Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:30:24 -0500 (EST) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #5 To: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu
TELECOM Digest Wed, 1 Mar 0 16:45:21 EST Volume 20 : Issue 5
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Re: DoubleClick Looks to Regain Surfers' Trust (Hahn, Ki Suk) Re: DoubleClick Looks to Regain Surfers' Trust (Douglas Dunlop) Re: 7D Dialing Across NPA Boundaries (Blake Droke) Re: Long Lines Bells (Dean Forrest Wright) Re: Long Lines Bells (Fred Goodwin) NXX by NPA (Robert M. Bryant) Your Wireless Phone/Laptop Experience (lorent@point.com) Wireless Extensions (George Yanos) Amazon's Market Conversation (Monty Solomon)
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From: Hahn, Ki Suk <kshahn@datalogics.com> Subject: Re: DoubleClick Looks to Regain Surfers' Trust Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:14:11 -0600
>From: jmaddaus@NO_SPAM.usa.net (John S. Maddaus) > Subject: Re: DoubleClick Looks to Regain Surfers' Trust > Reply-To: jmaddaus@NO_SPAM.usa.net > Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:09:01 GMT > Organization: AT&T Worldnet
> Which is why I have my browser set to accept only cookies that get
> sent back to the originating server and to warn me before accepting
> any cookies. I always manually reject cookies that are associated
> with advertising and regularly clear both cache and cookies from my
> machine using a batch file I picked off of either Tucows or Zdnet
> (can't remember which). [...]
I've set my Netscape cookies.txt file to read-only as was suggested here some time ago and this works ok. But the IE 4.72... that I sometimes use has a folder that contains these cookies. (NT's windows\profiles\username\cookies folder with files named username@domain.txt <mailto:username@domain.txt> ) I've tried to set this folder to read-only but that permission gets changed back. Is there any way to make it stick?
Ki Suk Hahn
From: Douglas Dunlop <ddunlop@nortelnetworks.com> Subject: Re: DoubleClick Looks to Regain Surfers' Trust Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:11:18 -0500
Rather than bother with manually accepting and rejecting cookies, I set Netscape to accept all cookies. I also deleted everything below the "do not edit" line in the cookies.txt file and set the file properties to read only. All cookies are accepted, none are stored ...
> Which is why I have my browser set to accept only cookies that get
> sent back to the originating server and to warn me before accepting
> any cookies. I always manually reject cookies that are associated
> with advertising and regularly clear both cache and cookies from my
> machine using a batch file I picked off of either Tucows or Zdnet
> (can't remember which). Ironically one of the biggest offenders of
[Dunlop, Douglas [ATC:M004:EXCH]] [snipped]
From: Blake Droke <bdroke@sprintmail.com> Reply-To: bdroke@sprintmail.com Subject: Re: 7D Dialing Across NPA Boundaries Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 03:47:43 GMT Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
> Ed Ellers wrote:
>> Um, I would suggest that Louisville, Kentucky is also a major city!'
>> We still have 7D dialing between parts of the 502 and 812 NPAs, and
>> since the state (wisely IMHO) changed the 270 addition from an
> overlay
>> to a split I expect we'll have it for some time to come. (The state
>> decision came during the permissive 10D dialing period, and -- guess
>> what? -- permissive 10D hasn't been turned off. Not that it does any
>> harm, of course.)
Memphis might also be called a major city and still has 7D cross-NPA dialing between local numbers in 901 (TN), 662 (MS) and 870 (AR). Unlike Louisville, however, no 10D calling is allowed. Of course there are only 13 Mississippi 662 NXXs local from Memphis and 5 Arkansas 870 NXXs.
I noticed a potential problem in the Neustar database recently. 901-739 has been assigned to a CLEC in 901, while 870-739 is assigned to Southwestern Bell and is a local call from Memphis 901. Might not be a problem since Tennessee is a toll alerting state. It depends on which rate center will get 901-739. If its in the Metro Memphis area, there will be a dialling conflict.
From: Dean Forrest Wright <dean@imt.net> Subject: Re: Long Lines Bells Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:00:44 GMT Organization: Wright Engineers P.C.
Incidentally, the name Long Lines really meant exactly that. AT&T Long Lines was, with a few exceptions, responsible for carrying telephone calls which crossed state lines, with the local Bell Operating Company (i.e. Mountain States Telephone & Telegraph) being responsible for carrying calls within a given state or related geographical area. --
Dean Forrest Wright, P.E. Telecommunications (Central Office Equipment) Engineer dean at imt dot net
"When one lacks a sense of awe, there will be disaster"
From: Goodwin, Fred <goodwin@tri.sbc.com> Subject: Re: Long Lines Bells Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:56:15 -0600
Phil Smiley <epsmiley@epix.net> wrote:
> Margaret Hill wrote:
>> Are you familiar with LONG LINES? Was this once a telephone company?
