by Todd E. Jones aka The New Jeru Poet |
Electronic music has evolved into a myriad of different categories and styles. There is techno, ambient, dub, break-beat, house, acid-house, industrial, ambient, chill-out, etc. The list is endless. England’s trip-hop pioneers, Massive Attack were one the forefront of a movement and have influences thousands of people. Like Massive Attack’s later work, Teargas & Plateglass have that deep, dark sound and eerie atmosphere to their soundscapes along with thick rhythms and both sinister and angelic melodies. Teargas & Plateglass are not just an ‘illbient’ group but hip-hop is also apart of their music. Extremely reclusive and hardly ever photographed, Teargas & Plateglass have become an enigmatic group breaking the boundaries of music in general. They have done “beat-inspired mellow dramatic” remixes for 311, Natacha Atlas, Noise Conspiracy, Tweaker, David Sylvian, and Oba Funke. On the critically acclaimed “Being Black” compilation, they provided the music for poetess Ursula Rucker (who has been on almost all of the LPs by The Roots). In 2004, Waxploitation Records released their debut self-titled album, which took 3 years to record. While many other electronic groups make music strictly for dance floors, Teargas & Plateglass have weird, wild, and extremely dark rhythm and melodies. Like Severed Heads, they take chances and are unaware of where the music may take them. They let the music take control. They also have been known to talk of their creative process as if a ghost was leading them. The self-titled debut album by Teargas & Plateglass has some magnificent songs. “Adam’s Lullaby (remix)” features glorious vocals by Natacha Atlas. Both beautiful and sad, the song is a perfect theme for a precious moment. Fans of later Massive Attack would be extremely proud. Other incredible songs include “A Book Of Black Valentines” and “The Rain Falling On Ann’s Grave”. Besides Natacha Atlas, other guests include Lil Gong, Zap Mama, and Oba Funke. During the hot Spring of 2004, I spoke to the enigmatic and reclusive group. Enter the world of thick rhythm and dark melodies. Embrace the darkness and let the music take you away.
T.JONES: “What goes
on?"
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Just getting in. Really need some coffee but recently switched to this
green/white tea stuff. Less jittery on it, but there’s no kick to it. Oh
well.”
T.JONES: “Your debut
self-titled album is coming out. Tell us about it.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“ Hmmmmm. Are we allowed to say no comment? It’s just kind
of what it is. It’s just a ghost to us. Very, very intangible. We
didn’t really set out with a specific goal. We just let it happen and this
is what happened. It’s like being connected to a machine via an umbilical
cord. It was a very subconscious experience.”
T.JONES: “How long
did it take you to record it?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“3 years at least. We work really slow and require long breaks.”
T.JONES: “What is
your favorite song on the album?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“There’s a bonus track on the album that was an early sketch of something
we wanted to do and could never really do it right, but we put it on anyway
and since it’s a song that we listened to the least, it still sounds fresh.”
T.JONES: “Can you
explain the songwriting process?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“It’s alchemy. We primarily find certain notes and sounds that feel right
and then use them as the core message. Then start to layer the songs with
a wash of other sounds until it feels right. The way we work, there’s more
randomness to the process than not. That’s one of the reasons it takes
a lot of time to craft. Some, if not most if the initial work, is not able
to be repeated. There’s a convergence of sounds, and so much
happening on different tracks with a certain density of effects, that once
we are recording live, a lot happens that we can’t control.”
T.JONES: “Besides
the obvious reason, how is making an instrumental track different from
track with vocals? Do you approach it differently? What makes you add vocals
to it?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“It’s odd. A lot of our instrumentals started out with vocals. There’s
something great about using vocals to help make a song have a certain construction
to it. It keeps the momentum going from start to finish since you want
to change things up. For example, intro, verse, pre chorus, chorus, bridge.
Having vocals helps you keep a mark on the feel of things, but a lot of
times, we have vocals and then delete them at the end. It’s maybe counterintuitive
to conventional songwriting, but it works well for us.”
T.JONES: “How did
you get involved with Waxploitation Records?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Let’s just say it was Faustian in nature, ok?”
T.JONES: “How did
you get involved with Natacha Atlas on the remix for ‘Adam’s Lullaby’?
What was she like to work with?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“We heard her original version of Adam’s Lullaby and were totally blown
away by the dynamic of it. The vocal performance and melody was inexplicably
soft and sweet, but also bittersweet. Very few artists can do that. It
really moved us. But the original music of the song was very rich and uplifting…and
we felt that it cried out to be taken in a different direction, so we asked
her label if we could re-create the song with more of a sense of desperation.
