USING THE INTERNET FOR THE GLORY OF
GOD
Some Postings on “Speak
in Tongues!” in the America On Line (AOL) Message Board for “The
Passion of the Christ”; Reviewed on February, Friday 27, 2004 (Posted last Wednesday,
when Mel Gibson’s Movie was released).
[I Went to “Post Messages”; Then, After Posting…
I Opened on “Show All Subjects”]:
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Dear Bible
Believers,
Never forget that after the resurrection (also depicted in "The Passion of
the Christ," directed by Mel Gibson), ten days after the ascension of
Jesus Christ, he poured out the gift of holy spirit on the day of Pentecost, to
make us participants of the divine nature of God (2 Peter 1:4) and endued us
with power from on high (Luke 24:49) to be his witnesses in all the world.
This is the salvation, this is the new birth, the baptism with the divine gift
of holy spirit, this is the conversion, one thing leading to the other, so one
of the manifestations of that power inside us who believe, is the wonderful and
powerful ability of speaking in tongues (1 Corinthians, Chapters 12, 13 and 14,
paying attention here, specially to 14:14-15, 18, 23, 26, 39; Mark 16:17-18;
Jude, verse 20; Ephesians 5:18-19 and 6:18-20).
So, what are you waiting? Believe in your heart that God has raised Jesus from
the dead! And confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is your Lord! (Rom.
10:9-10), and then start speaking in tongues more and more in your life (as in
the wonderful living examples that we have through all the book of Acts 2:4,
11; 10:44-46; 19:4-6, etc.)
If you have any genuine question don't doubt and write me, I will be blessed to
help you with all my heart, in the name of Jesus Christ.
Useful Links:
http://www.redbay.com/ekklesia/bornagn.htm
http://www.redbay.com/ekklesia/sit.htm
http://www.redbay.com/ekklesia/whysit.htm
http://www.redbay.com/ekklesia/sitpray.htm
http://www.redbay.com/ekklesia/framhope.htm
http://www.oocities.org/fdocc3/revelation.htm
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As a
Pentecostal believer, I must tell you that the last message that Christ gave
the church was "repent" (Rev. 2:5; 2:16; 2:22; 3:3; 3:19).
The gifts of the spirit are for those who wish to be filled with His
"Holy" - Spirit. It was not intended to seduce egos who seek after
'another' supernatural experience, this is not to say that this is what you
were implying, my intention is only to clarify a bit. Unfortunately, today,
there's not much desire for truth or holiness.
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Dear
Seedplanter1,
Thanks for the remark.
In meekness I must say that a deeper study of Revelation (as E. W. Bullinger
did) we can see that the born again believers are not the subject of it:
http://philologos.org/__eb-ta
With all our mistakes and failures, before the great day of the coming of Jesus
Christ to take us out of this corrupted world, we are and remain saved by grace
and rescued from the wrath to come!
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>then
start speaking in tongues more and more in your life (as in the wonderful
living examples that we have through all the book of Acts 2:4, 11; 10:44-46;
19:4-6, etc.)
Sorry, but NOT everyone has the gift of speaking in tongues or of
interpreting. There are many gifts of the Spirit, but they are dispensed
as God wills, not as we will.
~~Gidzmo (Block2Block)~~
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Every BELIEVER
can Speak in Tongues!
Dear Gidzmo,
The Epistles of Corinthians are directed to the believers in Jesus Christ, not
only to the ones of the first century.
1 Cor. 14:39 says for this very present time: "do not forbid to speak with
tongues" and 1 Cor. 14:26 says that 'also each one of the believers of the
Church of the Body of Christ "has a tongue and an interpretation",
and in 1 Cor. 14:23 says that the whole church also "speak with
tongues". 1 Cor. 12:7 says that "the manifestation of the spirit is
given to each one" for profit (and then, better if you check the Greek
text nine different "profits" derived by manifesting holy spirit are
mentioned. People misunderstood this verse by saying that there is speaking of
different persons, but not, these are different "profits" that the
same person needs to enjoy, not all of us need wisdom, or healing? All of us
need all of the nine profits resulting by manifesting holy spirit).
