Arizona Secular Humanists Letters - ASH

2) one ash member says didnt think paul putz could write any of the letters WEvans wrote because the letters were not peppered with insults and obsenitys. i countered and said put paul putz writes the ash newsletter. and the ash newsletter is not peppered with obsenitys and insults.

3) one ash member doesnt even think paul putz writes the newsletter. he thinks john stahl writes it and paul just puts the pages together and prints it. he seems to think paul putz is just a lackey who kisses john stahls feet and does stuff for him. maybe but i actually saw paul writting the newsletter once a long time ago.

4) i talked to WEvans on the phone and he seemed like a pretty reasonable person. he had most of the same feelings about paul putz and linda chapman that i do.

and for that matter after talking to him i think i took some of the things he said in his e-mails out of context and thought things were said that were not said.

5) a couple of people said that paul could not afford to have an aol account in addition to his compuserve account. these people said paul has a very limited income, and is on the dole from the government. this is why they didnt think he was using the WEvans account to send the messages.

6-22-99 WEvan allows me to talk to him in person

6-22-99 Gender Orienter keisdue sdkksdfg asdf

6-22-99 WEvans wants to know if John Stahl is one of the boys

6-18-99 Square Dance Homosexuals???? Dont cowboys kill gays???????

7-11-99 This guys sounds dissatisfied with Linda Chapman & Paul Putz

7-11-99 Paul wants his mail. WEvans has a good Beverly Hills shrink for Mike

6-22-99 Linda says ASH aint GAY - Is she telling the truth?????

6-22-99 Paul want to know who told WEvans

6-20-99 See Echo Magazine - Maybe ASH is GAY. Should we start calling it Arizona Secular Homosexuals

6-2-99 Joann says sites OK if its for ASH as in Atheists Skeptics Heretics INC

6-3-99 Council for Secular Humanism wants to know what paul & linda are up too?

5-31-99 John P says Mike is a good president + the problem is Paul & Linda

6-3-99 G tells Joann what happened

6-2-99 These ASH members want to come to ASH-LP meeting

5-10-99 What really happened at the ASH March and April 1999 meetings.

5-30-99 has the ash treasury and membership list been hijacked???? - mike thinks so

6-4-99 This ASH member says the current ASH newsletter is a pack of lies

6-2-99 Local lawyer wants to come to ASH-LP meetings

6-1-99 Is Eric a paid board member? Paul won't tell!

6-4-99 Mike says he is still president of ARIZONA SECULAR HUMANISTS - Pauls & Linda's stuff was illegal

5-31-99 Another illegal board meeting by Paul, Linda, Eric

5-31-99 Mike says they can't have a stinking board meeting!

6-5-99 Will ASH self destruct????

5-31-99 Joann gets it from a 2nd side this time. And its a different story then Paul and Linda are telling.

6-1-99 new atheist web page - Atheists Skeptics and Heretics of Arizona

5-28-99 ash board has not given mike time schedule as required by the bylaws

5-26-99 ash in ashes

5-26-99 whats going on with ash??????

5-26-99 G's outta here if HSGP lets Paul or Linda in

5-25-99 HUH???? DUH!!!

5-24-99 Stinking meeting

5-22-99 National threatens to revoke ASH's membership if ASH doesnt get its act together!

5-20-99 Mike wants his Twenty bucks back
Note: Paul still has not paid paid Mike his twenty bucks as required?

5-20-99 Mike asks Paul if he mailed a hit letter on Mr G
Paul still has not answered Mikes e-mail!

5-20-99 Mike asks Paul for treasury report on ASH
Paul still has not answered? even though bylaws require monthly reports? Paul weasels out of it and says Mike wasnt running the meeting using Roberts Rules. _ But the Paul when he ran the meetings didnt use Roberts Rules nor did he give a treasury report then as required by ASH bylaws.

5-18-99 Another illegal ASH board meeting by the Putz and Linda

5-14-99 Mike is told to twist the sensitive parts of the anatomy

4-24-99 G stirs the pot!

4-20-99 Paul Putz says you have to check out these Libertarian and Atheist sites :)

6-1-99 G's outta here! ASH has been hijacked!

6-1-99 Mikes still ASH President. Board did't follow rules!

5-28-99 linda asks susan to come to mikes impeachment meeting

2-15-99 Mr G puts a little man pissing on ASH on the web page Look at that date 2-15-99 that was a long time before mike took office as ash president. and linda seems to think the pisser is the fault of mike being president. NOT true!

Linda K Chapman

5-6-99 Linda discovers that an angry webmaster had a man pissing on ash's name

Heres what it looked like

ASH

and this is how i feel about linda and paul after all the krap they have given me

Linda K Chapman

Paul A Putz

and while the subject is Linda Chapman and Paul Putz lets say this

5-6-99 Paul wants to throw Mike outa ASH

5-6-99 Paul wants to throw Mikes ass outa ASH - another version

5-20-99 president mike asks claudia for a list of ash members - will he get it. probably not.
Linda says he wont in one of these e-mails!

