| Venue | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 2 | Round 1 | Venue |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Angel's Sunnydale Mansion | (1)Liam/Angelus/Angel vs | (1)Angel vs | (3)Connor vs | (3)Connor Angel/Steven Franklin Thomas/The Destroyer vs | Sewers |
| (16)Olaf/Olaf The Troll | (14)Agent Forrest Gates | ||||
| (9)The Master vs | (8)Andrew | (6)Lilah | (11)Clem/Clement vs | ||
| (8)Andrew Wells/Tucker's brother | (6)Lilah Morgan | Cementary | (5)Drusilla vs | (5)Drusilla vs | (10)Harmony vs | (7)Warren Mears vs | Spike's Crypt |
| (12)The Beast | (10)Harmony Kendall | ||||
| (13)Mr. Trick vs | (4)Darla | (2)Spike | (15)Whistler vs | ||
| (4)Darla | (2)William the Bloody/Spike/Hostile 17/Randy Giles |
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Ya know, the late voters are the ones that I just can't get a handle on. This is the second recent contest that I can name that was neck and neck with ties and lead changes, only for the eventual winner to get most if not all of the late votes to pull away. Which is fine, but I just wish one of those late voters would leave some kind of comment. I guess I'm suspending my usual name calling post-game wrap-up to just say that Darla earns a Regional Semi-final matchup with Angel. And Drusilla goes off to wherever. I, myself, go where the comments are.
Grandmother is cross. Watched "Dear Boy" through "Redefinition" this weekend (soooooo much fun!), and I noticed an essential but rarely mentioned aspect of the Fanged Four dynamic: Drusilla irritated Darla no end. Dru was Angelus' pet project, and while Angelus just adored sexy, wacky Dru (in that sick, sick, SICK! way of his), I think Vision Girl Mark I sucked on Darla's last nerve. (No wonder she wanted Dru to make herself a playmate.) Darla would never stake Dru, because she respected Dru's "sight" and utter viciousness--and let's face it, sometimes it's just nice to have another girl around for company. (Shopping, anyone?) But if it came down to Darla vs. Dru for keeps (the catfight in Reunion doesn't count), I think Darla would win. Dru may be insane, but Darla is hardcore. - cjl
I went with Dru, as it is my policy to support the mentally disturbed. I say Dru makes illusions of all of Darla's incarnations and the real Darla snaps from the confusion. Then, she and Dru go off to fingerpaint kittens in blood and name stars. It's all very romantic if you think about it. - Apophis
I think Dru has this one, I don't care what the numbers say being killed so many times has got to take the edge off your game. Suicides are not generally renowned for their gritty determination will to win. To mix my metaphors a little ‘Cassie doesn’t have any bad dreams because she’s just a doll’. - Celebaelin
Yeah, Darla'd wipe the floor with Dru. Dru's the puppy they got to amuse Angelus, and Spike's the puppy they got to amuse Dru. (Angelus' attachment to Dru is vital to his self-image. He needs to have a victim to maintain feelings of power and control, over his relationships specifically and unlife in general.) - Arethusa
Dru is insane, which is why Darla is going to win. Darla can be single-minded, or easily distracted. Darla has years of experience over Drusilla, and she's just more devoted to all-out evil. She'll drop Drusilla in a non-existent heartbeat and enjoy every minute of it. - MaeveRigan
Tha Master's Favored One vs. The Demented Princess. "She's my grandmum! Slap!! She's my daughter! Slap!!" Sure Dru has the major advantage of being crazy and deranged but Darla's calculating ways are what will win the day. - deeva
Talk about a tough choice! I love them both so much! Why must we choose between our two ladies of the night? Double the vampires, double the fun! But since I love the Madame just a little bit more than Daddy's Little Girl, I had to vote for Darla, Mother of Connor. - Scroll
Some of the best scenes in AtS featured Darla as mother/mentor:
Darla and Drusilla
Darla and Angel(us)
Darla and Connor
Gotta vote for the mama of my favorite boys. But here's hoping we get a little more Drusilla this coming season! - Masq
I vote for the Trollop, cause I can't be the only one bringing the fun in.....;) - Rufus
Tall, dark and forehead has it all over the dungeon master. Angel piled up a nice amount of votes on his way to the Vampire Region Semi-Finals. Andrew doesn't have to sit around and wonder how he managed to survive this one. Nope, there are no "why me's" following proclamations of swimmers ear, here. Several of you had your own proclamations about this matchup, so onto the comments.