When Jesus Christ told: "these signs will follow those who believe... they
will speak with new tongues" (Mark 16:17) he never put a caducity date or
a restriction.
In the Name of Jesus Christ
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>Every
BELIEVER Can Speak in Tongues!
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>Dear Gidzmo…
Have you ever seen a dove fly with only one wing?
There are nine gifts and there are nine fruits.
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Dear
Seedplanter1,
That is a powerful statement. The starting point for a born again believer, as we
have seen in the book of Acts in the references previously presented, including
the 12 Apostles Themselves, and all the people in the house of Cornelius and
the 12 believers in Ephesus, among others, first did the speaking in tongues,
they also provided word of prophecy, and after that they did miracles of
healing, like Peter raising Tabita from the dead, or Paul raising from the dead
the guy that fell down from an upper window.
Speaking in Tongues is the start for people interested in became a believer and
a born again Christian as Corinthians teaches to us. There are NINE "EVIDENCES" or "MANIFESTATIONS" of the one and only gift of holy spirit given to a born again believer by God.
In the Name of Jesus Christ:
Read the next deep search for truth:
http://www.oocities.org/fdocc3/in-my-name.htm
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Related to the last link:
Thanks
for your attachments. I will read it more closely later on today!
A Blond Surfer in San Diego! (Rubancolin)
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Funny that's
exactly what the people said while waging the inquisition
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ALEtron X,
The Speaking in Tongues is a manifestation of the gift of holy spirit that was
lost in the dark ages, at the time of the catholic inquisition every born again
believer that continued speaking in tongues was persecuted.
The Speaking in Tongues was re-discovered by people no more linked with
catholic leadership, and it was until later that some catholics realized of its
wonderful reality (the so-called "charismatic groups").
A Real Christian does not follow the doctrines of men promoted by the catholic
church but the Bible, the Word of God.
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Other
person submitted an example of catholic ideas promoted in the dark ages and by
a bad catholic leadership, following the likes of "Cyprian," to see
Cyprian's crazy rage and others of his kind, go to: http://www.oocities.org/fdocc3/appendix3.htm
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[Stump2655 says:] I believe you are teaching ideas of your own that cannot be
found in the Bible. We must do more than just believe and confess.
The Bible clearly teaches that we must repent and go down into that watery
grave of baptism. THIS is the true baptism. A baptism into Jesus
Christ for the remission of sins. Acts 2:38 (see this quotation in
another posting). Also speaking in tongues was ONLY done by those in the days
of miracles. Speaking in tongues ceased when those days ended. 1 Cor.
13:8 "Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall
fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge,
it shall vanish away." We do not speak in tongues today. What you
are preaching cannot be found in the Bible.
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Stump2655 quotes Acts 2:38 dismissing all the forthcoming historical
developments of the manifestation of speaking in tongues among the gentiles, i.e.
in the house of the Roman Centurion Cornelius (in Acts 10), God needed to talk
to Peter in order for him to go inside the house of Cornelius, and in the
Gentile nations, like in Ephesus (in Acts 19), Paul helped them to manifest the
speaking in tongues. Then he quotes 1 Cor. 13:8 dismissing all the forthcoming
context, even when the full Chapter 14 explains how to decently do the speaking
in tongues and, as I posted before, how in 1 Cor. 14:39 it clearly explains:
"DO NOT FORBID TO SPEAK WITH TONGUES."
So by taking the scriptures out of their historical and textual context, the
bad leadership have tried to left the family of God without any spiritual power
and only with harsh, cold and useless doctrines and dogmas.
The tongues are a necessary tool while we are in this wicked world to overcame
any kind of adversity and to have joy in the midst of it, when we became
transformed to our spiritual body (the perfect body, at the coming of Christ to
take us away from this world) tongues will be necessary no more, but LOVE
endures forever!
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WHAT? ARE YOU
FROM WEST VA. ? TALKING ABOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUES. DO YOU HANDLE SNAKES, AND
DRINK POISON ALSO?