The result of it is on our album. Shout out to The Beggars Group for letting
it happen.”
T.JONES: “How did
you guys meet and eventually form the group?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“We’re a collective that adds and loses members from time to time. So it’s
not really a ‘group’ in that sense. The only thing we all have
in common is, we love dark music and we love beats and we all are damaged
goods.”
T.JONES: “What is
the meaning behind the name Teargas & Plateglass?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“When we were originally writing the album, it was during a period of time
when people were uprising against the IMF, amongst other things and it
seemed like there was a surge in local peoples trying to take a stand against
globalization…so we kept seeing similar images on television, but all in
different regions of the world. It was very poignant while we were making
the album. One day, we were listening to albums and there was a line in
a song by a great artist named A Silver Mt. Zion, that went ‘Let our crowds
be fed on teargas and plateglass, because a people united is a wonderful
thing’ and it just stuck as a phrase that was compelling and felt right
to us.”
T.JONES: “What equipment
do you use?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“A mix of analog and digital gear. Vinyl, tape delay, plate reverb, samplers.
We record and mix in Logic. We’re not really gearheads. We just have things
that people send to us and use most of it in ways that are probably not
the intent of the manufacturer.”
T.JONES: “Which instruments
are your favorites?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Tape delay is the shit.”
T.JONES: “When did
you first begin making music? What was it like?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Inspiring. Transforming. Cathartic.”
T.JONES: “How were
you making a living before or outside music?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Soul sapping sh*t jobs like telemarketing, delivering food to fraternities,
the usual.”
T.JONES: “Who are
your biggest influences?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Akira Kurosawa, Wu Tang Clan, Noam Chomsky, Low, Philip Glass, El-P. Stanley
Kubrick, Lee Scratch Perry, Morihei Ueshiba, King Tubby, Elliott
Smith, Hans Simmer, Will Oldham, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Bob Marley,
Dmitri, Shostakovich, Yellowman, William Gibson.”
T.JONES: “Some people
classify your music as Drum & Bass or Electronica. How do you feel
about that?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Not a problem for us. DJ Spooky coined that term ‘llbient’, right? That
works for us too.”
T.JONES: “How did
you get involved in the ‘Being Black’ CD?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Faust.”
T.JONES: “In an interview,
you said, ‘Every thing on the album was like being visited by a hungry
ghost’. Can you explain that more?"
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“A ‘hungry ghost’ is a Tibetan reference to a person who is always searching
without rest. Probably something related to Buddhism. It’s a phrase that
seemed to best describe the feeling we have when writing and recording.
It always feels like there’s a poltergeist at work, and that our hands
and fingers are simply a vehicle for these visiting ghosts to communicate
something so they can move on.”
T.JONES: “The cover
was done by Sebastiao Salgado. Can you explain the cover? What do you like
about the cover? How did you get involved with Sebastiao Salgado?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Sebastio Salgado is one of the most important photo journalists / photo
essayists of any generation. He goes to the most tortured places in the
world and allows or forces the rest of us to bear witness. He is a very
important artist to us. We felt the cover photo was not just obviously
sadly stunning and thought provoking, but also a good metaphor for the
state of the world right now. People staring right into each other’s eyes,
being totally conscious of everything happening, but there’s that decaying
train in the background, moving away. It feels, to us, that the events
of the world are happening without a way to stop them or have an impact
on them. Clearly, the child has been deserted. Pretty overwhelming.”
T.JONES: “Abortion.
Pro-life or pro-choice?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Pro-Choice.”
T.JONES: “Death penalty.
For or against?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Probably against. It’s a really complex issue.”
T.JONES: “Where were
you on the September 11th terrorist attack? How did you deal with it? How
has it affected the music industry?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Los Angeles. What a surreal experience. We just dealt with
it like most other people. Watched it unfold on the television and tried
to communicate with as many people around us as possible and try to help
out any friends and family we had in New York. It affected the music industry,
like every industry. It’s pretty depressing to think about how the world
was. For the briefest moment, all on our side, right after September 11th,
there was a moment when the US could have helped lead a worldwide effort
to make peoples’ lives better but they totally squandered it. I doubt that
kind of thing will happen again in our lifetime. Makes it hard to not be
cynical sometimes.”
