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John Edward Collins
wed Mary McCallum 1856

The Abrey family have provided details for the four
surviving children of Eliza Jane Abrey and Edward Collins.

Surnames mentioned on this page
Abrey, Edith Barkla, May Barkla, Day, De Graaff, Duff, Goss
Kirkcaldy, Ling, Mary McCallum, Nicholls, Stewart, Woodland,


From on Thu, 2 Mar 2006

Dear Elizabeth,
The link to John Collins convict came 1821 has connections/descendants by way of Rachael Hoddy/Isaac Williams.

From a Rootsweb page, Rachael Hoddy arrived in Port Jackson on the Lady Juliana and was one of those convicts who were transferred to Norfolk Island and then to VDL per City of Edinburgh. Isaac WILLIAMS was sent to NI after being transported to the colonies on the Matilda in 1791. He "married" Rachael HODDY (who had been sent to NI in 1790 after arriving on the Lady Juliana). Her partner was Isaac Williams of the "Matilda - 1791" and I believe they had the following children:
For what it's worth:
Rachael/Rachel was buried at St David's Hobart on April 4 1836. She was relocated from NI to VDL on 3 Sep 1808 on the City of Edinburgh with 6 children.
Sarah Hoddy - b 19 Feb 1794; d 22 Apr 1795 (reported to have died in a fire?)
Thomas Williams b 5 Oct 1795 m 4 Sep 1816 to Sarah Belbin
Hannah Williams b 6 Feb 1798 d 19 Feb 1850 Ouse VDL m Richard Watson (Anne 2 in 1810) on 4 Oct 1813
Elizabeth Williams b 6 Dec 1799 wed John Collins convict came 1821 on the "LORD HUNGERFORD"
Mary Williams b 2 Jul 1802
Catherine Williams b 24 Jun 1804 became Catherine Palmer,
Harriet Williams b cir 1805
John Williams b?
Another child William Henry was baptised under the name of mother only, Rachel Williams, in 1813 in VDL, so can anyone confirm if Isaac Williams joined his family in VDL?

Isaac was convicted on rape in 1800, sentenced to death, but reprieved. The last record appears to be around 1806, still on NI where he was raising pigs.

From Garry Wilson, Finally I have Rachel's death in 1836, not 1826 as you suggest. Buried 4 April 1836 aged 71 under the name of Rachel Williams. By the 1814 annnual general muster, besides mother Rachel, only Hannah, Thomas, Elizabeth, Mary, Catherine and William are listed. Hannah is listed under her married name of Watson and Rachel and the other children are all under the name of Hoddy! So what became of Sarah, Harriet or John (if he existed)?
And yes, Hannah, Thomas, Elizabeth, Mary and Catherine were all married under the name of Williams, although several of the family continue to appear in musters under the name of Hoddy until their marriage, and sometimes as Williams.


John Edward Collins c1830 - 1862 wed Mary McCallum. She was born Abt. 1836 in Ireland. Edward's parents listed as Ann(e) Collins & John Collins (labourer) on marriage certificate. Edward Collins married Mary McCallum/McCallen (or derivation of) Geelong RC St Marys Church February 1856.

Children of Edward & Mary Collins:
(1) John Collins born Gheringhap (near Geelong) 1856 #13069 who died between 1859 - 1862
(2) Edward Collins b. Geelong abt 1857 died by hanging Dandenong, Victoria April 1914
(3) Marian/Marion Collins b.abt 1858 ------ Ford nr Geelong. Died Queensland March 1919
(4) William Collins born 1859 #19310 at Carngham died Victoria 1895

Mary McCallum b.abt 1835 Ennis, County Clare, Ireland : parents Laurence & Honora. Can't find Mary's death yet, she may have remarried as her husband Edward (senior) died Carngham 1862 & left her with three young children.
Edward's parents listed as Ann(e) Collins & John Collins (labourer) on marriage certificate.

As you know, Edward junior had marriages to;
(1) Eliza Abrey
(2) Eliza Mary Ann De Graaff
(3) Harriet De Graaff

My grandfather Jacob Collins was born in Carisbrook, Victoria. My cousin Geoffrey Collins (father Peter) & I, Suzanne (father Rendal Max) are currently working on our tree. There have been a number of incorrect details recorded for the Collins tree. Geoff & I are hoping to sort it out or certainly add details which can be confirmed by way of BDM certs/oral history.
Descendants of Jacob Collins & Mildred Alice Day are all living, 5 of 7 being in Tasmania, a son in Queensland & a daughter in NSW.

I have been in email contact with Carl Hoddy & Richard Rowe, descendants of John Collins convict/Elizabeth Williams. There is a website for Rachael Hoddy/Williams. They confirm that our Edward (senior) who is alleged born VDL/Tasmania in 1830's is not related to them.

Sincerely
Sue


John Williams married Elizabeth Williams, & their son John Edward/Edwin married Margaret Matilda Poultney in Hamilton, Tasmania 1856. He died in Victoria 1902, with a second marriage registered there.


Edward Collins 30 Nov 1859 - 22 Apr 1914, wed (1) 23 Oct 1878 to Eliza Jane Abrey 1861 - 14 Jan 1887, who died after her 5th child was born, death certificate cites diptitheria.
Edward Collins wed (2) 1887 to Eliza Mary Ann De Graaff born 1864 who died 1889 after her first child Leslie 1888 - 1957 was born at Carisbrook, Victoria.
Edward Collins wed (3) to Harriet De Graaff 1870 - 1950 and had 8 children born at Carisbrook

Eliza and Harriet are sisters, daughters of Jacobus Andrianus De Graaff and Eliza Twite
Edward Collins died 1914 aged 56, suicide by hanging at Dandenong.