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RodSquad 09,
The Bible tells us in Mark that "They shall take up serpents; and IF"
is not a "they must" is an "IF." Check that historical fact
by yourself in the life of Paul: A venomous viper did bite his hand while he
was taking sticks, not willingly but it was an "IF", "And he
shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm" (Acts 28:5).
A beautiful promise in the spiritual realm can also be perceived:
"And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under our feet shortly"
(Rom. 16:20).
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed
and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shall bruise his heel"
(Gen. 3:15).
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Every BELIEVER can Speak in Tongues! Part TWO |
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2/26/04 9:26:18 AM Central Standard Time |
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Dear Gidzmo,
I won't insist any more but only this time again. I put in dark the emphasis:
In a message dated 2/25/04 4:21:22 PM Central Standard Time, Gidzmo writes:
Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good
[To Sumferon, The Profit]. To one [Ho men gar] there
is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another [ALLO] the
message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another [HETERO]
faith by the same Spirit, to another [ALLO] gifts of healing
by that one Spirit, to another [ALLO] miraculous powers, to
another [ALLO] prophecy, to another [ALLO] distinguishing
between spirits, to another [HETERO] speaking in different kinds
of tongues,[1] and to still another [ALLO] the interpretation of
tongues.[2]. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives
them to each one, just as he determines." (1 Corinthians 12:7-11, NIV)
"The Common Good"
(NIV) is the Greek word "To Sumferon" translated in the NKJV
as "The Profit," then To one refers not to one
"person" but to one "profit" as the Greek word is "Ho
men gar" translated in the NKJV as "For To One", the
immediate subject is not “person” but “The Profit”, so it needs to be
understood as For To One PROFIT. How I know that? Because of the particular use
of the expressions "to another" in Greek, one of them
corresponds to the word "ALLO" used SIX times here, but also the
expression "to another" here in Greek corresponds to "HETERO",
used only TWO times, when speaks of: to another [HETERO]
faith by the same Spirit AND to
another [HETERO] speaking in different kinds of tongues.
If it were talking here about persons the particular and precise different uses
of the Greek words ALLO and HETERO are left totally unexplained,
but if talking about "The Profit" it is very clear, as HETERO
is a profit for the individual manifesting faith and speaking in tongues, but ALLO
is a profit for the individual AND for another members of the Church.
Then it came the next conclusive end: "the same Spirit, and he gives
them to each one, just as he determines." This end or conclusion in Greek is "idia ekasto
katos bouletai" that should be translated as "to each one as he
wills", the "he" being again applied to the last subject that in
this case is indeed “the person”, that is that “each one” [in Greek: idia ekasto], the last
subject mentioned, not "the Spirit." How I know that? Because the
Bible tells me so: in 1 Cor. 14:15 Paul says, regarding the order of the
manifestations "in the Church": "I wish you all spoke with
tongues..." He says "YOU ALL" and if that is impossible, why he
wishes something impossible? And in verse 14:18 Paul says, "I thank my God
I speak with tongues more than you all" More than YOU ALL. Is this again a
vain boasting, or is a decision of the free will of Paul to decide to do so? In
verse 14:23, as I mentioned in a previous mail it is written: "If the
whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues", “THE
WHOLE CHURCH...”, and “ALL” again... do you see? The heart of God is for ALL to
do it because: "He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself". Do you
think that we have no need to edify ourselves everyday?
Why Jude in verse 20 declared that: "You, beloved building yourselves up
on your most holy faith, praying in the holy spirit" If all the Believers
were unable to "pray in the holy spirit," why bother them with this
dearly recommendation? What does it mean to "pray in the holy
spirit"? The answer is in the Bible!
Please go to: 1 Cor. 14:14-15 "If I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but
my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with
the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the
spirit, and I will sing with the understanding" (NKJV).
Those verses clearly say that to pray in the holy spirit is to pray in a
tongue. Why are the peoples blinded by religious traditions and by unbelieving
leadership?
