll
FionaL: I have to go to work now, thanks Michael for the wonderful presentation and materials-  they show me how much I can  learn and how fun learing can be, I remember looking at your pages in awe when I was stuying Call as part of my MA, so it  really a pleasure to be able to participate in uour chat presentation chat today  Thanks again
MichaelDK: Thanks Sara--I'd love to see URL's for your courses.
MichaelDK: Where are you?
FernandaR: this is the activity about Thanksgiving, if you're interested: http://www.prof2000.pt/users/estante/web_adventures/thanksgiving/index.html
TeresaD: i remember this now, fern. it's great!
DafneG: bye Fiona, thanks for coming
JeanMC: but I am worried about the fact that so many of our colleagues don't know that and don't think technology can help them to offer new pedagogy
SaraMa: still translating them...they're in Spanish yet (day is so short!!!)
FionaL left the room (signed off).
MichaelDK: Bye Fiona
FernandaR: thanks, Teresa
SusanneN: Yes, Jean Michel,, that is another story, we're among early adopters but what about the turtles
DafneG: we need to keep preaching
TeresaD: so now you all understand how motivated i was during michael's course  :-)))
SusanneN: preaching, and being such marvellous examples
SusanneN: lol
SaraMa: You've given us such a great amount of information Michael!! Thanks indeed.
LuisaRo: Fernanda, you are very good!
MichaelDK: Teresa, just started up a session today
MichaelDK: I still like teaching it--30 Russians are joining us!
AntoniaM: thanks so very much micheal, very exciting1
TeresaD: great, mike! good luck once again!
ElizabethH: Are we looking at #4 now?
SusanneN: teresa, I have heard you mention Michael's course from the very first time we met I think
TeresaD: wow, mike. very interesting!
DafneG: that's right, Sus

The 'Thank you' and 'Goodbye' phase

IsabelP: Thanks Michael, I've learnt quite a lot of things today
TeresaD: for sure, sus
MichaelDK: Thanks to all.  I don't have a class so can hang around if you like.
MichaelDK: Thanks for allyour input everyone.
GeorginaN: how much does Quia cost out of interest?
DafneG: this is a chatlog to keep in our treasure chest
MichaelDK: $49 but teachers can share an account
GeorginaN: ok thanks
JeanMC: THANKS Michael. In french: "CHAPEAU!....:)"
ElizabethH: the Project Poster looks grat, and it's free
ButhainaA: Fernanda, I've bookmarked your Thanksgiving, it's great
MichaelDK: That's me talking, not theQuia people.
TeresaD: it sure is, daf!
DafneG: lol
BabiC: Me too, me too! Thanks so much, Michael. I've learnt a lot.
FernandaR: thanks, Buth
MichaelDK: Great!
ElizabethH: Many thanks, MK
MichaelDK: Glad you could join us.
SusanneN: I need to prepare for another workshop session in 50 minutes so I need to say goodbye for now, I really enjoyed it although I've stayed a a little in teh background as a helping hand and observer! Your pages are remarkably interesting, Michael, thanks for showing us around!
LuisaRo: Thanks, Michael
LeahS: Thank you
GeorginaN: can Word be used for webpage creation as well?
TeresaD applauds michael's great pres.
JeanMC: Bye Sus
SaraMa: Great and beautifully designed thanksgiving activity Fern! I'll be linking it at my site today!
MichaelDK: yes, word can be used
MariaJ: Word...... better another one....
BabiC: yes, Georgina
DafneG stands and applauds
KarenGar: I am very impressed with how many resources there are,,, can we summarize into a taxonomy/classification with tips
GregK . o O ( looking for the applause button....   smiles )
MichaelDK: But Web editors make better pages.
SaraMa clapping hands noisily
GeorginaN: ok
EvaW: thanks Michael
JeanMC applauds
MichaelDK: smiles at Greg and wonders what he's really thinking
ShuniI: Thank you, Michael.
EvaW waves good bye to everyone and goes off to bed
MichaelDK waves as well
ButhainaA: Michael can I link to your Webpage from a page where I am collecting resources for teachers and students, please?
DafneG: Thanks a lot Michael this has been a very resourceful session :-)
RenataS: thank you michael, gnite eva
TeresaD: and thanks mike for having two groups togethere, baw and reo. what a nice experience!
BabiC: closes her eyes and starts snoring...
EvaW left the room (signed off).
LeahS: Goodbye, thanks
MichaelDK: Sur
SusanneN Karen, you're welcome to summarize anything you like
MariaJ: Thanks Michael
RenataS: bye leah catch u later
GeorginaN: thanks for the session and your guiding hand Theresa
LeahS left the room (signed off).
