by Todd E. Jones aka The New Jeru Poet |
Dwele is a different kind of soul. Straight out of Detroit, he began as an emcee but soon changed his style into singing soul music. While many popular rappers change their style and become singers, Dwele gained his popularity after he changed his style to singing. He independently released his debut solo album ‘The Rize’. He sold it out of his trunk and sold out the first week. The album soon was bootlegged and burned by thousands of people. Eventually, it traveled all over the world. People began to take notice on his hush, whispering vocal style. Dwele earned worldwide recognition for the unique and soulful vocals on the Slum Village song ‘Tainted’. The melody and his voice stuck in listener’s heads. Now, Dwele finally released his proper solo album ‘Subject’ on Virgin Records. Songs like “Find A Way”, “A.N.G.E.L.” featuring Slum Village, “Lady At Mahogany”, and “Kick Out Of You” are all powerful, fun, and emotional. Critics have hailed Dwele as one of the leaders of the ‘Nu-Soul’ or ‘Neo-Soul’ movement. He has become one of the most respected new soul artists today and one of Detroit’s greatest exports. On a hot summer night in August 2003, I had an in-depth conversation with Dwele about Detroit, the label of ‘Neo-Soul’, women, Slum Village, instruments, the future of soul music and much more. With a cool flow and a hush vocal style, Dwele enlightens us with his unique approach to soul music.
T.JONES: “How are
you doing?”
DWELE: “I’m okay!
I’m loving the sunshine out here in Detroit! It’s a good day!”
T.JONES: “Your new
album is called ‘Subject’. Tell us about it? Who is on it? Who produced
it?”
DWELE: “I have production
by G-1 out of L.A. Ron Estill out of Detroit. I worked with DJ Jazzy Jeff’s
Touch Of Jazz on a song. I worked with Rafael Saddiq and Jack And The Phatman.
Also, Mann who is also out of L.A. The rest of the album is pretty much
produced by myself.”
T.JONES: “Can you
explain the title 'Subject'?”
DWELE: “I called
the album ‘Subject’ because I look at the album as my work of art, like
the way a sculptor or a sketch artist would look at his work. In order
to work, he needs a subject. In this case, my subject is women. In order
to come to work, you have to study everything about the subject, what makes
the subject what it is. In saying that, I had a lot of fun with this album.”
T.JONES: “Do you
have a favorite song on ‘Subject?”
DWELE: “I have a
lot of favorites but if I had to choose a favorite, it would probably be
‘The Truth’.”
T.JONES: “How old
were you when you first got into singing and how did you get into it?”
DWELE: “I first
started singing seriously when I was about 19 or 20. I actually started
off rapping. I would make tapes. People would listen to the songs and say,
‘I like that song’ or ‘I like this song’. They would always gravitate more
towards the vocal songs, the one with singing. I thought to myself, ‘I
may have something here with these vocals’. I thought that I should try
singing. I put out an album called ‘The Rize’ album. I sold 100 copies.
It sold out in one week. If I had known that it would have sold that quickly,
I would have made more. It got bootlegged and made its way across the globe
to London, Amsterdam, China and back to Detroit again.”
T.JONES: “Are you
ever going to rap on any of your songs again?”
DWELE: “Yeah! Most
definitely! I feel rap. I still rap to this day but it just didn’t come
out on this album. On the ‘Subject’ album, I didn’t really want to put
too many different elements on the album. It would confuse people and the
label and then, the label wouldn’t know how to market it. The 1st album
is pretty much kept to singing.”
T.JONES: “How did
you get the name Dwele?”
DWELE: “My full
name is Andwele. It’s a Swahili name. When my mother was pregnant, she
was reading through a book with African names and every time she would
say the name ‘Andwele’, I would start kicking.”
T.JONES: “In one
phrase or sentence, how would you describe growing up in Detroit?”
DWELE: “A lot of
ups and a lot of downs, like anywhere else.”
T.JONES: “What was
one of the first songs that made you fall in love with music and inspired
you to become a musician?”
DWELE: “Wow! Good
question. Stevie Wonder’s ‘Contusions’.”
T.JONES: “As a singer
and a producer, who are some of your major influences?”