To approach our conclusion, let's go to: Eph. 5:18-19 "do not be drunk
with wine in which is dissipation; but be filled with the spirit. Speaking to
one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody
in your heart to the Lord" and then to Eph. 6:18 "Praying always with
all prayer and supplication in the spirit."
What does it mean here "Praying in the spirit"? This is the same as
in Jude verse 20 and in 1 Cor. 14:14-15, it is again "Praying in a
tongue."
Jesus Christ mentioned of the speaking in tongues in the next contexts:
"God is Spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and
truth" (John 4:24).
What does it mean here "Worship in spirit". We know now the answer.
And in Mark 16:17 "These signs will follow those who believe… they will
speak with new tongues"
Paul describes the fulfillment of that promise of Christ: "For by one
spirit we were all baptized into one body" (1 Cor. 12:13).
It is a sign of the presence of holy spirit inside us, ALL of us can do it.
Jesus said "THOSE WHO BELIEVE", do you believe, do you really believe
that he said that?
It is like to be artist in painting or music. All of us have hands and ears,
but, who excels but the one practicing day and night and perfecting the
methodology with focusing and with purpose. NOT ALL SPEAK IN TONGUES AT THE
SAME TIME IN THE CHURCH, that was going on in Corinth (and that continues in “charismatic”
and “Pentecostal” groups) and Paul needed to correct them to make them to act
decently and in order, as the full Chapter of 1 Cor. 14 will teach you.
And Last:
"It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be
evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God's people for
works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up, until we all
reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become
mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ."
(Ephesians 4:11-13, NIV)
These are the five gifts of Ministries for the whole Church. These are totally
different to the nine manifestations of holy spirit described in 1 Cor.
12:7-11, and as much as you practice the manifestation of holy spirit more and
more easy became the producing of the fruit of holy spirit, also composed of
nine parts, as described in Gal. 5:22-23.
The five gifts of Ministries for the whole Church, if you see in Acts, were
also provided according to the need, some persons functioning some times as
Apostles, some times as Evangelists, etc. I believe Paul practiced also all of
the gifts of Ministries according to the needs of the Church of his time. And
of course, Paul practiced all of the nine manifestations of the spirit and
provided the fruit of the spirit with its nine parts.
If you already believe in your heart the truth that Jesus Christ was raised
from the dead by God, and if you have already confessed that Jesus is the Lord
of your life, you are already saved (Rom. 10:9-10), you don't need to speak in
tongues if you don't want to, or if you have been instructed to don't do so.
But if you want the PLUS from God, the added blessing that is freely available for
you, go for it, do it without doctrinal or personal barriers.
In the powerful name of Jesus Christ
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This answer is because Gidzmo wrote:
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Re: Every BELIEVER can Speak in Tongues! |
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In a message dated 02/25/2004 13:22:32 Pacific Standard Time, Fdocc3 writes:
Every BELIEVER Can Speak in Tongues!
Hello, Fdocc! Good to hear from you!
A Scripture concerning spiritual gifts:
"There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are
different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of
working, but the same God works all of them in all men.
Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.
To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the
message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same
Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous
powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to
another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[1] and to still another the
interpretation of tongues.[2]. All these are the work of one and the same
Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines." (1
Corinthians 12:4-11, NIV)
12:10 Or languages; also in verse 28
12:10 Or languages; also in verse 28
Not every believer can speak in tongues. God didn't design His Church so
that every believer would have the same set of gifts. Imagine how uninteresting
things would be if everyone had the same set of gifts.
"It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be
evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God's people for
works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up, until we all
reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become
mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ."
(Ephesians 4:11-13, NIV)
Every believer has something in the Church to do--it's just that not everyone
gets to do the same thing. If so, it would be like having (in the words
of a pastor at my church) "the church of the living eye," because
nothing else would be getting done.
All the best!
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The early
Christians did speak in tongues.. But, today we have the Bible… They did not...
So, tongues have ceased… and Knowledge it has vanished away…
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Dear LPE4442,
Again, why don't we let the Bible explain by itself.
Jude verse 20 and Ephesians 6:18 are clearly speaking of a reality very alive
today:
"You, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in
the holy spirit" (Jude, verse 20)
"Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit" (Eph.