Dead Boy vs. Tucker's little brother. Andrew frets over what to do in this match up. He consults his Dungeon Master guide book and rolls the dice. Alas, there is nothing in it regarding what action to take against the original vampyre with a soul. After watching Andrew spaz out in his red cape, Angel broods and checks in with the soul a bit before going with Angelus' idea of smacking "magical-monkey-controlling-attacking-the-school-play" boy down. - deeva
Andrew? Versus Angel? Please! Andrew, bless his omnisexual little heart, goes into palpitations at the very sight of The Dark Avenger. Angel finds himself with a small, blond shadow . . . and we all know what small blondes do to him, don't we? Yep! Dark!Angel is on his way, and Andrew gets creamed, poor dear, and loves Angel all the more for it. In the end, Angel has a willing slave who's more than a little annoying. Therefore, he passes Andrew off on David Nabbit, who finds him simply adorkable, and everyone lives happily ever after. Er, that is to say, I'm voting for Angel. - HonorH
Even with my love of excessive violence against innocent and helpless creatures, I find this a little cruel. I mean, yeah, Angel's done some horrible things in the past, but man, forcing him into the same room with Andrew? That's messed up, dude. If Angel thought he'd been to hell before, just wait until Andrew, in full confused-sexual-identity crush mode, enters his fifth hour of revisionist-history Scooby adventures. I figure that Andrew finally crosses the line with his insistence that Timothy Dalton was the best Bond and Angel turns him into a red smear on the far wall. When the AI crew enter the room and ask what happened, Angel mumbles something about Angelus getting out but he's fine now honestly and gosh he feels guilty. Then they all go out for ice cream. - Apophis
Flushed with success after his defeat of The Master, Andrew's evil superbrain goes into overdrive and he immediately starts treating Angel as an intellectually sub-standard minion. He opens with some not so subtle forays into 'the deeper signicicants' of Angel's relationship with Spike during the 'Love Bites' Eurasian tour (1881-1903) and how the relationship progressed from contempt for the newcomer through infatuation tempered with jealousy until the moment that swung it entirely the other way when during the rebellion in his boxers Spike killed his first Vampire Slayer finally driving 'Angeles' over the edge into obsessive fiery passion. Angel meanwhile is standing motionless, looking more than a little pained. Andrew continues, recounting the rise of 'hotvamp the blonde' and contrasting it with the brooding ones' slide into impotent gutter trash. It is strange is it not, comments the supervillain, that your emergence from rat-cuisine and your path to increased self-content is so closely linked with encountering Spike again. All the more so because he was now the peroxide prince under a curse, the government had taken the initiative and grafted silicone onto him unfairly making him vulnerable to the Slayer while she hurt him time after time, night after night. And now here you are perched atop this ebony tower, still waiting for your prince to rescue you. Angel is beginning to froth at the mouth at this point, he clutches his head in his hands and mutters with more than an edge of desperation in his voice 'please make it stop'. Somewhat controversially it was at this point that I cast my vote for the noisome nerd, the king of kitsch, the champ of camp the one and only 'Androgenous'. The fact that shortly afterwards Angelus surfaced and gave Andrew flying lessons without the benefit of any kind of aerodynamically favourable device is hardly my fault, nor indeed anything I can do something about. - Celebaelin
