you hate me! you really hate me!



Here is the super crappy hate mail page. Everything is messed up since we are still working on it and sorting through 368 emails. I mostly left out my responses since I just say the same things over and over.



First, lets start out with a gem of the week:



From: "gambi"
To: howtodressemo@yahoo.com
Subject: Please hear me!!!some tips for emo stuff!!!



Read the whole thing first, before you trash it.

I am not trying to insult you. I am just purely surprized by the thoughts of what you believe is 'officially' emo. I am a 19 year old female 5'10, 180lbs. and I am obese to the extent that i have a large midsection (size 14 waist). If you beg to differ that i am not considered emo, please read how much of an individual a person can be while still fitting under the category. I also gave you some helpful hint on how to improve your website.



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This is who I am:



I was born and raised in a small town in Connecticut, grew up on the family dairy and cattle farm away from cable T.V. whole life. I went to many concerts at a local club called Toad's Place and heard many bands of little popularity, which I still enjoy listening to today. I also sing and play acoustic and electric guitar in a band named Regret The Moon (If the name fancies you, too bad, its legally mine.)
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As I mentioned before, I am overweight, but also have muscle tone too. I have tried losing weight numerous times, but seem to have little luck. I am a meat eater who has an extensive knowledge in agricultural production. Therefore, I am aware of the scams that not only go on with meat, but also with vegetables. Did you know that most of the fruits and vegetables which you buy in the grocery store are genetically altered with infused with pesticides. Last year the ASDA recalled 56,000 orders of ORGANICALLY grown broccolli that contained an unually high rate of these chemicals, as a result of a mistake in bio-tech engineering.

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JUST BECAUSE FRUITS AND VEGETABLES ARE ORGANICALLY GROWN DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE ORGANICALLY BRED!!!!!!! Many other fruits and vegetables are engineered with animal genes and cell tissue with those such as frogs. So please, please, please, before you blow-off the meat world, do some more research on it first.

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And by the way, don't.type.like.this. Its really bad for those of who have a genuine need for the thick rimmed glasses. That way too, is also shitty, goddamn annoying. So maybe I will go cry boohooboohoo because I don't like some things on your website, but at least I can do it knowing that I can always do emo with individuality. After all, isn't that why our founding emo fathers started it- to be apart from the rest of the f@#$ked-up society. By the way, don't swear on your website, it shows lack of attention to correct grammar. (okay, so you sound a little stupid.)

THANK YOU FOR READING ME!!! E-MAIL ME: gambi@netzero.net



WHERE DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS COME FROM? Seriously. They are freely roaming the streets. That's scary. I gave her one of my super cool mature answers:



5'10, 180lbs? Wow. I'm 5'10, 120lbs and I thought I
was fat. But I guess not. You're fat. You're fat,
you're fat, you're fat!



she came back with:





At least I don't hang out with anorexia. Dar Har.
I'm afraid of the frail ones. they look TOO hungry to me.



From: ShooBieGirl72@aol.com



you are a bunch of faggots. you do not teach people how to act.fags

<3 meghan



hahah i suppose so. your website is insane, and unecessary. its my opinon and that is yours good day.



i understand that. the website would be good if it were y our veiws on emo. but teaching someone how to act, is making posers. it has good ideas and stuff, and the style page is correct, but i think that if someone is emo, they shouldnt have to research it to become "emo" by someone elses standards.



From: EmoKid1020@aol.com

Subject: what the hell



ok bud you "emo" web site is the stupidest thing i've ever seen. you
dont
advertise emo. emo isn't a fashion. did you eve realize emo is a music
genre.
i could dress totally different from what you're saying the "emo look"
is and
still be a hardcore emo fan. this is the stupidest thing i've ever
seen. can
you even list some real emo bands. this is coming from some very upset
emo
kids.



From: thenonsequitur@hotmail.com
Subject: Your FAQ



Hi, I'd just like to point out how useful your site has been to me in
becoming emo. Only two more pins on my backpack and I get to be a real
emo-kid! Yay! Well, I also have to perfect my sulking-and-depressed
look,
but it's pretty close.



Or something like that.



But anyway, I'm emailing about your faq. I came across this question:



Q: How can you be vegan and wear doc martens?
A: You're not eating the shoes.