5-23-99 Linda refuses to give Mike the names even though he is legally ASH president!

5-16-99 It aint a legal board meeting if the president or vp aint running it.

5-16-99 ASH money man Paul gets testy when Mike demands report on ash cash

5-18-99 Well at least Libby has something good to say. Not even 1 hatefull message

5-22-99 El Presidente Mike forwarded the ASH mail and Paul wants it back.

5-14-99 Paul makes a motion to throw Mike out

5-19-99 Linda didnt give Mike enough notice. Is 17 hours fair? Eric got several days!

5-20-99 G tell el presidente mike some defenses

5-18-99 Paul brags about illegal ash meeting which mike thinks is illegal.

5-20-99 Did Linda, Paul, and Eric have an illegal board meeting? Mike thinks so!

5-20-99 San Diago, coffee, saterday ---- Miguel dice "Son San Diago y San Diego la misma"

5-16-99 schism - ASH-LP - ash minus linda and paul

5-18-99 why do you want to lead a bunch of dumb bells? Ok mike made a mistake!

5-19-99 I must warn you that actually I am an old geezer myself.

5-18-99 WEvans6368 has lots of inside information.

5-20-99 WEvans6368 says mike wont get a treasurors report until hell freezes over.

5-20-99 The guy says he is really paul! Mike ask paul if its true?

5-21-99 lost path to sender - and some SECRET ASH info you have to read

5-23-99 i want my report. i want my report......

5-24-99 Linda refuses to give ASH President Mike a copy of ASH mailing list with out court order

5-24-99 Another Cheep Shot by the gang of two

5-24-99 Getting money out of Paul is as fruitless as suing Joe Arpaio - someone says - Paul? Wevans???
For those of you who dont live in the Phoenix Area Sheriff Joe Arpaio claims to be the meanest sheriff in America. But if you ask any civil libertys advocate Sheriff Joe is the biggest Jerk in America and should not be constantly violating the civil rights of all the people imprisioned in his tent city jail in downtown Phoenix. Sheriff Joe and Maricopa County have a large number of lawsuits filed against them because of his inhumane treatement of the people in his jails.

5-24-99 Papad's Mint Chutney - the books and checks.

5-19-99 linda says ash has no web page - its true

My friend G S went to a lot of trouble to set up a web page just for ASH. But Linda and Paul complained about it. Since Linda and Paul didnt want the free services of G the web page has been given to a new group im starting called

Atheists Skeptics and Heretics Inc

Who's Initials are ASH. Its at Atheists Skeptics and Heretics Inc

Linda and Paul if you want you own web page go out and start it on your own!!!!!. Hey whats wrong with a little recursive behavior now and then. Nothing as long as you dynamiclly allocate the memory!

5-19-99 Linda gives Mike 17 hours notice of closed meeting. Eric got several days.

5-17-99 Mike tells Paul he not helping keep members very well!

5-13-99 Reason Claudia wants to kick mike out. Did Linda write this???

5-16-99 Linda wants to kick mike out!

5-16-99 Linda wants to kick mike out twice!

5-4-99 According to G ASH has no legal board members due to defective bylaws

5-6-99 Paul tries to kick Mike out but doesnt follow any of the rules

5-13-99 Claudia wants to vote by proxy on Mikes impeachment. - Doesn't even want to attend

Paul wants it both ways - Glen CANT resign - Art MUST resign!

5-10-99 linda doesnt answer mikes request for ash membership lists - just forwards it back

5-9-99 Paul wants to impeach Mike. But he never states why. And wants to do it secretly

12-18-98 Phoenix pigs treat linda chapman bad because she is an atheist

8-27-97 linda chapman assumes that mike uses marijuana
Yes the date is right. its 97. And maybe it cuz of that police mentality that you assume anyone with long hair is a criminal druggy who is dangerous. Linda works for the Phoenix cops.

4-25-99 Susans sick of Paul and leaving ASH for that reason

5-6-99 Paul Putz, Linda Chapman, and Claudia have a secret illegal board meeting

5-6-99 Linda wants board controlled web page

5-3-99 Humanism Sucks

5-4-99 G thinks Paul should get a life

3-6-97 Linda Chapman assumes that Mike is involved with illegal drugs. Why Linda???

5-8-99 Paul has not published required financial statements. Where is ASH money going?

Beleive it or not one of the reasons on Pauls request to kick mike out of ASH was because Mike asked Paul to give an accounting of the ASH funds on this web page. I guess if Mike asks that Paul obey the ASH bylaws whiich require a monthly reporting of the ASH funds Pauls only recourse is to request that Mike be thrown out for obeying the ASH bylaws.

