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boom bap Interview: THE BOOM BAP PROJECT (Karim Of The Boom Bap Project)
“Preserving Hip-hop With The Boom Bap Project”
An Interview with THE BOOM BAP PROJECT
(July 2005)
Interview by Todd E. Jones aka The New Jeru Poet
toddejones@yahoo.com

        Can the essence of the mid-90’s intelligent hip-hop ever be preserved or re-injected into today’s culture? Can the city of Seattle ever be ardently represented in the hip-hop nation? If hip-hop can be saved, could Seattle, Washington be one of the cities that will contribute?
        For many people, Starbucks and grunge music (Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, etc.) come to mind when they think of the city of Seattle. Starbucks went global. Grunge music basically died (Thank God!). While other cities were hustling, pimping, getting crunk, backpacking, battling, or sipping on syrups, a new sound in independent hip-hop was born in the Northwest. True hip-hop heads are now discovering the intensity of Northwestern hip-hop. Oldominion, Lifesavas, and others have earned a loyal following with a signature sound and interesting live shows. Emerging from this region, The Boom Bap Project is another link in this sturdy chain.
        Consisting of Karim (a.k.a. Nightclubberlang), Destro Destructo, and DJ Scene, The Boom Bap Project have vowed to preserve the true essence of hip-hop. Since the golden era, many classic hip-hop groups consisted of two emcees and one DJ. Beastie Boys, Run-DMC, and A Tribe Called Quest followed this estimable format as they contributed to the culture’s evolution. In the mid 90’s, hip-hop experienced another mini-renaissance that birthed eccentric, thought-provoking, and powerful artists. Organized Konfusion, O.C., Artifacts, Souls Of Mischief, A Tribe Called Quest, M.O.P., De La Soul, The Pharcyde, and Del The Funky Homosapian are just a few in this long list. Since the culture’s creation, hip-hop has united cultures, helped the economy, consistently evolved but remained true to the roots, inspired people to move forward, and empowered listeners to pursue their dreams.
        Without warning, The Boom Bap Project surprised the world when they decided to live out their dreams. While they were well known within their region, the hip-hop nation took notice when they signed to Rhymesayers Entertainment, one of the most respected underground / independent labels in hip-hop. Home of Atmosphere, MF Doom, Brother Ali, and Eyedea & Abilities, Rhymesayers Entertainment has helped to elevate the culture with innovative, entertaining, and unique music. With a contribution of their own, The Boom Bap Project was added to this magnificent list. Their 2005 debut album, ‘Reprogram’ was released to critical acclaim. Guests included Rakaa from Dilated Peoples, Gift Of Gab from Blackalicious, Grayskul, and others. Thought-provoking songs are fueled by hardcore hip-hop beats. Their energy is inspired by the mid 90’s hip-hop. “Surveillance” paints a scary yet honest scene of a society that is constantly watched through the eye of the camera. “Welcome To Seattle” is an inviting anthem for the city they represent. “Rock The Spot”, “Sho Shot”, and “1,2,3,4” are hard-hitting jams inspired by the revered 90’s hip-hop. The Boom Bap Project just may be one of the artists who help lead the rebirth of intelligent hip-hop music. If intelligent hip-hop has survived in the years to come, The Boom Bap Project may be one of the groups we should thank. 

T. JONES: “What goes on?"
KARIM: “Peace. We’re in the midst of a short album release tour. We just got banned from Canada for one year! Bout to hit the road with Hiero, Non Phixion, and O.C. in July.”

T.JONES: “The debut album, ‘Reprogram’ by The Boom Bap Project was just released. Tell us about it.”
KARIM: “The ‘Reprogram’ album is 15 tracks of straight hip-hop. It’s hip-hop the way we like to hear it. Banging beats, rhymes, cuts.”

T.JONES: “How long did it take you to record ‘Reprogram’?”

KARIM: “The record probably took like a little over a year to record. It took longer to come out as we switched labels during the process.”