While a clever answer, it's not technically correct. Vegan is
anti-animal-products, not anti-eating-animal-products. Even so, I know
a
vegan who bought himself a pair of doc martens. His answer to why he
can
wear doc martens: "They're vegan doc martens". Apparently his pair were
made
completely out of synthetic materials. They cost more than normal doc
martens, but hey, they're vegan.



But by buying them, a vegan is still supporting a company that supports
the
use of animal products. So I'm not really sure how far this "no animal
products" thing can be extended before you're not a vegan. Which makes
me
wonder if honey is really all that vegan, because after all, bees made
it.
But then again, honey's not really part of the bees themselves. And
what
about eating really tiny bugs in the air? Does that count?



But I'm sure you don't really care about any of this and I'm wasting
your
time, so I'll shut up now.


~ben



From: slushydlight@yahoo.com
Subject: hi



hey. im not "emo" or "hard core" or what have u, but
seriously, what compelled u to write this? u could
have written this about any group of people. but being
the little cracka ass white girls that you probably
are u chose the "weaklings" to insult from the safety
of your computer that daddy bought you. every type of
"style" has been done before, so really.. everyone is
a poser. who cares? just the people who take time out
of their 'better than you' lives to point out others
so-called-flaws are the biggest posers of them all.
well, i luv u girls for giving me something to amuse
me for a bit and if u have any comments for me ill be
glad to hear u out :)



-Sara



Nobody calls me a little cracka ass white girl and gets away with it! A plauge on your house!



From: Aam898@aol.com

Subject: hey! i have a question



hi! yesterday i decided i wanted to be emo because i am into that kind of stuff and i like the music. heres the problem. i want some "emo glasses" but i dont need glasses and i dont know where i could buy any. do you have any clue where i could find some?! thanks! please write back while i can still use my brothers credit card!



You're not funny. At all.



From: xtashaxx@hotmail.com
Subject: hiii



hey,

i just wanted to comment that i have also noticed that being emo is
becoming
*trendy* and its in gay ass magazines like ym. anyways i just wanted to
point out to you that your website is not helping the matter. you
shouldnt
tell people how to "become emo" theres no style to it. just be
yourself. and
even if the whole website is a joke to you...people will take it
seriously... being emo doesnt have a style and you dont have to dress a
certain way.

anyways i just wanted to state my opinions.

have a cool rest of the summer

tasha



The thing is, I get great pleasure out of annoying kids like you. So when you write me an email telling me I'm making "posers" it warms my heart because I know what I am doing is working. Horray.



From: EmoGirlTears@aol.com



Hey, I've read all the love and hate mail and I just want to say that
this
page has made me more emo than ever...I especially loved the fat part.
Come
on now, did you really have to go there? It's fun to poke fun at some
things
but the whole weight issue is really taking it too far. Whether you're
over-weight or under-weight, most people are insecure with their
bodies. I'm
really not trying to bitch or "whine", but I couldn't live with myself
if I
read something like that and let it go. I hope you start to see things
from a
different point of view, these people aren't complaining for nothing.
It
would be deeply appreciated if you'd take out the whole weight
paragraph...there's no need for the drama it causes whether it's a joke
or
not ok babe.

p.s. I. promise. I. won't. write. about. this. in. my. dead.journal. ;)



wow. that email address. wow.



From: "ben gooding"



listen fuck face. First of all emo is dead b/c assholes like you try
to
understand it. It WAS a lifestyle with the sole existance of not being
understood. now Blink 182 rape victims like you think you need to make
cheesy websites about it. ok fine make websites i don't really care
but
just keep in mind you are killing the whole scene by opening it up to
people
that don't belong in it.



at least this fuckface can name five real emo bands. unlike someone. ahem.



From: "punk in drublic"

for your own sake, i really hope your website is a big bowl of sarcasm.
making fun of the idiots who actually think there's a way to dress
"Emo". if
not, you're a fucking retard.



well then you took it way beyond it's limits.



nice sarcasm there. jesus, you're so fucking hilarious.



if it's such a god damned problem, why do you continue to reply?
you're just an idiot.



This is funny because I only answered him twice before I blocked his address, yet I'm the one who keeps replying.



From: "hAyLEy ScHmALz"

Subject: damn, i wish i was emo too.