5-9-99 Request to remove Paul Putz from ASH for not keeping track of ASH money

5-21-98 Paul refuses to let mike work the MAMA booth. But never quotes source of his insulting information

5-10-99 Pauls Putz's nasty behavior while working ASH booth at MAMA

5-13-99 At last the reason to kick mike out of ash - he is a libertarian and as Paul Putz has said in the past his web page has links to titty bars

4-29-99 G's angry about Paul mailing a hate mail letter to all ASH members

4-29-99 G's demands to be able to defend himself against Pauls hate mail

3-28-99 Linda thinks ASH is being shafted by US West
What religion should the Atheist ASH group be under? Baptist Atheists? Calvin Atheist? Catholic Atheists? Jewish Atheist?

4-24-99 Another illegal board meeting by the Putz and Chapman

4-28-99 Mike says he didnt make the web page Paul accused him of making!

4-11-99 Hum-Dinger of an ASH Board meeting. Roberts Rules of combat were used.

5-19-99 14 hours notice aint fair

6-5-99 Guy in UK wants ASH-LP to work! Also says thing are better in the UK.

6-4-99 See you in church!

3-12-99 Mr G didnt want to run for ASH office. Paul full of it when he says he did

5-28-99 Screw the bylaws in they get in your way of kicking out mike

5-28-99 Paul & Linda never created schedule of meeting in effort to toss out Mike

6-3-99 Switch and Bait tatic

4-6-99 John asks if ASH has insuranse to use for Atheist Protest at capital

4-14-99 Paul Putz says ASH shouldnt buy insuranse - but later shell out $250 for it

5-26-99 Do you really beleive this?

6-2-99 Look at it says BE?

3-29-99 Does Linda Chapman treat everyone in ash fairly? Good question? Linda an ex-ASH board member often sent out e-mails to all ASH members about the status of ASH. Well thats all ASH members execpt Mike - I think Linda cut me off the list over a year ago when Linda was still an ASH board member during a spew of hate mail when I wanted to help run an ASH function.

I never asked to be cut off the list. the e-mail just stopped comming. But generally other ASH members will forward the e-mails Linda sends out to me. Even though Im president of ASH linda sent this e-mail about ASH Member Ship info at MAMA to everyone but MIKE - ASH'S president. Nor did Linda send me this e-mail about Our ad misplaced in the yellow pages everyone got it but President Mike! Do pigs fly? Is Linda fair? You decide! Linda you can add me back to your e-mail list anytime you want. You know my e-mail address you have send me a few letters why you love me but still want to throw me out of ASH.

3-28-99 Linda the last place i would look for Atheists is in the Yellow pages under churches or religions

5-18-99 & 3-28-99 Linda wants it both ways. In this e-mail Linda complained that I refused to give out my phone number to the ASH board and could not be notified of the ASH meeting. thats not true! i refuse to give my phone number to Linda Chapman or Paul Putz two people whom i dont care to be bothered by But in another e-mail which Mr S forwarded me and I deleted by accident Linda said made some mention that she did not want mr s to give Mike her phone number or address because she was afraid of what would happen if i got it. (Mr S maintains the HSGP address list which linda is a member of) First Linda Mr S is a honest ethical person and wouldnt do that. Dont worry Linda I have had your phone number for a long time and nothing has happened and nothing will happen. for that matter you gave it to the whole world your phone number when you sent this E-mail on March 28, 1999. Your phone is 232-2721. I suspect your a 602 area code since you live in central/south phoenix.

Also sometime ago you gave me your phone number. i also have it in my files as 232-2371. i dont know if thats still your number because i have not called you in probably over a year and a half - probably longer.

And Linda your address is also out there in cyber space along with Paul Putz's address. If you dont want people to get this information dont put it in cyber space!

   Linda k chapman
   26 w alina
   26 w illini st #8 - from another source
   phoenix, az
   (602)232-2371
   (602)232-2721
   (602)233-2188     - from another source
   6/1/46            birthdate

103217.260@compuserve.com


   paul august putz
   2936 n 36th street #340
   3936 n 36th street #310 - from another source on the web
   phoenix, az
   85018
   (602)667-6488
   566-26-2290 SS#
   566-26-2290 Arizona Drivers License Number
   1/7/27      birthdate

103665.3310@compuserve.com

both linda chapman's and paul putz's address can be found at City of Gilbert Arizona town meeting where you guys bitched and moaned to the city leaders that america wasnt a christian nation.

7-7-99 WEvans thinks its funny that i published paul & lindas address

6-18-99 Is ASH GAY

3-30-99 paul sez 'protect privacy'. pirvacy my ass! - sounds like a smoke screen!

6-22-99 Stiring up the crap to make it smell bad says WEvans

06-17-99 WEvans couldnt come to ash meeting

3-29-99 Paul cant express himself calmly!!!!!!

6-22-99 Law Order Income Expenses Secrets Linda

6-24-99 Eric DONT!!!

6-26-99 Is John Stahl one of your boys? I am not imagining.

6-26-99 INSTEAD OF PROOF READING, I COULD VOLUNTERER MY SERVICES BY PROVIDING

6-26-99 Sexuality and orientation should not be a negative.

6-26-99 ASH as a "gay founded" organization.