I am engaged in ongoing discussions with Muslims about a number of different topics surrounding the Palestinian cause and the State of Israel.
Here is the result of one exchange:And this is the Reply *I* received indicating clearly what Palestinian/Muslim/Arab demands for Israel are:
----- Original Message -----First of all, you stole our land. Why should we accept to give it to you? Second, when the PA accepted to give you 78% of Palestine and take 22%, in return you offered them less than half of the 22% and the offered was nothing more than isolated pantostans surrounded by Jewish settlements and military roads. The offer suggested you control their airspace, their borders, and that they won't have an army. Do you really expect anybody to accept such an offer? Do you call such an offer a state?
Why should accept 10% of Palestine? And even if you decided to return 22% why should we accept that? Why should we even accept 50%?
Anyways, are you willing to give back 50% of what you stole and allow the 5 million refugees back for peace? What do you offer? Last time you said the right for return should be given up for the sake of peace. Do you really think we are some kind of idiots? Do you think peace by itself is a goal? What about rights and justice? Are you willing to withdraw from Jerusalem?
I will tell you something. If the Israelis appologize for their theft and crimes, if they recognize that Israel is not a legitimate state and that creating this state was a sin, if they accept the right of return for the Palestinian refugees, if they accept not to bring anymore Jews to Palestine, if the Jews who still have double nationalities go back to their countries, then we might think about giving the Jews who cannot move anywhere else some part of Palestine we don't need after the refugees return. Perhaps if we are generous enough we will give you 20 to 30% of Palestine to accomodate say 2.5 million Jews (1/2 of Isreal's Jews). The other 2.6 millions will have to go back to their countries. Of course the Jews who are willing to live as Palestinian citizens under a Palestinian state are most welcome if there is enough land to accomodate them.What do you think?
Anyways, I don't believe the Zionists want peace. Their leaders want a Jewish state for all Jews. How can we trust they will not expel the remaining Palestinians to Jordan and bring in few million Jews from around the world to replace them? Why should even trust they won't decide one day to colonize Lebanon and Syria if Palestine alone does not accomodate all Jews? Should we trust they forgot their "Greater Isreal" dream?
When my cousin (or even my brother) steals my land and kills my family, he is no longer my cousin, he is my enemy.