"how to dress emo" ? what kind of a moron are you? there is no way to dress emo. it's a type of music, not a trend. who in their right mind would say "oh MAN, i wear thick glasses and have dark hair, look at me! i'm so emo!"? whoever does needs to be shot three times or perhaps more. it's not about style, its about music. i'm so sick of everyone labeling things, like you have to dress a certain way to like a certain type of music. if you wear a safety pin, you like punk. if you have thick glasses, you like emo. if you wear "phat farm" you like rap. who the fuck cares? music is music, and there should be NO particular way to dress for a type of music. its not a style for christ sakes. i just LOVE how seventeen magazine and tripe like that say "wanna be an emo rocker? well this is how!" it's not what's on the outside that makes you a person, or shows what you like. your style is an art. some people express themselves by dressing a certain way, but by you suggesting that you should wear this and that is just depressing. i'm really dissapointed to know that there are people who supposidly love emo music, and they think that along comes a style with the package. it's really sad, and i hope nobody actually follows through with it. because if you do, i hope you break your arms and legs. because it just shows that music is nothing to you and it's all about styles and trends. materialistic things are a waste of time, and if you surround yourself by them, then you're a waste of time too.



oh, and i really hope this makes it to your "hate mail" section, because you know how special it would make me feel. i hope you get sarcasm.



I get it, evidently you do not.



well, for a sarcastic site, you took it waaaaaaay too far. you should
actually have the real history on emo, and then maybe have a SMALL
section based on your sarcasm because you got into it far too much.



if you want a history of emo site, go to fourfa.com. this is not one, nor will it ever be.



i've been to that site many a time. that's what i was reffering to.



THEN QUIT YER BITCHIN!!



From: XSorryImLeavingx@aol.com

Subject: you're lame



emo is a genre of music- not a fashion statement or a way to act. why are you encouraging stereotypes? i dont understand why you'd want everyone to be the same. you're pathetic. you need to get a life and realize people should all be unique and individuals; not 'emo' clones. i get labeled 'emo' all the time and it's because i LOVE that music, NOT because i read a website telling me to dress a certain way, act a certain way and listen to certain music. if i could, i would burn your website just like i burnt that lame ass copy of 17 because you're just a stereo typing bitch.



congrats. i hope everyone at your school this year all dresses emo and looks exactly the same.



From: LALAPUNK21@aol.com

Subject: WHO ARE YOU!!!



How to dress EMO,

Who the hell are you to tell anyone how to dress. First of all emo is a style of emotional driven punk rock and the point of being punk is to be unique from all of the popular trends. And here you come trying to catagorize and make punk a trend. Wow you made 31711 people EMO, BY TELLING THEM HOW TO DRESS? I think not. The way you dress has nothing to do with being emo. I think you people need to rethink your ideas on how your "MAKING PEOPLE EMO"!!!




From: LUNCHBX203@aol.com
Subject: what the heck



GOD what is wrong with you people? If I eat a blue m&m you gonna send emo police after me? And then waste 100$ on cds cause they are sell outs? GOD! And you have to be skinny? what is up with that? You give emos a bad name.



Joanmarie



GOD i can't believe that you didn't realize that it is
only a joke. GOD what is wrong with you.




Subject: OMG

Well maybe you should not joke about something like that. You give EMOs a bad name!



From: oops. lost this.
Subject: I AM SO ANGERY!!!

Yoop Doodes you think you are sooooooo coool telling people how to be emo WELL YOU ARE NOT YOU ARE NOT DONT EVER THINK THAT!!!!

emo is not a trend or something you can just wear you must BE EMO it is IN YOUR BLOOD i have been emo all my luife since i was in the kidnergrade and i KNOW THAT EMO is what i am because i look like emo and listen to the emo but you cant TAKE THIS AWAY from me becuase emo emoe emo.

