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 Week 1

8.  AUDIO

 

Ahhh, Michael has spotted the flaw in the ointment in my technique below. In fact, a colleague of mine used to use this technique to record streaming media, radio broadcasts I think (for one-off use in ESL classes).
If you want to speak into the computer in question, you could either do so through a second computer patched into the conference (with a second Yahoo logon), or get a bifurcating adaptor (it has two female inputs on one side and a male output on the other, used in fact to channel two stereo wires into the one input jack on your computer.)
I've never tried the techniques in the last paragraph, just imagining a solution.

Vance

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Dear Vance 'n All,
Is Real Producer the same as Real One player which I think I got with ME? I have got something clled Nero burn. Can I do the sound file production as easily with either of those or is Real producer 4.3 mb the tool for the job? I'ld never work it out otherwise. I've loaded Doodle thing onto my website; It took a couple of minutes.
http://www.garethhowell.net/englearn.html
Thanking you,
Cheerio, Gar

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Hello Gar,

Real Producer and Real One Player are two different tools. If you need to download files from the internet (ie listen to an audio file or watch video clips), real one player usually does the job, it works like Windows media player. Real producer on the other hand, works like an editing machine and is recommended to be used when uploading avi files (video) to your hard disk. Real producer allows you to convert your original avi files to real media files, which will then allow you to view your video on the internet. The only hitch in doing this kind of conversion is that you wont be able to get the same quality as your avi file. The higher the resolution the higher the speed connection and top-notch real producer would do the trick. You don't usually get the goodies on freebies. However, my free G2 Real player (the older version) did just fine. To better understand what i'm talking about click on this link: http://www.oocities.org/aidenyeh/nkfust/nkfust_video/nkfust_video.html
The quality isn't that good, but if you're going to look at CNN or BBC's video clips, I honestly think, that what i've got isn't really that bad.
Hope this helps,
aiden yeh
p.s.
the links on that page may be a little screwed up, and I've really got to work on them- so, please ignore the glitches.

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Real One Player is a tool for playing media off the Internet, and Real Producer is a tool for recording sound and video and compressing it for use on the Internet. Because it's a compression tool it can also convert big files to little ones. The player is free but I think the recorder is not (is it?). Another good recorder is Windows Media Encoder.
There's more on mounting media on your web pages here
http://www.oocities.org/vance_stevens//papers/evonline2002/week6.htm#realmedia
and more information on using Real Producer here
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/tutorials/realproducer.htm
Vance

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Hi everyone,

So... "Real Producer" could be the equivalent to "Audacity", or the Nero editor?
Marķa

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I'm not familiar with these products. Anyone?
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about.php?lang=en
Audacity is a free audio editor. You can record sounds, play sounds, import and export WAV, AIFF, and MP3 files, and more. Use it to edit your sounds using Cut, Copy and Paste (with unlimited Undo), mix tracks together, or apply effects to your recordings. It also has a built-in amplitude envelope editor, a customizable spectrogram mode and a frequency analysis window for audio analysis applications. Built-in effects include Bass Boost, Wahwah, and Noise Removal, and it also supports VST plug-in effects.
Nero Wave Editor
http://www.nero.com/en/index.html#root
Free Demoversion: http://www.nero.com/en/content/download.html#download
Lots of complaints about it here:

http://www.vidomi.com/viewtopic.php?topic=3815&forum=5

Actually, just a further comment, Audacity looks to be a sound editing and enhancement tool; whereas the Real Producer will create streaming media, designed to play on the fly in the Real or some other compatible streaming media player. Real Producer for example gives you a checkbox during file creation asking if you want to allow users to download the file to their computer (and if not, it will only stream and can't be captured unless unscrupulous users resort to the nefarious loop cable technique mentioned in earlier emails). The Microsoft competitor to RP is Windows Media Encoder.  WME is free (not sure if RP is) and it will record streaming media files (designed for play through Windows Media Player), though I don't recall that it has many (if any?) options for saving file formats.
Vance

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