RADHA'S REINCARNATION AS VASANTHA SAI

RADHA’S RE-INCARNATION AS VASANTHA SAI
–Amazing Revelations from her interview with
Dr. S.P. Ruhela

Dr. Satya Pal Ruhela (born on 2nd February, 1935) is an internationally renowned sociologist. He is Professor of Education (Sociology) in the Institute of Advanced Studies in Education, Jamia Millia Islamia (Central University), New Delhi. He is an ardent Sai devotee. He has contributed several highly informative and interesting books on Sri Sathya Sai Baba, Spirituality, Sociology and Education. He is the Founder & Secretary of the “SAI DIVINE RESEARCH CENTRE”, Faridabad- 121003 (India).

He is a gentle, kind and loving Sai devotee. You speak to him about Sri Sathya Sai Saba, with whom he has been associated in one way or the other since 1973 ever since he met Him in New Delhi for the first time, he starts shedding tears of bliss. That is the sort of love he has towards Swami. His very latest book entitled “How to Receive Sri Sathya Sai Baba’s Grace” is an interesting book full of guidance and fathoming the depth of the Ocean of Swami’s Love.

He had interviewed one Vasanthamma of Vadakkampatti in Madurai District of Tamil Nadu (India), who, it is claimed, is re-incarnation of Radha of Lord Krishna’s time (according to Swami). Dr. Ruhela is a Sociologist and a logical person. Though he is an ardent devotee of Sri Sathya Sai Baba he just does not believe anything and everything that is said about Swami. He takes extensive trouble in investigating reported miracles and then only writes about them.

Loving Sai servant
V. Krishnan

These are exact reports of Dr. Ruhela in his own words

I first heard about Vasantha Sai (Mrs. M. Vasantha Manoharan) of Vadakkampatti village in Madurai District of Tamil Naadu state in April 1999 from Mr. C. Krishna Moorthy, Deputy Executive Engineer –Irrigation, Anantapur (Andhra Pradesh state ) an ardent devotee of Sri Sathya Sai Baba and also of Amma (Mother) Vasantha Sai, vide his letter dated 7th April 99. He sent me a copy of Amma Vasantha Sai’s Book “ Liberation! Here Itself! Right Now! ” (1997) and wrote to me about her as under:

“She is a devotee of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba for the past 35 years. Daily she worships Swami with great devotion. In her meditation Vasanthamma will talk to Swami daily. Swami had given her Divine Darshan. In her meditation Swami told her that she was “Radha” of Lord Krishna’s time.

“I went to Vadakkampatti two times and I talked to her about spirituality. On 26.11.98, I have collected some spiritual aspects (details) of Smt. Vasanthamma from a Naadi Grantha called “ Agasthya Maha Siva Naadi” in Astrological Centre in Anantapur (now shifted to Hubli). Similarly Venkataraman (K.S. Venkataraman of Madurai) also collected spiritual details of Vasanthamma from different Naadis in different places in Tamil Naadu. The details we collected exactly tallied with what Swami had said to her in meditations.”

He sent her details from the Naadis of Suka Muni and Agasthya Muni and the addresses of Amma Vasantha Sai and Mr. K.S. Venkataraman. I was very much interested to know more about her. I wrote to her and Mr. Venkataraman and they immediately provided me with a lot of information about her. I was eager to meet her. She too was very eager to meet me and invited me to come to her village. She informed me as under in her letter of 27th April, 1999.

“By the order of Bhagavan, I give 1/1000th of Prema Shaktito hundreds of people. That means by Japa Shakti. Now some of them are high in spiritual line.”

In her letter of 6th May, 1999, she informed me:

“…..I asked Swami about you during meditation. He told me that you are a part (amsa) incarnation of Tulsi Siddheswar (Tulsidas, who had composed Ramayana) that you are doing Gnyaandaan excellently.

“I am pleased to inform you that Swami has asked me to give you my Prema Shakti. Hence you are advised to visit my house on any day with your family members, friends and relatives or alone at your convenient time…. Please come here soon. Join us and share the bliss with us. I will give you my Prema Shakti ”

The details about her, sent by Mr. K.S. Venkataraman from Madurai and copies of her devotees’ letters to her also, sent by him on my request, further prompted me to meet her at the earliest and learn about her personally. However, due to pain in my wife’s legs, she could not withstand the ordeals of travel and hence could not go in bus up to her place. I had already planned my visit to Puttaparthi in June 1999 and so I informed her about it and mentioning to her that if she could meet us at Anantapur at the house of her devotee Mr.C. Krishna Moorthy, then it would be fine. She very kindly agreed to do so. She planned her tour to Poona, Shirdi, Mantralaya, Anantapur, Tirupati and we met at Anantapur on June 19 and 20, 1999. She had come with her husband Mr. Manoharan, her disciple Mr. K.S. Venkataraman and one Mr. Muthu Ramalingam, a family friend from Madurai.