Your site...it has misleading information. you arbitraty say: this look is best for pople over a or under a certain age. that is nonsense. those looks are all the same!! EMO IS WHAT I AM and YOU JUST WANT TO BE ASDMO BECUJASE YOU ARE AF A POSOUR!!!!

you NEVER mentioned the mabnd bands still life or sunnde day real estate or the rite of spring or fugazi these are whatt emo is all aboutl. you cant be emo anymore becuase4 emo is dead there is no emo scene. this eenw crap is just pop punk a bout girls boo hoo well DIE!! becuase i hqate you site becuase it is not aha at emo sdis sd you cannt change things!! you and seventeen magazine and ketchup are what is wrong with america!! yo so go die1111D SDAV+


From: TOANS92@aol.com
Subject: give me a break


Fortunately I can say I accidentally stumbled upon your website. I would hate to say that I was looking for it, or that I was looking for the website that would teach me how to look or dress "emo." Emo isn't really the way you look or the way you dress. It is about a certain lifestyle. It isn't about wearing certain shirts, or carrying certain bags, or having a certain hairstyle. Oh and by the way, I am very thin myself, but people who are "Emo" are not just thin, many of them do have a "tank ass." And they would not have any trouble kicking your adoslescent ass. Anyhow, where did you decide this information was true. Although you say your "hate" mail comes from 15 year olds or something, you couldn't be over at least 18 yourself. If you are and you still have these ideals, seek help.(in a hurry) And at least if 15 year olds have enough sense to see that you are ignorant, they probably have a leg up on you. Furthermore, if you can back your information up by an article in Seventeen magazine, you must have found it right next to the article the latest peasant styles.(now that is impressive) Maybe you still have time to learn, but Emo isnt a look, it is a lifestyle. Your ideas on dressing, and acting like an "Emo" girl or boy, are so childish, it reflects on you personally. You are either childish, or immature, or very young. Hopefully you are just very young, otherwise I feel sorry for you. One day you might experience a "real" emo world, and with all of your little emo philosophies, you will be rejected. Oh by the way, I am not 15, I am 21. So if you post this on your website, it wouldn't be right to say I am 15. Although I am sure you won't post it because it just goes to show how immature you are. Also, why don't you send a link to your website to what you think are emo bands and then check out the kind of hate mail you get. Silly little girl.

From: TOANS92@aol.com
Subject: (no subject)

ya know what, I just decided this is a website for a buncha wannabe's, and hopefully your purpose was to make fun of them. I really hope so.

From: TOANS92@aol.com
Subject: aw geez

i really do feel stupid now. That is what I get for only reading like the first half before I decided what this site was about. now i am in awe of your site because there really are people out there who are trying to find out how to be emo or punk, or whatever. What a joke people make themselves into. Silly posers and wannabes.

From: "kevin dunn"
Subject: eat elephant shoes

just to let you know stars are not (and i repeat)are not emo.
kevin
ps your site is really interesting,thanx for giving me somthing to do


From: "Angela Carreiro"

emo doesnt suck! you suck!

From: "Chance Girl"

i was told my personality was "emo." next i was told a few bands i liked were "emo." it got to the point where i was asking "what the fuck is 'emo'?!"

so, being the insomniac i am, i found your site this morning, realized it was a joke and have kept myself amused with it. it's a hilarious site. you've presented it well. now let's see, i have the glasses (out of necessity), i write poetry, i randomly type in all lowercase, i have an online diary...but that's about as far as it really goes. *sighs dramatically* well i guess i'm not emo enough.

i think i'll go knit myself a sweater in the corner of my room, walls blanketed with glow-in-the-dark stars, and never face the world again. ;)

the hate mail section was just as entertaining as the main sections. i guess i can see where some of these people didn't get the joke...er, no, actually i can't.

oh well, at least we can get a kick out of their confusion.

thanks for the laugh,
chance

From: "john riley"
To: howtodressemo@yahoo.com
CC: the_dandy_highwayman_26@hotmail.com
Subject: EMO

gday
i read youre site and it came to mind that if anybody actully took the advice they would be the worst poseurs of all, and it is thanks to you that they are all emerging. It is thanks to you that whenever i go to a gig i am surrounded by all these little shits thinkin they are all hardcore or even worse trying to be strange. They are so transparent they look like dickheads and make me ashamed for being in the same place as them. It is thanks to people like you i no-longer like emo or punk or any of that music because it is now associated with these types of people who come to websites to learn how to be a certain way. The only good thing about this is they arent trying to become rappers however this isnt too much better.
bye from Ben Riley


From: "dustin hogue"

HI

I CAN'T BELIEVE EMO ISN'T UNDERGROUND ANYMORE!!!! I'M SAAAAAD NOOOOWW!