5 Children
of Eliza Jane
1. William Edward Collins 1879 - 4th April 1943, wed 1905 to Edith Laura Barkla
2. Charles George Collins 1881 - 11 May 1943 wed 1911 to May Barkla at Newstead, died at Ballarat
3. Robert Thomas Collins 6 Apr 1883 - 29 Aug 1974, wed Edith Mary Duff, died at Smithton, Tasmania
4. Henry Beaver Collins 24 Feb 1885 - 3 June 1947, wed 12th May 1915 to Ruby May Kirkcaldy at Latrobe Tasmania, butcher, died at Sheffield, Tasmania.
5. Emily Jane Collins died 16 Mar 1887, lived 2 months 7 days
Child of Eliza Mary 6. Leslie Collins 1888 - 1957
8 Children
of Harriet
7. Arthur Collins 1891 died as infant
8. Jacob Collins 1893 - 1962 31 December 1893, Cafi, or Carisbrook, Victoria, Australia; d. 21 May 1962, Western Australia.
9. Albert Collins 1895
10. Myrtle Annie Collins 1897 - 1964
11. Roy Collins 1899
12. Herbert Claude Collins 1900 - 1957
13. Ivy May Collins 1903 - 1960, birth not registered
14. James Gordon Collins birth not registered, wed Gertrude Gladys Nicholls

1. William Edward Collins 1879 - 4th April 1943, wed 1905 to Edith Laura Barkla (who is also called Laura Elizabeth Barkla) Children were born at Carisbrook, Victoria, Australia.
2 Children 1. Mavis Hope Collins, c1906.
2. Rex Barkla Collins, c1908 - 1983, wed Beryl Alma Nina Sykes and had 3 daughters.

2. Charles George Collins 1881 - 11 May 1943 died in Dowling Street, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia. He married May Barkla 11 May 1911 in Newstead, Launcston, Tasmania. She was born 1888, and died before 1943 as her Husband is described as 'widower in 1943 at death'.
6 Children 1. Reginald Charles Collins 1912, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia; d. 1985; m. Ada Winifred Stevenson.
2. Raymond Collins 1914 infant death
3. Iris May Collins 1918 - 05 June 1948, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.

3. Robert Thomas Collins was born 06 April 1883 in Waterloo, Victoria, Australia, and died 28 August 1974 in Smithton, Tasmania, Australia. He married Edith Mary Duff, 12 April 1911, daughter of Robert Duff and Eva Harvey Day. She was born 29 March 1886 in West Kentish/ Sheffield, Tasmania, Australia, and died 08 March 1962 in Smithton, Tasmania, Australia.
3 Children 1. Elsie Eliza Collins 13, b. 1913, never married.
2. Renie Mary Collins, b. 29 April 1919, Smithton, Tasmania, Australia, died 11 February 2000, Smithton, Tasmania, Australia. She wed Walter Leonard Ling 30 April 1940 in Smithton Uniting Church, Smithton, Tasmania, son of Anthony Ling and Linda Mason. He was born 04 October 1915 in Smithton, Tasmania, Australia. 6 children

4. Henry Beaver Collins was born 24 February 1885 in Waterloo, Victoria, and died 03 June 1947 in Sheffield, Tasmania, Australia aged 62. He married 12 May 1915 in Latrobe, Tasmania, Australia to Ruby May Kirkcaldy born 18 August 1893 - 30 October 1983 daughter of William Kirkcaldy and Ada Austin born and died in Sheffield, Tasmania.
13 Children
first 5
1. Ruby Annie Collins, b. 29 June 1915, Sheffield, Tasmania; d. 11 April 1968, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, wed Laurence James Goss 29 June 1938 in Sheffield, Tasmania, son of Thomas Goss and Janetta Martin, born 21 December 1905 in Barrington, Tasmania, Australia, and died 09 March 1991 in Tandara Lodge, Sheffield, Tasmania, Australia.
2. William Henry Collins, b. 28 August 1916, Sheffield, Tasmania, wed Jean Sellars
3. George Edward Collins, b. 04 October 1917, Sheffield, Tasmania; d. 05 May 1997, wed Avis Morse
4. Roy Abrey Collins, b. 30 December 1918; d. 30 May 1993, Latrobe, Tasmania, Australia, wed Leata Lavina Duff
5. Harold James Collins, b. 28 May 1920; d. 17 December 1996, wed Olive Goss

6. Leslie Collins Born 1888 in Carrisbrook, Died 1957. He Married Nellie Woodland.
6 Children 1. Annie Elizabeth Collins 1917.
2. Leslie Henry (Ted) Collins 1920.
3. Daisy Collins.
4. Dorothy Collins.
5. Thelma Collins.
6. Glenda Collins.

8. Jacob Collins born 31 December 1893 in Cafi, or Carisbrook, Victoria, Australia, and died 21 May 1962, buried Ulverstone General Cemetery, Tasmania. He married Mildred (Millie) Day 1918. She died 31 July 1961.
7 Children 1. Albert Geroge Edward Collins c1918. 2. Gwendoline Myrtle Collins c1921.

10. Mrytle Annie Collins Born 1897, Died 1964. She Married Unknown.
4 Children 1. Geoffrey.
2. David.
3. Sally.
4. Anne.

12. Herbert Claude Collins Born 1900, Died 1957. He wed Vera Stewart.
1 Child 1. Janice Collins.

14. James Gordon Collins Born 1905 Estimate Only. He wed Gertrude Gladys Nicholls.
1 Child 1. Raymond Collins.

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