On Sunday, the 20th June, 1999, we all met at C. Krishna Moorthy’s house and I had a long interview with her and her party, from 10 A.M. to 6 P.M.. I had already prepared a long formal interview schedule to know her reality and I interviewed her and her people with the help of my interview schedule. I also looked into various other materials which she and Mr. Vekataraman had brought with them, like personal diaries, photographs, devotees’ letters to her, her songs, etc. to satisfactorily verify her genuineness as a Sai devotee and as Radha’s re-incarnation. She possessed the original yellow cover notebooks containing Sri Agasthya Naadi and Suka Naadi readings given to her by the Naadi Readers, to prove her authenticity.

The interview with Sai Vasantha and her party on June 20, 1999 at Anantapur was tape-recorded by me. It is as under:

RUHELA :
Mrs. Vasantha, when were you born?

VASANTHA :
I was born on Sunday, the 23rd October, 1938 at Vadakkampatti village. It was Amavasya day.

RUHELA :
Did you ever get any personal, interview with Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba?

VASANTHA :
No.

RUHELA :
Why?

VASANTHA :

Swami told me in meditation: “You will not be given personal interview because you will not be able to bear the vibrations. I give you Paadanamaskaar or interview in meditation here (Vadakkampatti) itself. Why do you want a physical interview? People who come to Me will get vibrations according to their capacity; in your case, you do not have a lot of capacity, so if you have interview with Me, your body will not permit, just like a 40 watt bulb is unable to receive electricity of 10000 watts.” When I go to Puttaparthi, I do not get Swami’s interview. I get last row of the devotees; my eye-sight is not good, so I am able to see a very little glimpse of Swami.

Swami asked me in meditation:

“Why do you pray for My physical Darshan? Why do you want physical interview? We met here itself. There are a lot of rules and regulations in the physical interview. In subtle form I have taken you to Vaikuntha (Heaven), various planes, and other planets and places, but in the physical interview it is not possible.”

In Hislops’s book it is mentioned that Swami had told him that those who are deep inMadhura Bhava do not get Swami’s interview.

RUHELA :

You have Madhura Bhakti? How do you visualize Him - as your Divine Consort, Husband, Lover, you being Radha Incarnate.?

VASANTHA :

Once I asked Swami in meditation: “What Bhava should I follow?” Swami replied, “it is Rati-bhava. It is between two lovers.” I told Swami, “I am married. So I am not pure, How can I give pure love to you?”

Swami told me, “Radha was also married. It is not relationship with physical body, it is beyond that, Blood circulation in our body will be changed after every 12 years, as such you don’t possess the body that you had in your childhood. Physical love changes, but Divine Love remains same. Why do you weep.”

I told Him: “ I don’t know the reason for my weeping constantly.”

Swami told me :

“ If you don’t weep, if you don’t have yearning for Swami, you will lose your body. You are surviving in this body by weeping, yearning for Swami(Me). You have come (taken) birth) for Me and you are going to merge in Me. i.e., we two are just one – just as a coin has two sides. This body requires some attachments to live in this world. If you weep continuously, you will merge with Swami. But Swami wants you to do service to humanity. Therefore, you are retaining this physical body.

“There are two things – Paramathma (God) and Shrusti (World). Paramathma is our whole and sole. When Paramathma takes a sankalpa (determination), He divides Himself into two –Purush (God) and Prakriti (Nature). Myself is Purush, and you are the Prakriti”.

RUHELA :
What sort of ‘Madhura Bhava’ is there in your poems and songs? I have learnt from Mr. K.S. Venkataraman that you have composed over 1000 such songs in Tamil language, most of which have been published.

VASANTHA :
The feelings of separation (Viraha) from Swami is the main theme of my poems and songs. I want to merge with Swami. My poems contain the intense desire to join Him. In my poems, I ask peacock, moon, tree etc. to carry my message of agony to Swami.

RUHELA :

Do you have any memory of your previous birth as Radha, or that of any other previous birth.?

VASANTHA :

Swami told me in meditation that I was Radha in my previous birth. Swami took me to Gokul during my meditation. He showed me Yamuna river, Kalia ghat, forest, Krishna’s house at Nadgaon, the place where He was tied with a rope by His foster mother Yashoda, and the street leading to one particularf house. Swami told me that it was Radha’s house. I personally do not have memory of any of my earlier births.

RUHELA :

Can you describe Radha”s house that you saw in your meditation as such.?