But before Angel can administer some pain Andrew cries out that he's lactose intolerant and needs a timeout. Angel, cursing his whole "living as the world ought to be" speech agrees to take Andrew to the drugstore for some antacids. On the way they stop for curly fries. Back at the arena Angel is ready to start the fight but Andrew says that his tennis elbow is acting up. They head to the bathroom to look for tensor bandages and Angel somehow gets talked into helping Andrew style his hair in that "really cool way" that Angel wears it. Pretty soon Andrew is showing Angel around the chatty rooms, and is acting out the epic B/A opera that he's been working on. It's not bad and Andrew is very receptive to Angel's notes. By that time it's getting really late, and Angel decides it would be only fair to let the kid get a good night's rest before the inevitable smackdown. In the night Andrew stakes Angel in his sleep. - ponygirl
No matter how you set this match up, Angel flips Andrew like a terrapin and leaves him waving his hands and feet in the air, wondering what hit him. Andrew summons demons? Demons don't phase Angel either. Even reformed Andrew would be begging for a chance to be worked over by the renowned Angel OR Angelus. - MaeveRigan
While visiting LA with the Scoobies, Andrew and Angel get into a discussion about who's the best android ever, R2D2 or Data. Angel, who has a secret TNG habit (he empathises with Data's inability to 'get' people, though he was disappointed in Nemesis), finally becomes annoyed with Andrew's knee-jerk non-arguments and responds with one of his own: "R2D2's a squeaky trash-can!" Andrew goes into a beserker fury and launches himself at Angel, who handily smacks him down into a wee puddle of dork. Angel victorious. - Anneth
On The Meter of Both Combat and Characterization, Angel wins both fronts. I always WANTED to like Andrew, but always ended up feeling like his character was a self indulgent fan pandering device. The Dark Avenger, on the other hand, happens to be my fav and most interesting, IMHO, character on either show, so... - AngelVSAngelus
Andrew has a new role model. [Scene: Angel's penthouse suite in the Wolfram and Hart building. Angel and Andrew are sitting back in identical overstuffed chairs on either side of Angel's living room couch. They're dressed in identical dark grey slacks and black turtlenecks. Much contemplative silence.]
ANDREW: OK, how's that?
ANGEL: It's supposed to be brooding. You look like you're constipated.
ANDREW: Well--I don't like thinking about evil and stuff. It kind of upsets
my stomach.
ANGEL: Look, do you want to do this or not?
ANDREW: I wanna do this. I'm seeking redemption for my life as a criminal mastermind,
and I'm brooding because the weight of my sins tortures my soul.
ANGEL: Hate to break it to you, Andy--but I don't believe it. Not for a second.
ANDREW: Hey, that's not fair. Faith told me you were, like, Mr. Supportive Guy
when it came to people trying to not be evil anymore and learning to, you know,
come to terms with the past.
ANGEL: You talk about it like it's an [does air quotes] "attitude adjustment."
I'm not feeling the big time remorse here. ANDREW (quietly): What I did to Jonathan
was horrible.
ANGEL: Really? Why was it horrible?
ANDREW: B-because I killed him, a-and he was my friend, and he trusted me.
ANGEL: Huh. How did you feel when you killed him?
ANDREW: What do you mean?
ANGEL: I mean, "How did you feel when you killed him." Was it a "sad-but-necessary"
sort of thing?
ANDREW: Yeah, I-I guess you could call it that....
ANGEL: Good. It's good you felt remorse from the beginning. It's not like you
were some psychotic geek with delusions of grandeur who ran a blade through
his best friend so he can fulfill some moronic dream of ultimate power...
ANDREW: Hey...
ANGEL: And it's not like you got this almost orgasmic thrill of sticking the
shiv through his spleen so you and your boyfriend, Robopimp, could be 2-together,
4-ever...
ANDREW: Shut up.
ANGEL: And it's not like you had this incredible rush of adrenalin and your
mind was racing with how you were gonna teach everybody who was ever mean to
you that--
ANDREW: SHUT UP! [Andrew slumps back in his seat and broods. Angel leans over
in his seat and checks Andrew's form.)