T.JONES: “What is your favorite song on, ‘Reprogram’?”
KARIM: “I would actually say my favorite song on ‘Reprogram’ is the title track itself, ‘Reprogram’. We’ve struggled so much in this music industry. Paying dues, being dead broke, touring, doing shows, drama et cetera, all in the name of the music and the art. There is nothing in school that could’ve prepared us for this. Society is set up so you go to school, then college, then get a job, or you fail or fall off somewhere to the wayside. We have followed our dreams and have been told that we can’t do this our whole lives. We are reprogramming that school of thought. I know the title ‘Reprogram’ means even more than that to us too.”
 
T.JONES: “Can you explain the creative process of The Boom Bap Project? Who comes up with themes or topics? Who chooses where they rap on the song?”
KARIM: “Destro and I come up with the themes, topics, all that. We usually get a beat from Jake One or Vitamin D, throw the CD on repeat, and see where the vibe takes us. We usually get the hardcore bangers. Our specialty is just spitting. We have been doing this for a while together, so we usually know each others style enough to know who should go first.”
 
T.JONES: “What song took you the longest to do? Why?”
KARIM: “Probably ‘Cut Down Ya Options’ with Rakaa. Someone mysteriously misplaced the studio Pro Tools session. The song came out so ill! So, we had to get Rakaa back up here to re-record his verse. Later, when Vitamin and I were mixing down, the file turned up. The whole process probably took over a year.”

T.JONES: “What song took you the shortest to do? Why?”
KARIM: “Probably ‘Get  Up, Get Up’. It’s that Boom Bap hip-hop. We did trade-offs the whole track. When we write trade-offs, the process is a lot of fun because we are finishing each others lines. It goes by much faster.”

T.JONES: “What is the meaning behind the title ‘Reprogram’?”
KARIM: “There are many meanings. It’s mainly us rebelling from society and the norm, paying crazy dues, and making music. We are reprogramming a certain way of thinking and believing in our work.”

T.JONES: “When creating a song, do you have the lyrics pre-written or a set theme or do you hear the music first?”
KARIM: “We always need to hear the music first, and we always write to the beat.”

T.JONES: “How is your rhyme style different from others?”
KARIM: “I’m not sure how it differs from others, but I try to include some humor in my raps. I always tell the truth. I was the king of capping growing up. Sometimes, spitting the hard shit is just like capping. Other times, I just try to touch on things that I think are fucked up, like how the whole rap game is filled with formulaic bullshit, etc.”

T.JONES: “Although for some it may be obvious, can you go deeper into what the name The Boom Bap Project means to you?”
KARIM: “The Boom Bap Project is us, true school hip-hop. We aren’t trying to change the world, win the battle of rap world supremacy, or create lyrical lasers that verbally diminish your aura scientifically. Nah, it’s that Seattle Boom Bap sh*t. Come f*ck with us!”

T.JONES: “You guys talk about preserving hip-hop. How do you plan to do this? What parts of hip-hop do you think should be preserved? What parts do you think should not?”
KARIM: “We want to preserve the elements that were passed onto us by people like Erick and Parrish, Rakim, Pharoahe, Run DMC, Gangstarr, Brand Nubian, Special Ed, Kool G Rap, KRS One, Kane, and others. Real sh*t, hip-hop sh*t, not that pop rap, Nick Cannon with Nelly on the hook. Not that double-time high school ‘Girl I need you’ rap. F*ck it, not that stupid, big name, don’t make no sense, underground bullsh*t either. The lyrical miracle, Lexus Texas rap. These guys are polluting the underground with garbage. They make message board rap.”

T.JONES: “How did The Boom Bap Project meet?”
KARIM: “I was promoting shows in Oregon. Destro was a member of Frontline. I booked Frontline and Oracles Creed, later the foundation for Oldominion, for a show with Hiero. We built, and the rest is history.”

T.JONES: “What hurdles or problems have you encountered in the industry?”
KARIM: “I think the main thing is a lack of exposure here in the Northwest. My crew, Oldominion has been banging ya’ll for years. We’re finally getting the exposure we deserve, thanks to Rhymesayers, Stuck Under the Needle, Up Above, Quannum, Jus Family, Jasiri, and more. Others are really making noise as well. I think the Lifesavas are one of the dopest crews in the game, period. My man, Cool Nutz has accomplished and done so much for Portland rap. He’s dope. Jake One and Vitamin D, Bean One, and Mr. Hill are all making huge noise right now. They are getting their production out there. We’re overcoming these hurdles.”