T.JONES: “How do
you feel about the U.S. involvement in the Middle East?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Seems like it’s a mess. There seems to be some genuinely kind, humanitarian,
smart people over there, even in the military. They are there to help the
people of Iraq, even in the military but also a pretty serious lack of
knowledge of history and how the U.S. is perceived there as well as an
understanding how the different religious sects operate. Good intentions
don’t count for much with this level of mistrust and misunderstanding.
It is what it is.”
T.JONES: “Word association. I am going to say the name of a group or artist or person and you say the first word that pops into your head. So, if I said ‘Public Enemy’, you may say ‘Revolution’ or ‘Fight The Power’. If I said ‘The Beatles’, you may say ‘Revolver’ or ‘Yoko Ono’. Okay?”
T.JONES: “Jurassic
5.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Too commercial.”
T.JONES: “50 Cent.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Too boring.”
T.JONES: “Eminem.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Underrated producer.”
T.JONES: “Severed
Heads.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Rwanda.”
T.JONES: “Massive
Attack.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Geniuses.”
T.JONES: “Happy Mondays.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Kill the ravers.”
T.JONES: “Jay-Z.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Don’t retire.”
T.JONES: “New Order.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Joy Division.”
T.JONES: “Jamiroqaui.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Yawn.”
T.JONES: “George
Clinton.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“F*cking freak.”
T.JONES: “The Roots.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Philly girls.”
T.JONES: “Gil-Scott
Heron.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Immortal.”
T.JONES: “George
Bush.”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Who knows.”
T.JONES: “Which artist
would you like to work with in the future who you haven’t worked with yet?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Mimi Parker, Scarface, Buju Banton, Method Man, Octavious, Sara Lov, Ivy
Queen, Will Oldham, Trick Daddy, Albert Griffiths, Dead Prez.”
T.JONES: “How do
you approach remixes? Do you strip the songs down? Do you just add to it?
What goes on?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“We usually just write a song that is inspired by the vocals of the original
song and then put the original a capella over it. They are less ‘remixes’
and more ‘interpretations’. So it’s a lot of new composition and production.”
T.JONES: “What remix
are you most proud of?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Our ‘Zero 7’ remix that will never see the light of day for whatever reason.”
T.JONES: “Production-wise,
what is the best produced album you have ever heard?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Danger Mouse’s Grey Album.”
T.JONES: “What CDs
or LPs have been in your CD player or on your turntable recently?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Tweaker’s ‘2a.m. wakeup call’ CD, ‘Wolfpac Mixtape Volume 1’ CD by J.
Wells, Beck’s ‘Sea Change’ CD, ‘Deep Space 9mm’ single by El-P, Danger
Mouse & Jemini ‘Ghetto Pop Life’ CD, Hymie’s Basement ‘Hymie’s Basement’
CD, RJD2 ‘Exotic Talk’ single, Killing Joke ‘Killing Joke’ CD, Viktor Vaughn
‘Vaudeville Villain’ CD, Dopestyle 1231 ‘KutMasta Kurt Presents Dopestyle
1231’, Sevara Nazarkhan ‘Yol Bolsi’ CD.”
T.JONES: “You worked
with Ursula Rucker. How did you hook up with her and what was that collaboration
like?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“She recorded these passages from a book by Angel Kyodo Williams and gave
us the spoken word to one called ‘When We Are Ignorant’ and we put it down
on top of a track we were working on for our own album. It just seemed
to fit nicely. It’s a really short, simple interlude. The track ended up
on the Being Black CD. She’s an amazing artist and amazing woman.
Powerful.”
T.JONES: “Favorite
drug?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Sleep.”
T.JONES: “Are you
for the legalization of marijuana?
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Sure.”
T.JONES: “Favorite
movies?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Anything by Akira Kurosawa or Stanley Kubrick. Shout out to Netflix.”
T.JONES: “What is
in the future for Teargas & Plateglass? Remixes? Collaborations? Tours?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“We are remixing a tweaker song featuring Jennifer Charles from Elysian
Fields. We are desperately trying to get VP Records to send us the parts
for Buju Banton’s ‘Paid Not Played’ so we can remix it. Also working on
an EP that we want to put out pretty soon. We thought we’d take a year
off, but we were moved by some things that we feel compelled to unleash.
So hopefully, we will release it early next year.”
T.JONES: “Any final
words for the people who will be reading this?”
TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS:
“Want to thank our family and friends and extended music community for
all the love and support. Thanks, Todd. Your questions were
unusually thought provoking.”
Thank you TEARGAS & PLATEGLASS ! ! !
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www.waxploitation.com/
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