>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "Long Lines" was the informal name
>> for AT&T's long distance operation. PAT]
> Long Lines was shortened name for AT&T Long Lines. Long Lines was the
> long distance arm of the Bell System.
Question on a minor point: didn't the local BOCs own and operate the *intrastate* LD networks prior to Divestiture? I thought LL owned and operated only the AT&T *interstate* LD network, and that the BOCs had to spin off to LL their own intrastate, interLATA LD plant at Divestiture?
If you're equating "long distance" to "interstate", then my point is moot.
Fred Goodwin, CMA Associate Director -- Technology Program Management SBC Technology Resources, Inc. 9505 Arboretum, 9th Floor, Austin, TX 78759 fgoodwin@tri.sbc.com (512) 372-5921 (512) 372-5991 fax
From: Robert M. Bryant <rmbryant@att.com> Subject: NXX by NPA Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:16:46 -0500
Do you know where I can get a list of NXX's by NPA or by City or State??
Robert M. Bryant DNAE IBM Team 440 Hamilton, 12th. fl. White Plains, NY 10601 (914) 397-8451 Pager: 888-858-7243, pin 116852
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It would be a humongous list to say the least, on several CD Roms, and printing out to hundreds of pages. And the list never ends, and is never entirely up to date. PAT]
From: lorent@point.com Subject: Your Wireless Phone/Laptop Experience Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:44:11 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy.
I'm researching the use of laptops in conjunction with wireless phones to access the Internet and to fax. Please tell me of your experiences. Is it frustrating? Easy? Too many disconnects? Too slow? (Of course it is). But has it made your life easier in any way? Any good stories of how you use the combo?
Please email me at lorent@point.com
Thanks,
Loren Tanner Staff Editor Point.com (Formerly Wireless Dimension) www.point.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:58:42 CST From: George Yanos <gyanos@uic.edu> Subject: Wireless Extensions
Several months ago there was at TELECOM Digest discussion of wireless extensions for wireline phones. One sub-topic was "which phone has the longest range". Now, suddenly, I find myself needing such a phone which will work across several hundred, perhaps 1,000, yards of dense suburb. Dense meaning old houses on 40 foot lots with an occassional brick 3-flat apartment house tossed in. I wonder if the old discussion is still definitive or if there is a new winner in the long range contest?
George Yanos 312-413-0059(w) 708-848-4221(h)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:40:00 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> Subject: Amazon's Market Conversation
http://davenet.userland.com/2000/02/29/amazonsMarketConversation
From Scripting News... It's DaveNet! Released on 2/29/00; 8:23:02 AM PST
***Good morning!
After yesterday's piece, the net is working it's magic on the Amazon patent situation. Last night's post from Tim O'Reilly got SlashDot moving; and this morning Dale Dougherty, also of O'Reilly, posted a short list of "controversial" patents that relate to the Internet industry.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/patents/2000/02/29/contro.html
***Jeffrey Wilkinson
From Jeffrey Wilkinson. "You might suggest that people write letters. Boycotts are more effective when you write and tell them that you're doing it and exactly why. Just cutting off your links and buying without telling them explicitly is less effective."
I totally agree!
***Faisal Jawdat
Then I was cc'd by Faisal Jawdat on an email in response to an Amazon promotional mailing.
For full effect, a screen shot of the email:
http://static.userland.com/misc/snImages/faisalConversesWithAmazon.gif
I like how he says he'll come back when Amazon is finished with patents. A message saying "you've lost me forever" might be emotionally satisfying, but probably gets your message into the bit bucket, and might get your name removed from their database. And in reality, many of us *will* come back to Amazon when the pressure is off. Why?
Because Amazon has a deserved reputation for being responsive to its customers. I get promotional emails often, and Amazon does it better than anyone else. Their database knows what I like. They sign the emails with the name of a person, an editor or product manager, sometimes even Jeff Bezos himself! I like that because it's personal (even though I know it's a script that wrote the email.) Presumably there's a real person reading the responses.
Like a letter to your Congressman, this is the most precise place to register your point of view. It should be the place that Amazon wants to hear from you. So think, and then say what you think, next time you get an email from Amazon.
***Dave Winer
PS: Assume there's a real person reading the email, and please treat that person with respect. They almost certainly played no role in Amazon's policy in re patents.
Scripting News: <http://www.scripting.com/>
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