6:20)
"Praying in the holy spirit" = "All prayer and supplication in
the spirit"
1 Cor. 14:14-15 opens the eyes of our understanding when it says: "If I
pray in a tongue, my spirit prays... I will pray with the spirit, and I will
ALSO pray with the understanding..."
God, please, in the Powerful name of your son JESUS CHRIST, open the eyes of
the already born again believers to let them see that there is way far more
abundance in their lives with your gift of holy spirit being manifested!
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GO TO A CHURCH WITH A TEACHER WHO
UNDERSTAND THE SRCIPTURES...
OR BETTER YET, READ THE BIBLE FOR
YOURSELF AND ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AND HE WILL GIVE YOU YOUR ANSWERS
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Dear Wiseup35,
I believe in the Bible to be true, and I believe that with faithful reading and
dedication we can see the light flowing through the Bible.
I believe with all my heart in the Love of God being manifested by Us, His
Children, with that Love I submit you to read the Bible above all, with the
Bible in mind I have prepared the answers for the previous postings, but even
people that we don't know, but that God does know, they also are aware of that
great truth (as you will see below). In the name of Jesus Christ!
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Fragments of Another Related Posting (taking out some strikes of his "whip"
to center our attention in God's LOVE):
Message 1 of 5 Subject 17 of 50
Subject: TONGUES LIKE AS OF FIRE
Date: 2/17/04 8:53 AM Central
Standard Time
From: Sogwap9
MsgId: 20040217095349.15829.00021409@mbs-m07.
For those who REALLY want to know;
…Romans 10; 9,10 is the only way to get born again…
…The original out pouring of the gift of holy spirit was the day of Pentecost. That
was the first time in History man could ever be born again of God's gift of
holy spirit, making you His child.
Without that gift of holy spirit, you are not His child and you don't have
eternal life. MY POINT IS; THAT (the gift of holy spirit) should be the focal
point of "so called" Christianity, the birth of the church of God and
the power that came to it on the day of Pentecost.
That, Ladies and Gentleman was the real reason for Christ's coming, to save us
through the new birth, by what he faced up to here on earth. God wanted a
family, now he can have one, it will be made up of those whom He Father's via
the new birth…
If you really want to get it straight, and you really want to bring it, and not
for money's sake but because you really are hungering after righteousness, drop
me a line. I can help anyone who really wants to know. If you just want to
argue religion, go away, I haven't got time. If you want to know about GOD
almighty and His wonderful Son, I can help. Go see Mel's interpretation of it,
then come for the real story of healing and deliverance.
Mel won't be there for you after the movie ends, but I will be right here. I've
been at this a little longer than Mel and he can't go beyond what he has been
led to believe, like so many others they just need to get the real story God
intended for man to have.
God's Word IS God's Will!
Message
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Subject: Re: TONGUES LIKE AS OF FIRE
Date: 2/26/04 10:21 PM Central Standard Time
From: Fdocc3
MsgId: <20040226232137.25124.00009748@mbs-r02.>
This
is to Mel Gibson,
A
man "Adam" sinned, a man "Jesus" obeyed God (Rom. 5:15-19):
"BY
ONE MAN'S OBEDIENCE MANY WILL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS" (Rom. 5:19).
Our
Lord Jesus Christ needed to be one of us to redeem us and to be in just and in
legal terms of redemption.
Adam
and Jesus had one thing in common: they both had pure and clean blood, Adam
lost that cleanness, Jesus, our Lord and Savior kept it through all his life,
then, when he was resurrected, his body was transformed.
Romans
10:9-10 says that we need to confess that Jesus is our Lord, NOT to confess
that Jesus is our "God". Do we believe the Bible in its fullness or
in the dogmas and traditions of men?
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The Bible says that
God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. If He gave the gift of
tongues to the early Christians, He will give it to us. The Bible says to
"desire spiritual gifts" one of which is to speak in tongues or
interpret tongues. Tongues have not ceased and they wont as long as there are
Christians who allow the Holy Spirit to fill them up to overflowing.