ElizabethH mucho applause
MichaelDK: Teresa, can I link to this transcript?
AntoniaM: LOL!
DafneG: sure, Michael
MichaelDK: Thought I'd add it to the Web page.
SusanneN: I think Teresa will put it up on our homepage, but it will also come to your mailbox
DafneG: our pleasure
JeanMC: Dafne, esto era verdaderamente muy chevere
TeresaD: eliz., i'm gald that you and your reo participants enjoyed the session! great collaborative spirit, isn't it?
TeresaD: of course, mike
GeorginaN: your pages are a wonderful resounrce  Michael, thanks so much
MichaelDK: You bet.
AntoniaM: Oh I meant that for renata, i'm not laughing at you Mike though i loved your presentation, very enthusing!
MichaelDK: and que es chevere?
DafneG: cool
DafneG: in spanish
BabiC left the room (signed off).
MichaelDK: gracias
JeanMC: marvellous, wonderful
ButhainaA: michael? can I add your webpage as a resource on this page please: http://alothman-b.tripod.com/090_links.htm
TeresaD: isn't this a fantastic group, mike?
MichaelDK: sure
IsabelP: muchas gracias michael
MichaelDK: yes, so accepting.
MichaelDK: I was a little at sea in this environment
DafneG: eager to learn
SusanneN: I'm going to blog aboutr your session at www.xanga.com/susnyrop
MichaelDK: thanks
AntoniaM: Mike where in the world are you? is it late ? cold? hot ?
ButhainaA: Thanks, Michael
IsabelP: Well I'll see you next wednesday I suppose I must come, :-)
RenataS: you weren't the only one michael,
RenataS: ;)
ShuniI left the room.
MariaJ: lol
MichaelDK: Portland oregon, mild and time for a late lunch
ElizabethH: Michael--you did great--no problem
DafneG: I think you should be around, Isabel :-)
RenataS: but you have made it worthwhile not giving up
TeresaD: well, michael, a very warm thank you from us all for such a great presentation. i will keep in touch
SaraMa: Don't miss Isabel's presentation!!!
RenataS: thank you
GregK: Michael, great job of multi-tasking!   Well structured - you got us through it!
SaraMa: Her work is a must
TeresaD: isabel, see you on wednesday!
IsabelP: thanks sara
IsabelP: see you
MichaelDK: Thanks Teresa and you take care!  I love keeping in touch with you!
GeorginaN: is that presentation for B a webhead?
MichaelDK: Thanks Greg.
DafneG: Have a nice late lunch, Michael
TeresaD: me too. will you be in LB?
TeresaD: i will
DafneG: yes, Georgina
RenataS: i have one suggestion
ElizabethH: Michael--Vance Stevens is looking for an article for TESL-EJ, on using the Internet. I bet he would love to have a write up of your projects.  I'll have him write to you.
RenataS: about the structuring
ButhainaA: Oh, WOW, thanks Michael, gave great ideas.i know waht to do for this and next semster already, thanks for the inspirastion Michael, : - )
RenataS: which was really good
AntoniaM: thanks micheal, it wads great & I'lm sure i'll use some of the stuff in my teaching!
MichaelDK: OK thanks all
RenataS: if you give a clock time then we know when to be back...
TeresaD: mike, will you be in LB?
SaraMa: thanks indeed Michael. Great presentation...lots of homework to do after this!
RenataS: rather than saying in ten minuts
TeresaD: than 'you'!
RenataS: ....:)
MichaelDK: LB?
ElizabethH: Renata--on the Mac I can set a little alarm myself--look on your computer for something?
DafneG: we have different times, renata
RenataS: aha
ElizabethH: Long Beach TESOL Convention
GeorginaN: different times all over the world Renata
AntoniaM: Have a good day, im off to jantar - supper here in portugal!:)
RenataS: yes but theminutes are the same???
MichaelDK: No, it's a long story.  No funding
RenataS: aren't they?
TeresaD: what a shame!
SusanneN: Renata - sessions  are not always the same, and our clocks are not same either - no, not in Australia, for example
DafneG: oh, same story with me, Michael, :-(
ElizabethH: yes they are, Renata, but TI doesn't have an alarm clock
TeresaD: i was hoping to meet you again  :-(
IsabelP: I'll take your suggestion Renata
IsabelP: Bye Bye
TeresaD: bye, isabel
MichaelDK: I'm surprised we have any international students in the US of A now at all with the "attitude" if you know what I mean!
RenataS: ok, sorry for suggesting
LuisaRo: Bye, everybody . thanks!