ANGEL: There we go. That's quality brooding. - cjl
Angel crosses his arms and fixes Andrew with an icy
glare
Andrew: "Don't think you can scare me with your 'He-man' look"
Angel continues to stare, tapping his foot
Andrew: "Y-You don't frighten me, Cr-cr-creature of the night" (looking around
for the exits)
Angel continues to stare, letting out a low growl
Andrew: "I...I...I'm not afraid of you" (backing away) "I'm a..a.. evil villan"
(backing away some more)
Angel smiles slowly, nodding his head and raising his eyebrows
Andrew: "I...I...I'm gonna....arrgh"....thud (Andrew falls back over a chair,
smashing his head open on the stone floor)
Angel slowly shakes his head and goes back to sitting in his brooding chair - thinking 'There's always some Spike wannabe wanting to throw down, almost
makes me miss the real thing. game over :o) - yabyumpan
Blondie Bear spanks Harmony's hot little bottom as she was backing out of the tournament. With this win, Ass-Face wins a Sweet 16 matchup with Lilah. Harmony was doomed from her fist utterance in this one - "At last we meet, Spikey." It was all downhill for the brainless twit after that. Meanwhile, Captain Peroxide didn't even bother extinguishing his smoke as he treated Harmony with the same purpose as a mannequin. He skated by on his looks in this round, as I will skate by with the comments.
Well, lessee--
Spike: full, rich character
Harmony: fine comic relief
Spike: great one-liners
Harmony: great target for one-liners
Spike: former Big Bad
Harmony: constant vacuous tramp
Spike: would have killed Harmony in HLoD
Harmony: got Spike to do the Sexy Bed Crawl in HLoD
Spike: treated Harm like crap
Harmony: annoyed the crap out of me
Spike: went out a hero
Harmony: went out with most of the basketball team
Spike: hot without a shirt
Harmony: also hot, but being female, just doesn't excite me
Spike it is! - HonorH
What it comes down to, and I hope I won't offend anyone with this, is that Harmony's sense of style is superior to Spike's. After all, Spike's lousy taste in jewelry will prove to be the death of him. (By the way, if I haven't pimped "Her Platinum Baby" enough, let me give it one more try. It's the video that changed my entire perspective on the Buffyverse. But do note that the "Warning: Excessive Cuteness" is to be taken seriously.) - d'Herblay
Okay, this was hard. On the one hand, I have a strict policy of voting against Spike and defiling his memory. On the other hand, Spike could easily kill Harmony and, in fact, were it not for the Gem of Amarra, he already would have. So, I enacted my Tie-Breaker Contingency Question: Who has made more guest appearances on Boston Public? With a score of 1 to 0, Harmony wins by an unprecedanted landslide. Here's the breakdown of the match: By special decree of Junichiro Koizumi, Prime Minister of Japan (all these fights take place in Japan, right?), the fight will be a Japanese Exploding Ring King of the Death Match. Spike and Harmony enter the ring and, for 10 minutes, brutalize each other with barbed wire, broken glass, 2 x 4's, and thumbtacks. At the 10 minute bell, the C-4 charges around and under the ring detonate. Due to the vampiric vulnerability to fire, Spike is immediately incinerated. Harmony is also incinerated, but 6 seconds after Spike, making her the winner. - Apophis
You all know my feelings about this. I love both these crazy kids. Spike is the poster vamp for self-improvement, going for his soul when the safer and saner option would have been to chuck the chip and go back to a nice, normal life of wanton slaughter. Harm? Harm is my smooth little pack of mentholated smokes, tied with Xander for Best Slap Fighter in Sunnydale. JM for a whole season and Mercedes for at least 17 eps? Could a Spike/Harmony fan want anything more? Well, maybe for the two of them to avoid this battle-to-the-death thing. I'm sitting this one out, JBone. Let the chips fall where they may. - cjl
Don't let the joke vote win, kids. Just because Spike has done some infiltrating and swamping in late Season Seven's narrative vacuum and character non-journeys, doesn't mean that his offerings in Seasons 2-7 don't vastly swamp the amusement factor of Harmony. You might vote Harmony now, while pretending she's Angel, but you'll regret it in the morning. - TCH
Spike looks as if he's winning, then Harmony suddenly remembers something again "You made me dress up as the chick you really wanted!!!!!!!" She gets the Buffy-style fury burst and beats the arrogant prick to a pulp. - KdS
Being a gentleman at heart I would of course normally vote the vacuous tramp delightful fluff bundle to win, but I'm paralysed with not caring very much. Spike wins. - Celebaelin
I've grown rather fond of Harmony despite her lack of brains, character or morality, but Spike killed her easily once before, and he'd be able to finish her off with one hand tied behind his back. Or even both hands. - Arethusa
hmmm.... Who the hell am I kidding? I've always liked Spike. From his S2 sign mangling entry to his soul-fetchy-ness (well, not so much really.) to the curent pile of dust that he is now. Harmony is growing on me but the Super Peroxided One, as opposed to the not so Blonde One, has my vote. - deeva
The setting: Spike's crypt's W.C.