VASANTHA :

It was a very small and simple house. It had 3-4 rooms, two short pillars outside; one portico (shade) was there outside. It was tile-roofed shade. I went inside all the rooms and I showed to Swami that I (as Radha in my previous birth during Krishna;s time) was standing near the windows trying to catch the sound of Krishna’s flute. I was standing in front of that door seeing the street whether Krishna was coming or not. I went to one room and told Swami that I was weeping for Krishna for hours together daily. There was one cot but I fell on the floor. I told swami, “ I was weeping for Krishna for hours together and had become unconscious.” That was my first experience of Gokul.

I was afraid to see this vision in my meditation. I came out of my puja room immediately. I was weeping remembering this vision. There was no one in my house at that time to console me. I had to bear this feeling myself. I saw this vision on 25th November, 1997 at 4 P.M. Later in meditation, Swami told me that Radha was married and she had no children.

RUHELA :

When did Radha and Krishna meet again after His leaving Gokul at the age of eleven?

VASANTHA :

I don’t know. I don’t know about my any other birth after Radha. In my meditation, Swami took me to Go-lok where all the Gopis and Gopas of Krishna’s time were residing. Swami identified each Gopi, mentioning her name to me. They were – Sugana, Pushpamala, Nandini etc. They inquired of me, “When are you coming here? We are` waiting for you. “ Swami told them “ We two will come after our mission on earth is over.” I asked Swami where is our Gokul at present. He said, “It is in Vrindavan.”

I asked Swami, “ If I go there with Ruhela, Ruhela can observe my feelings when I enter Vindavan myself. I will get the old memories revived.” Swami replied, “You should not go there. If you go there, you will die because your feelings will burst.”

RUHELA :

Did you have visions about Radha? Did you have any vision about any of your earlier births.?

VASANTHA :

Yes, too many visions. Swami used to take me in my meditation to many places – some times we two became Krishna and Radha. When Swami and I would go together, we would change into Krishna and Radha. One day Swami played on the flute and immediately I fell upon Him.

Another time I saw all sorts of creatures – birds, animals, peacocks etc. around swami and hear the sound of music of His flute.

In many visions, I saw that we used to dance together as Krishna and Radha. We used to sing together, play together. I would run into forest and Swami would go after me to catch me. I (as Radha) would hide behind the trees. Krishna tried to find the place where I had hidden myself.

I did not have any vision about Radha as such. At another time Swami took me to Gokul. He showed me the Yamuna river. He recalled old memory of Krishna and Radha. He (as Krishna) used to sit on that bent bench of the tree and used to play on His flute; and Gopis used to surround Him and dance. They had very good Prema Bhava We can not find such Prema Bhava at present.

Swami used to play the flute and fall upon my shoulder. He as Krishna was wearing numerous ornaments. He was very handsome. Radha too was very beautiful. She was also wearing a lot of ornaments. The Gopikas were also very beautiful.

Once one devotee Kodai came to see me (Vasantha) at my house and asked about Krishna, Gokul, Radha, Gopikas etc. He recently went to Vrindavan and found exactly the same details about Gokul and the ornaments on the statues of Krishna and Radha in the temples of Vrindavan, as I had described to him earlier. The dresses of Radha and Krishna were very beautiful. Krishna was of blue complexion, but Radha was of white complexion.

Swami told me once not to hear the music of flute as it would give me vibrations which my body would not be able to bear. I asked Swami to play the flute at least one time, but He refused, stating the above reason.

Following is the foreword for the book

“Sai sister Smt. Vasantha is inspired by Sri Sathya Sai Baba who is truly Sri Krishna. She is deeply devoted to Him and her tongue constantly utters the holy name of Sai Krishna.

Sai Krishna has been bestowing His grace and showing visions to sister Vasantha in her meditation for over three decades.

The divine book ‘ Liberation! Here Itself! Right Now!’ is the unique collection of her divine visions and experiences of Sai Krishna.

As we go through the book, we have the Darshan of Sri Saraswati Devi, the Deity of Knowledge and wisdom.

Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba blessed this book by autographing its manuscript, when He graciously visited my house at Madurai on 7th May 1997. This is more than enough proof for the authenticity of her divine visions and experiences.

Sister Smt. Vasantha has also written and released a book of poems ‘Sri Sai Gananjali’ which contains 1000 devotional poems in the same divine path.

I believe that this book of unique divine aroma eloquently shows the depth of the prema of our Lord Sai.

I pray that Smt. Vasantha may be blessed by our Lord to continue here divine work."

By
- P. S. A. Subramanian Chettiar
- President
- Sri Sathya Sai Padhuka Trust
- Madurai (Tamil Nadu)

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