SusanneN hands an egg timer to dear Renata
TeresaD: bye, luisa
RenataS: i will get a stopwatch now i know it is a problem for me
ButhainaA: And me, Michael for the second time now
ElizabethH: Some ELIs are closing, I hear.
MichaelDK: You bet.
RenataS: goodbyue and thank you
GeorginaN: Renata don't you have a clock on the bottom of yur computer
ElizabethH: You just need long-range planning.
LuisaRo left the room (signed off).
RenataS left the room (signed off).
ElizabethH: CSUS is working on online courses--cheaper for students and no travel headaches.
ButhainaA: I got funding from outside my institution
MichaelDK: And an administration that wants international students on campus
GregK: Time for you to get that cup of coffee.... tea rather.  I've got to go.  "Hello" to all at LC.  See you soon.
ElizabethH: that esp.
DafneG: by Greg
TeresaD: bye, greg
MichaelDK: Ciao Greg!
ElizabethH: Bye, bye--off to late lunch here too--good to see all you Webheads!
TeresaD: bye, eliz
SusanneN: great for you, Buth
DafneG: bye Elizabeth
MichaelDK: Guess I had better get some work done.
GregK left the room (signed off).
SaraMa: Bye Eliz
GeorginaN: breakfast here in Oz cya
ElizabethH: CYA
ButhainaA: Elizabeth, i have updated the web page, and I think it's much better now.
TeresaD: as if you haven't been working, mike!  ;-)
DafneG: yes, Michael, go ahead, thanks again for your time and patience
ButhainaA: thanks Sus
MichaelDK: Email me if you have any questions: krauss@lclark.edu
ElizabethH: Thanks, Buth. I will be linking Michael's pages in Academic Writing
MichaelDK: By all.  I really enjoyed it!
GeorginaN: thanks for your time
ElizabethH: Michael--you are welcome to join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/academic_writing
TeresaD: it was great! i knew everybody would love this pres. based on my own experience, mike
ButhainaA: ok, cool, Elizabeth, good idea
ElizabethH: You can let your students use the exercises if you wish.
MichaelDK michael moves to grade the essays sitting on this desk.
ButhainaA: And sahll link mine elizabeth?
TeresaD: have fun, mike!
MichaelDK left the room (signed off).
ElizabethH: yes, Buth, TY
ButhainaA: yes, right elozabeth, i don't have time to create new activities ..
GeorginaN left the room (signed off).
SaraMa: See you all...dinner time here!!
ButhainaA: Elizabeth, sory for the spelling
TeresaD: bye sara!
ElizabethH left the room (signed off).
TeresaD: enjoy carnival!
DafneG: bye sara
JeanMC: bye all. Time to do more things before night comes
TeresaD: bye, jm. nice to have you with us  :-)
DafneG: bye, Jm thanks for being with us, as usual
JeanMC: un abrazo para los hispano-lusoparlantes
ButhainaA: Bye everyone, and thanks Mchael and the BaW moderators for providing this gtrerat sesion
DafneG hugs JM back
TeresaD: thanks for being here, buth
ButhainaA: goodnight, it's 12:30 am, in Kuwait
DafneG: thansk buth
KarenGar: my time to go..... too
DafneG: thanks for coming Karen
KarenGar: more catching up to do
JeanMC left the room (signed off).
ButhainaA: you're welcome Tere, Daf..
ButhainaA: bye ..
KarenGar . o O ( have to figure the blogs )
DafneG: bye
TeresaD: bye karen
KarenGar: bye
KarenGar: thanks for the opportunity
DafneG: bye Buth
ButhainaA left the room (signed off).
KarenGar: th let me see where is the logout
SaraMa left the room (signed off).
KarenGar left the room (signed off).
MariaJ: bye
DafneG: bye, Maria, good luck with your mic
TeresaD: bye, maria
SusanneN waves goodbye and flies away
MariaJ left the room (signed off).
TeresaD: bye sus
SusanneN left the room (signed off).
TeresaD: well, the family is calling me for a late dinner. have to go!
DafneG: bye Tere, see you
FernandaR: I have to take some pills for my memory... will you include the file in your website?
TeresaD: bye friends. see you on wednesday, if not before!
TeresaD: sure, fern
DafneG: yes, Fern, on the usual page
FernandaR: ok, see you !
TeresaD: chat logs page
FernandaR left the room (signed off).
TeresaD: bye! a juicy steak awaits me! what a nice husband i have!  :-)
DafneG: oh
DafneG: yummy yummy
DafneG: enjoy dinner
TeresaD: he made dinner wjile i was here
TeresaD: while
TeresaD: bye!
DafneG: bye, dear
DafneG: I am leaving too
TeresaD left the room (signed off).

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