DWELE: “Without
a doubt, Stevie Wonder and Donnie Hathaway on vocals. Stevie Wonder especially
on production. Roy Ayers. I grew up on a lot of Miles Davis and Freddy
Hubbard. I grew up on a lot of jazz musicians.”
T.JONES: “Do you
go into the studio with pre-written rhymes and themes or do you hear the
beat first and write then and there?”
DWELE: “I usually
make the music first and let the music dictate what I write. That is most
of the time. Sometimes, I do come in with pre-written lyrics or melodies
and I build around that.”
T.JONES: “How did
you hook up with Slum Village?”
DWELE: “I actually
connected with Slum Village in 1996-7. I was playing in this club called
Café Mahogany. They would come down every Sunday and freestyle.
At the time, I was rapping so that was like our common ground. That’s how
we got to know each other. We started rapping. We just grew from there.”
T.JONES: “Is Jay
Dee back in Slum Village?”
DWELE: “I’m not
sure. I know that Jay Dee did do a couple of songs on their new album.
He’s rapping on a couple of songs as well.”
T.JONES: “What is
going to happen to Elzhi?”
DWELE: “Nah, nah.
Elzhi is still doing his thing.”
T.JONES: “What do
you do to preserve you voice?”
DWELE: “I do me…
everyday. I really don’t do anything. I drink water.”
T.JONES: “What emcee/group
would you like to collaborate with in the future?”
DWELE: “I’d like
to collaborate with a lot of artists. Billal, Jill Scott, The Neptunes.
I want to collaborate with everybody.”
T.JONES: “You are
considered both an R&B and a hip-hop artist. You have worked on both
types of songs too. How is making a hip-hop song different from making
an R&B song?”
DWELE: “Yea, I think
it’s different in a way that making a hip-hop song is really more about
the groove than about the lyric. When you’re making an R&B song or
a slow song, it’s about the lyrics too but it’s mainly about the music.
You have changes in the music. It’s just a lot more musical. You have to
put in a lot more musically.”
T.JONES: “What was
the last incident of racism you experienced?”
DWELE: “I have to
say that last week, we were in Belgium. We were at a hotel and we walked
into a restaurant. The guy didn’t want to give us any menus. He said that
they were closed but people were coming in and sitting down at the same
time. I think that it may also have something to do with the fact that
we are Americans.”
T.JONES: “Where were
you on Sept. 11th, 2002? How did you deal with it? How do you think it
has affected or will affect the music industry?”
DWELE: “On September
11th, I was on an airplane on my way to L.A. Thank God the plane never
left the ground. We got on before the incident happened. We were actually
on the plane when it happened. The Captain came over the air and said that
there wasn’t any aviation in the U.S. He couldn’t give us any details but
we knew something about a plane crash. He said that we could use our cell-phones
while we taxi to the gate. It was chaotic because one person turned their
cell phone and actually got through to somebody. They told the person that
a plane hit the World Trade Center. Everybody’s first reaction was ‘Wow!
That’s horrible!’. Then, the guy told us that a plane hit the Pentagon.
At that point, we all thought ‘Oh my God! We’re at war!’ Everyone looked
at the person next to them. It got real crazy on the plane. It really affected
music a lot. It affected the whole industry. A lot of people were scared
to leave their city, to get on planes, to continue traveling. It seemed
like the record labels were scared to spend money. They didn’t want to
throw money out there because they may not get it back. I think that it
put a halt on everything.”
T.JONES: “Word association
time. I’m going to say a name of a group/emcee and you say the first word
that pops in your head. So, if I say ‘Chuck D’, you may say ‘Revolution’.
Okay?”
DWELE: “Right.”
T.JONES: “Cody ChesnuTT”
DWELE: “Guitar groove.”
T.JONES: “Common”
DWELE: “Green sweater.”
T.JONES: “Eminem”
DWELE: “Blond hair
and a t-shirt.”
T.JONES: “Curtis
Mayfield”
DWELE: “Soul at
its best.”
T.JONES: “George
Bush”
DWELE: “Ah, don’t
do that to me.”
T.JONES: “What classic
song would you like to remake?”
DWELE: “If I could
remake a classic, it would be ‘This Christmas’ by Donnie Hathaway.”