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Travisnangel,
Outstanding posting, I bless you with all my heart in the name of our common
Lord and Savior: Jesus Christ!
We, the readers that are able to speak in tongues, we need to pray with our
understanding and also with the gift of holy spirit given to Us by God, because
through our speaking in tongues for every reader of these lines, according to
God's foreknowledge, many are going to became born again and/or to start
manifesting the power from on high (Luke 24:49) that they already have within,
but have not yet used because of bad teaching and/or unbelief.
This is as Peter prophesized:
"For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar
off, as many as the Lord our God will call" (Acts 2:39)
Message
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Re: Speak in Tongues! |
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2/26/04 10:32:08 PM Central Standard Time |
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Fdocc3 |
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letter received and the answer are provided next:
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Interesting
letter. Thank you for writing. But, I have no need to speak in
"tongues."
The
God I worship has the ability to understand English.
Paul
speaking to the immature Christians in the church of Christ at Corinth would
say: "Tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that
believe not" [1Cor. 14:22]. I was of the understanding that you
"believed."
Have
you obeyed Peter's command of Acts 2:38?
[Acts
2:38 says: “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus
Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”]
Keep
in mind, that it is not having the "indwelling" of the Holy Spirit
that saves one; It is what Jesus did on the cross that "saves."
"For he [God] has made him [Jesus] to be sin for us, [you and I] that we
might be made the righteousness of God in him." [2 Cor. 5:21].
The
question must be asked: How does one get "in him" to become
"righteous," and "be reconciled to God?" [2 Cor. 5:19-21].
I thank you for your prayers.
Because
He lives,
JR
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Re: My posting on "The Passion of the Christ" |
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2/26/04 10:34:39 PM Central Standard Time |
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Fdocc3 |
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JRebman417.
If you
don't want to speak in tongues is your own and private privilege, but please
"DO NOT FORBID TO SPEAK WITH TONGUES"
Do
you think that everything can be reached with your limited understanding? The
spirit helps us in our inability to pray as we must pray (Rom. 8:26). The “groanings”
there described are the speaking in tongues.
To
speak in tongues is not obligatory, is just an added blessing from our Father
God to cope with the adversary in this corrupted world. Are we so smart as to
trash one of the mainstream manifestations for which Jesus Christ paid the
price of his life?
Acts
2:38 is talking of the new baptism of Jesus: “In spirit” not of the old baptism
of John: “In water” (is exactly the example that we see in Apollos, Acts.
18:24-26). If you have holy spirit, you can speak in tongues.
One
last call from me to you:
Don't
limit yourself to the beginning of Acts, read the rest of the history, Acts 10,
Acts 19, etc., 1 Cor. Chapters 12, 13 and 14, Ephesians, even Jude (verse 20)
mentions the praying in holy spirit, and I ask: What is that according to the
word of God?
We
are not interested in private opinions of men. The Bible clearly declares:
"if I pray I a tongue, my spirit prays… I will pray with the spirit, and I
will also pray with the understanding" (1 Cor. 14:14-15). Are we above God
to say that we only want to pray with our understanding (in English) because
our dogmas say that today is impossible to speak in tongues, so if we take that
decision we are dismissing to pray in the spirit.
I
won't push any more this point on you, I will only speak in tongues for you and
you will be able to see for yourself the miraculous power of that kind of
prayer that from my own small place I will be doing for you, I don't know you,
but God does, so if I speak in tongues for you, God can cover for you on behalf
of my prayer in the spirit.
God
bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is our Lord, but Jesus Christ is NOT
our God! In his name and with his love I pray again for you in my spirit with
tongues right now!
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>Subject:
Re: Speak in Tongues!
>From: Fdocc3
>The Speaking in Tongues is a manifestation of the gift of holy spirit that
>was lost in the dark ages, at the time of the catholic inquisition every
born
>again believer that continued speaking in tongues was persecuted.
It took until the last part of the 1800's for the Simon the Sorcerers
quest for knowledge to use the Holy Spirit for gain. Speaking in tongues
as written in scripture is equivalent to the same speaking in tongues that
takes place at the UN or any other meeting where different languages is
spoken.
