| David Jay Jordan's Effeminate 'John' Scriptures Allow me to post some scriptural references to possibly back up what I said concerning John as being effeminate. For as we know, there is neither male nor female in Christ Jesus. So consequently Jesus doesn't shun anyone no matter what their orientation as long as their heart is right. (SEE Can Gays be Christians) Whether women are masculine or whether men seem to be effeminate it matters NOT with the Lord. For He didn't follow the rules of the world, and associated with publicans, and tax collectors, and consorted with prostitutes and what the world called 'low class uneducated types' including a bunch of dumb fisherman who certainly had numerous sins. Peter and his fisherman like today might be considered the macho men and the rude and crude, which is of course what Peter often did. Peter definitely in scripture after scripture had both a problem with women and with the young teenage John. Peter according to the following scriptures definitely didn't appreciate how close was John was to JESUS. He literally was clinging to him even at the LAST SUPPER. For while the other three were battling at who would be the greatest in heaven, John, the effeminate teenage disciple was hanging on to Jesus. And he became one of the greatest disciples that went on even further than Peter and even Paul. For it was John that got Revelations and probably the greatest and most important BOOK of the BIBLE for those of us in the END-TIME. So here's what the actual Biblical scriptures in JOHN"S BOOK itself records. ****************************** ""Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, (This is John clinging and hugging Jesus----knowing His Lord was about to leave Him)and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? Jhn 21:21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? (Peter obviously looking at John rather than the Lord) John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee? follow thou me. (Jesus rebuked peter and said "Just follow me and don't be concerned so much about what other disciples do. Don't fight among yourselves and compare yourselves with yourselves, just FEED my sheep and follow me according to your own faith) Jhn 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: (in a sense John was hard to kill because they couldn't boil him in oil and therefore exiled him to the isle of Patmos so that Jesus could give him the Book of Revelations) yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? Jhn 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, (In other words, John is saying the teenager that was clinging to JESUS was him.) and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. (YES John was a great disciple even though he appeared effeminate to Peter and it was John who wrote in the BOOK of John the most words that Jesus spoke, the most important Salvation and Gospel Book in the Bible.) Jhn 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did,(many, many other things as John knew, but he just kept it simple, in this case for the basic beginners) the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. ************************************ Amen as there are literally dozens of esoteric or hidden scriptures that weren't allowed by the church fathers that had organized into a formalized church later on. But it matters not because there is definitely enough scriptures in the generally accepted Bible to absolutely show that the apostles had their sins and one of them was not having the faith for either women or effeminate teenagers. Meaning the older ones, like Peter hadn't been perfected yet (of course not) but still did a great job for the Lord despite their sins and shortcomings. Nevertheless the women who followed the Lord and the youth, and the effeminate ones like John, can do great and mighty things for the Lord if they just have FAITH. For John even received the Book of Revelation. So what we look like on the outside matters not to the Lord, but what's in our heart . . . . does ! In my opinion and according to scriptures (right in the Bible) Jay (Jordan Fisherman) Also compare How many sexes are there Comments welcome at Davidjayjordan@yahoo.com or postings on our Discussion Board Here |