T.JONES: “When did you first begin making music? What was it like?”

KARIM: “It was awful. I started in like 1992, recording on the dual tape player. We’d invite the neighborhood scrubs over, battle em’, and destroy em’ on tape. Then, we’d roll around playing the tape to our other friends like we were cool. We’d put out these tapes in San Fran with beats that I looped with me and my boy Takeo rapping over them.”

T.JONES: “How were you making a living before or outside music?”
KARIM: “I was promoting shows, clubs, etc. Through promoting, I’ve been able to bring a huge amount of underground crews to the Northwest and built relationships with them. It’s how we met all of Solesides, Quannum, Dilated, The Legends, Hieroglyphics, Battle Axe, The Beat Junkies, Def Jux, and The Sayers. These are our people.”

T.JONES: “How has your live show evolved? What is your favorite part of your live show?”
KARIM: “We’ve always had a hype stage show. Now, it’s just liver. To be honest, I see the Legends’ rock, along with KRS, and I try to make my stage show an equal amount of both. Hyped, full of energy. We got to tour and build with KRS recently. Seeing him rock night after night, was incredible. He’s the best ever. The Legends, man, those are my homies. They rip every stage they walk on, into pieces. They are the best in the business. Busta is dope live too, along with M.O.P.”

T.JONES: “Do you smoke weed?”
KARIM: “I used to, but not anymore. It’ll make me befriend the couch all day.”

T.JONES: “What is it like living in Seattle? What is the hip-hop scene like?”
KARIM: “Seattle is cool. It’s home. The hip-hop scene is full of talent. The producers here are really helping to craft the sound. We’re all good friends. The one thing that holds Seattle back is the side-talk. Seattle’s full of jealous ass b*tches who will smile in your face, give you hugs, and even buy you drinks. As soon as you ain’t around, they’ll start the sh*t talk like, ‘I heard he…’ sh*t. It’s self-destructing, the game. I’ve never seen another city so caught up in it. Ask anyone. Sh*t, I’m a part of it myself.”

T.JONES: “Who are your biggest influences?”
KARIM: “KRS-One, Wu Tang Clan, Pharoahe Monch, Portishead, Run-DMC, Public Enemy.”

T.JONES: “Abortion. Pro-life or pro-choice?”
KARIM: “Choice.”

T.JONES: “Death penalty. For or against?”
KARIM: “For.”

T.JONES: “Where were you on the September 11th terrorist attack? How did you deal with it? How has it affected the music industry?”
KARIM: “I was in bed when I got the call to turn on the TV. I stayed in front of the TV for a week. It was a huge wakeup call to everyone.”

T.JONES: “How do you feel about the U.S. involvement in the Middle East?”

KARIM: “I don’t agree with the length they’ve been out there, but I do want to see them get that f*cker Bin Laden.”

T.JONES: “Word association. I am going to say the name of a group or artist or person and you say the first word that pops into your head. So, if I said ‘Public Enemy’, you may say ‘Revolution’ or ‘Fight The Power’. If I said ‘The Beatles’, you may say ‘Revolver’ or ‘Yoko Ono’. Okay?”

T.JONES: “Jurassic 5.”

KARIM: “Charlie 2na.”

T.JONES: “50 Cent.”
KARIM: “Connecticut.”

T.JONES: “Eminem.”
KARIM: “*ss Like That.”

T.JONES: “Jay-Z.”
KARIM: “The best.”

T.JONES: “Atmosphere.”
KARIM: “Thank You, Slug!”

T.JONES: “Dead Prez.”
KARIM: “Be Healthy.”

T.JONES: “Pharcyde.”
KARIM: “LabCabin.”

T.JONES: “Phife Dawg.”
KARIM: “Problems, woe is me.”

T.JONES: “Jamiroqaui.”
KARIM: “Conveyor Belt.”

T.JONES: “Rakim.”
KARIM: “Mahogany.”

T.JONES: “Lyrics Born.”
KARIM: “The homie.”