Subject: Emo Website Feedback
From: "Linn, Pete"

Thanks for helping others get their arms around the concept of "emo." My friends and I have noticed this sociological phenomenon developing for some time now, but we simply referred to these folks as "retros" or "indies" . The division of emos into indie, nerdy and preppy was especially useful in catgorizing the diversity within the emo community. Help me out, though - are dudes that have the Beattles-esque, bowl-shaped hair cuts emo? Seems to me they would be...


From: "Magdalena Syper"

hey this site is gay everything u say sounds gay nothing u said about emo is true you prep poser


From: "ash"
Subject: in response to a hate mail letter, this is a love mail.

the kat girl, fidgitpunker@yahoo.com yeah her. does she really think you're serious? i mean this website is FUNNY. thats the point. its making fun of the trend followers... yes, the trend followers. cry emo nerds, cry your sad little hearts out. ash.


From: "Mouse Moomba"
Subject: I just came across your site and loved it!

I love the "how to be emo" site. It really shows just how stupid labels are. It had me laughing for an hour. It's ashame that some people think it's a real site, that just shows stupidity. But I really like the site, you have a bunch of information on it, it looks like it took a lot of time to make, and it looks great.

-Mouse


From: "James"

Not only do I go to an arts school, but I work at a music store, so I deal with emo kids all the time. At the store, they ask about obscure badns, and scoff at us when thier listing doesn't come up in the computer. Then the go to the used CD rack and try to find the most beat up CD witht he weirdest shit you can imagine. I hate 'em. I try to hit them with my car.

My room mate is dating, or trying to date an emo girl. She can't get over her old boyfriend. He's turning more and more emo everyday. He can't ge over her. Your site defines her to the T, sad as that may be. She even has the hair cut. I hate her.

I think it's funny, that the fad of anti-fads is becoming popular, and more MTV (I mean Dashboard has a video). Soon those emo kids will have no where to go, and they will have something new to cry about.

Your site is funny as hell.
Keep up the good work.


From: Spunjah54@aol.com
Subject: this is not hate male

, you probably do not know much about music, do you?, Posers, but i guess it takes all kinds. Support your scene "emo kids"


From: "Audrey Denton"

okay, I was just wondering if this website is a joke. You sound like you're making fun of emo kids, but who knows. Emo music is about the music, not the image. You don't have to dress a certain way to be emo. Emo bands are bands who have a lot of emotions and who love music and love to write. Most emo kids don't classify themselves as emo unless they are posers. Also, all emo music doesn't sound the same. There is hardcore emo and stuff. You can tell if someone is emotional by the words they write, not just by how they sound.a lot of kids are trying to be emo because its supposedly the cool thing now, but you shouldn't try to be something your not. But anyway, this isn't hatemail, I'm just telling you my opinion and wondering if you are serious about this.

Ok, I just read some more of your site and realized that it IS a joke ...but are you making fun of emo or kids who try to be emo? Maybe I missed something...But anyway, have you heard Yellowcard? well write me back and tell me because I'm curious.


From: Neontrix@aol.com

childish... oh so childish... and crap


From: KidACuomo@aol.com
Subject: your "emo" site

Hi. Is your site a big ol' joke? Or are you actually serious? It's hard to tell.. the "information" is so copious, it's scary..


From: "gia ramone"
Subject: oi

oi! this is one of the best sites ive seen in a while- youre funny as hell. and the great thing about all this is that it's funny because it's so true. i know so many people like that. hell, i am like that. everyone that goes to school with me makes fun of me for being 'an emo dork who still goes to shows like a high school prom queen'..im going to start sending them all to your site so they can learn about my cultlike experience of being emo. haha, you rock. keep up the site!

-gia


From: Sykrow@aol.com
Subject: your site sucks its so fucking great

i thought some hardcore guy was writting this page, when i found out it was two chicks i was really suprised, cuz just about every girl that likes rock music these days are dressing like these emo 80 wannabe nerds, or just listening to the vocals of a man that hasn't reached puberty yet. seriously can they at least learn how to sing instead of screaching. Sure i hate being dumped, everyone does but why base a whole music genre on being dumped and naming your band "something...day" or "something *any month**..ahh i love you guys...girls - -that's some funny fucking shit mother fuckers..i'm gonna go grab a kleenex now i'm so emo--not--matt


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