Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:06:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
Subject: FC: AOL bars delivery of news article about FBI and "porn"
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<headers snipped> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:06:42 -0500 From: Matthew Gaylor <freematt@COIL.COM> Subject: Clinton & Gore Vow To Fight The Establishment On Crypto (Yeah Right) To: CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM

[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Professor Dave Farber is the new chief technologist at the FCC and was present for Clinton's recent Internet security meeting. Read point number 4 and then read Declan McCullagh's article on Louie Freeh's request for more tax dollars to fight online drug smugglers, child pornographers, spies, and terrorists. Am I the only one to think Clinton speaks out of both sides of his mouth?]

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 05:27:25 -0500 From: Dave Farber <farber@cis.upenn.edu> Subject: IP: Clintons security meeting

I was there with my UPenn hat on. It was a very open meeting with some relatively frank discussions. I will try to report more fully latter today but:

1. there were but two academics incl myself about 30 people total

2.the network was, at least this time, not a problem. It was insecure computer systems and software. The use of commodity systems for critical tasks was one of the root causes as was lack of security hygiene (safe computing)

3. the industrial players committed to establish a sharing of attack information

4. the President in response to a private question re crypto said to me that he and Al had fought and would continue to fight the government establishment (I assume FBI and Intelligence) to open it up.

It was a very enlightening and useful meeting for me and for I hope others.

More latter

Dave

ps the President is a fast thinker

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:01:36 -0500 To: cryptography@c2.net From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> Subject: Freeh says DoS attacks require FBI access to plaintext

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34388,00.html

Everything Hacked but the Budget by Declan McCullagh (declan@wired.com)

1:15 p.m. 16.Feb.2000 PST Justice Department and FBI officials Wednesday told a Senate panel that last week's denial of service attacks provide ample reason to give law enforcement bigger budgets and additional powers.

[...]

Repeating a long-standing theme, he said data-scrambling encryption products posed a real danger to police, who needed access to descrambled documents or communications.

During previous appearances on Capitol Hill, Freeh has warned of drug smugglers, child pornographers, spies, and terrorists cloaking their communications with impunity.

Now he said hackers, such as the ones responsible for the denial of service attacks, could encrypt their files and make the evidence "all but worthless to us."

"Without the ability of law enforcement to get court-ordered access to plaintext, we're going to be out of business," Freeh said. "If it is unaddressed, we're not going to [be able to] work in many of these areas."

He said that the FBI is finding more and more cases -- including 53 last year -- in which suspects are using encryption products like PGP to shield their files.

[...snip...]


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