T.JONES: “What is
the biggest misconception people have of you?”
DWELE: “Right now,
when people see me, they think I’m a rapper. I’m not really a rapper anymore.”
T.JONES: “Many people
have labeled you as part of the ‘neo-soul’ or ‘nu-soul’ movement. How do
you feel about that?”
DWELE: “I take it
as a compliment, the fact that they compare me to those cats. As far as
the label goes, I don’t want to be labeled something. I would rather just
call my music ‘soul’ music.”
T.JONES: “When you
go on tour, do you have a full band with you?”
DWELE: “Yeah, we
have a drummer, a guitar player, a bass player, a keyboard player too.”
T.JONES: “Detroit
has blown up as a center for music creativity. Back in the day, you had
Motown and even other forms of music but it took a long time for hip-hop/R&B.
Why do you think this took so long?”
DWELE: “I just think
that it was Detroit’s time. Electronic music played a big part in Detroit
blowing up and actually putting Detroit in the forefront of music again.
The music of Detroit brings people from all over the world to Detroit.
I really just think that it’s our time now. I really do.”
T.JONES: “Your singing
style is not brash and loud. It is lush with a whispering quality to it.
Was this a style that you thought out or was it something that just happened
naturally?”
DWELE: “It just
happened that way. It’s just the way I sing.”
T.JONES: “What is
the biggest mistake you have made in your career?”
DWELE: “That’s a
good question! I really don’t know how to answer that. I really don’t think
that I have made too many mistakes because my album is out right now and
I’m happy. I think everything happens for a reason.”
T.JONES: “Can you
explain the song ‘Lady At Mahogany’?”
DWELE: “That song
was based on a story, a little something that happened back in the day
at this place called Café Mahogany. Café Mahogany was this
place where you could see live bands and hear poetry. It was a real cool-out
and relaxing atmosphere. It was just one incident that went down. It’s
somewhat of a true story but I elaborated on it a little bit. I made it
a little bit more dramatic.
T.JONES: “What is
next in the future for Dwele?”
DWELE: “Who knows.
Right now, just a lot of touring, fun, and a lot of seeing the world. As
far as albums go, I don’t know how I may feel in the future. I might go
more towards production or I may become a rapper. Who knows? I might put
out a trumpet album.”
T.JONES: “What other
instruments do you play?”
DWELE: “I play piano,
trumpet, a little bit of bass, a little bit of guitar.”
T.JONES: “Do you
have a favorite instrument?”
DWELE: “My favorite
would probably be keyboard. If I only had one instrument, it would be a
keyboard. Technology, at this point, nowadays, every single instrument
sound is on a keyboard.”
T.JONES: “What kind
of keyboard or organ were you playing in the Slum Village ‘Tainted’ video?”
DWELE: “I have no
idea what kind of keyboard that was! I think it was an organ. It was dope!
I wish that I could bring that back with me. I loved that thing.”
T.JONES: “What is
your favorite part of your live show?”
DWELE: “My favorite
part of my live show is when I interact with the crowd. You never know
what’s going to happen. You never know what somebody is going to scream
out.”
T.JONES: “Who are
you going on tour with?”
DWELE: “Right now,
it’s just me and the band. In late September, I’m supposed to be going
on tour with Slum Village again.”
T.JONES: “What’s
the next single off of the ‘Subject’ album?”
DWELE: “The next
single after ‘Find A Way’… I’m not sure but I’m almost positive that it
will be ‘Money Don’t Mean A Thing’.”
T.JONES: “How is
the album ‘Subject’ doing?”
DWELE: “Pretty good
considering I don’t have a video out for it.”
T.JONES: “Are you
going to make a video for the album?”
DWELE: “Yeah, we’re
actually going to shoot the video next week for ‘Find A Way’. Then, we
will do one for ‘Money Don’t Mean A Thing’.”
T.JONES: “Any final
words for the people who are reading this?”
DWELE: “If you don’t
have the album ‘Subject’, go get it! Don’t bootleg it, don’t burn it. That
was alright with the ‘Rize’ album but I need the sound scans on this one.
Go check it out and I hope you’ll enjoy it.”
THANK YOU DWELE ! ! !
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