Acts 2:4-13
“And
they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other
tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5. And there were dwelling at
Jerusalem Jews, devout men, OUT OF EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN. 6. Now when
this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded,
BECAUSE THAT EVERY MAN HEARD THEM SPEAK IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE. 7. And they
were all amazed and marveled, saying one to another, BEHOLD, ARE NOT ALL THESE
WHICH SPEAK GALILAEANS? And HOW HEAR WE EVERY MAN IN OUR OWN TONGUE WHEREIN
WE WERE BORN? 9. Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the
dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10. Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene,
and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11. Cretes and Arabians, WE
DO HEAR THEM SPEAK IN OUR TONGUES THE WONDERFUL WORKS OF GOD. 12. And
they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth
this? Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.”
>The Speaking
in Tongues was re-discovered by people no more linked with
>catholic leadership, and it was until later that some catholics realized of
>its wonderful reality (the so-called "charismatic groups").
>A Real Christian does not follow the doctrines of men promoted by the
>catholic church but the Bible, the Word of God.
Yes, real Christian does not
follow the doctrines of men, which promote using the Holy Spirit for their own
gain and amusements.
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Excellent
posting! God bless you.
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Fragments of some of the beautiful e-mails recently received:
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All
I have to say is AMEN!!!!!
In
Christ
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Re: My posting on the board The Passion of the Christ" |
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2/25/04 4:51:21 PM Central Standard Time |
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Fdocc3 |
Dear
In Christ:
Thank you for your letter to me. It is good
that you are witnessing to others. You probably sent me this knowing from by postings
that I am also a believer in Christ.
The
information you gave to me is already known however. See I am a member of the
Assemblies of God, as you may very well be also. I never would have believed
that I would become of Pentecostal faith, but I have never been closer to the
Lord than I am now. I am Baptized in the Holy Spirit already, for 2 years now I
have been praying in tongues. I have studied all the scriptures very well on
that subject first.
I
cannot wait to go see the movie! I do not have a weak stomach, but I will have
to take a box of kleenex because I will be very sensitive to the pain
and agony that he suffered for me.
I
will probably praise him right there!
Again,
thank you very much...
Linda
for Christ....
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Others
that are related:
Do
you by chance attend the Church of Christ?
……………………
We
attend home meetings in where we sing, we have manifestations of holy spirit
(word of prophecy and speaking in tongues with interpretation), we have a
Teaching from the Bible and we also have abundant sharing (more than the tithe,
giving from our heart), sometimes we have prayer time with our understanding,
one by one, at will at the beginning or at the end of the meeting.
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Subj: |
Re: My posting on the board The Passion of the
Christ" |
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Date: |
2/25/04 3:10:57 PM Central Standard Time |
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From: |
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Fdocc3 |
We completely
believe in speaking in tongues and I and my entire church (Pentecostal) does it
on a regular basis (whenever someone feels the spirit the head right up front
or even stand where they are and get the best blessing ever), nice to see some
other people who believe in this wondrous gift.
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Thank you for
posting your message. God bless you.
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Or rather, thanks God for his Blessed Word!
……………………….
Conclusion:
God Bless you
in the Name that is Above Every Name,
And Please, Speak
in Tongues All the Time!
Other Links:
Brief of the Mel Gibson’s
Interviews with D. Sawyer (pdf file)
The first day of the movie (pdf
file)
The Powerful Movement of the Word
of God in the U.S.A.
Postings in Google of Born Again Believers that Speak in Tongues.
URL of this page: http://www.oocities.org/fdocc3/sit.htm
URL of the second part of this page (sit2): http://www.oocities.org/fdocc3/sit2.htm
Tasters of the Word (YouTube), videos recientes: "Astronomía y Nacimiento de Jesucristo: Once de Septiembre Año Tres A.C.", "Estudio sobre Sanidades" (en 20 episodios), "Jesus Christ, Son or God?":
Tasters of the Word (the blog, with: "Astronomy and the Birth of Jesus Christ"):