T.JONES: “Necro.”
KARIM: “Dope Beats.”

T.JONES: “Tom Green.”

KARIM: “He Lost Drew.”

T.JONES: “Alice In Chains.”

KARIM: “I think they’re from Seattle, right?”

T.JONES: “Gil-Scott Heron.”

KARIM: “I brought him to Oregon once, for a show.”

T.JONES: “George Bush.”

KARIM: “Pretty much a piece of sh*t.”

T.JONES: “Who are some artists would you like to work with in the future?”
KARIM: “Pharoahe Monch, The Rza, Dre, Primo, and J Dilla.”

T.JONES: “What was the biggest mistake you have made in your career?”
KARIM: “Starting businesses with my closest friends.”

T.JONES: “What advice would you give to an up and coming hip-hop group?”

KARIM: “Quit now! Nah, make sure you are being true to yourself. Don’t let people soup you up.”

T.JONES: “What do you think hip-hop needs these days? What is it lacking?”
KARIM: “Hip-hop needs more Bumpy Knucks and M.O.P.! It needs less people and labels offering deals.”

T.JONES: “What song are you most proud of?”
KARIM: “‘Welcome To Seattle’. F*ck it, let’s put my city on the map.”

T.JONES: “What CDs or LPs have been in your CD player or on your turntable recently?”

KARIM: “Styles P ‘Ghost in the Shell Pt. 2’, Common’s ‘Be’, Sean Price’s ‘Monkey Bars’, and Jake One’s beat CDs.”

T.JONES: “What else have you been listening to lately?”
KARIM: “Ghostface, Styles P, and my girlfriend bitch about cleaning the house.”

T.JONES: “Favorite movies?”
KARIM: “Scarface, Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade, Kill Bill Vol. 1”

T.JONES: “If you could remake any classic hip-hop song, what would it be?”
KARIM: “Probably, ‘Protect Ya Neck’ by Wu-Tang, do the Oldominion remake.”

T.JONES: “How did you hook up with Rakaa from Dilated Peoples for ‘Cut Down Ya Options’? How was that collaboration different from other collaborations?”
KARIM: “I knew them through shows we promoted. Rakaa and I had talked about doing something for like 3 years. When we found the beat, we made the call.”

T.JONES: “What do you do when you are incredibly stressed out?”
KARIM: “I go down to Oregon to visit my parents and brothers.”

T.JONES: “What are some major misconceptions that people have of you?”
KARIM: “That I’m a d*ck, who is hard to work with.”

T.JONES: “How do you think that The Boom Bap Project has matured, evolved or changed as a group?”

KARIM: “We’ve definitely matured and evolved. Our music and overall skills evolved, and are still evolving. The next Boom Bap record is going to be a monster.”

T.JONES: “Will there be solo albums?”
KARIM: “Destro is doing one now. I’m working on a project with Cool Nutz called, ‘Coke Rap’. You might also see something with me and One Be Lo, the Dickhead Tracy sh*t.”

T.JONES: “In hip-hop, what kind of styles of styles do you see coming in the future?”
KARIM: “Who knows man? Whatever Ludacris does, people will bite. That dude is a monster.”

T.JONES: “What is in the future for The Boom Bap Project? Collaborations? Tours? Remixes? Collaborations?”

KARIM: “Look out for the Live and Direct Tour with us, Hieroglyphics, Non Phixion, and O.C., July through September. Look for The Boom Bap Project and some of the Visionaries homies in the U.S. and Europe, September through November. Look for another 12’’ and maybe, a video soon, as well. New Boom Bap Project album in 2006 will be a beast!”

T.JONES: “Any final words?”

KARIM: “Support my crew, Oldominion, Grayskul, Sleep, Snafu, Nyqwil, Siren’s Echo, Onry’s solo, and the rest. Support it. Peace.”


 


THANK YOU KARIM of The Boom Bap Project!!!


-interview done by Todd E. Jones aka The New Jeru Poet
    (toddejones@yahoo.com)
 
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MUSIC:
"Rock The Spot"
"Wyle Out" (f/ Gift Of Gab from Blackalicious)



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