The characters: Spike and Harmony.
The prop: A bottle of Feria BlondeBlondeBlonde
The scene opens to find Harm cheerfully singing (la la la) to herself as she prepares to camoflauge her roots. Enter Spike. He wordlessly saunters over to Harm, grabs the bottle from her hands, and begins to apply the contents to his own locks, ignoring her entirely. Harmony looks up at him with huge, watery eyes and then rushes out, sobbing. Spike victorious. - Anneth
Joke vote? What joke vote? I really think that, empowered by whatever demony-woman-power-wisdom Harmony should have picked up in that source of all demony badness, Mexico and points south, Harmony has all that and a pack of stakes to dust soulboy Spike while he hesitates to consider whether or not he should apologize for treating her so badly before. Whoops-a-daisy! (did I really say that?) But don't worry--he'll be back. - MaeveRigan
I'll stop short of saying that Lilah played dirty in typical lawyer fashion, well, I just wanted to get that phrase in. Lilah is the first of the Vampire Region to advance to the round of 16. It was a hell of a contest, violence, sex, costumes, what more could you ask for? Someone to lose? That would be Connor. He gets smacked down by yet another one of his father's femme fatales. The poor, horny bastard just can't buy a break! Comments are free.
Excellent matchup, but it comes down to this, Who do I want to see reappear in ANGEL Season 5? Connor, with or without his pseudo-vampiric powers and full assortment of Oedipal issues, or Lilah's evil smirk and smoldering presence? I think we all know the answer to that one. (Sorry, kid.) - cjl
Tough matchup. Lilah's smart and vicious, yet couldn't tell who her real enemy was until it was too late. Connor's the tragic innocent who got screwed over so many ways that by the end, he couldn't even tell what way was up. In the end, Lilah got herself reanimated into eternal service to the Senior partners. Connor, OTOH, got what he'd wanted all along--a family and a life of his own. So I say Connor wins. - HonorH
Age and treachery, baby! I say Lilah wins for the simple reason that she'd cheat. The Senior Partners went to all the trouble of reanimating her decapitated corpse, so they obviously want her around for something. Ergo, they'd probably allow her to utilize W & H's resources to punk out some whiny little dhampir (since they never really got anywhere with him anyway). And let's be honest: Connor really wasn't THAT clever. Everyone and her mother was yanking him around by his shorthairs at every turn; he's like dog, so desperate for affection that he'll fetch for anyone with a stick. Even if the Senior Partners wouldn't let her drop a safe on him (probably the only way to kill the little bugger), all she'd have to do is smile at him and twirl her hair and he'd be convinced that they were soulmates and he should kill Angel for her (of course, Connor would've killed Angel in exchange for half-empty box of Cheerios, but still...). So, let's review: Connor = kind of slow, slave to the gaping emotional void in his little teenaged soul; Lilah = smart, resourceful, evil, nice shoes, access to nuclear weapons (W & H probably know people in the Russian mafia). Connor will be getting coffee for Ms. Morgan before the ten count. - Apophis
Never underestimate the power of an evil woman. Come on, guys, we know Connor's a sucker for powerful, evil women. He fell for Cordelia, he was thrilled by Faith, the dark Slayer, even though she was all rehabbed and fighting for the Right. Jasmine had him at "hello"--or maybe even before hello--my memory's a bit hazy, what with the mind-bending and all. Lilah won over Wesley, and she'd twist Connor 'round her pinky-finger in a trice...then break his heart, just like all the others. Poor baby. - MaeveRigan
I'm rooting for a tie. I know it's against the spirit of the contest, but I'm rooting for a tie. And I think it can be done. The contest is close enough now that it could end deadlocked. And as for this tiebreaker council? My guess is that if dub can forgive Lilah her nefarious tactics against the beloved Clem, she'll go for the wiseguy of wise women. Deeva, on the other hand, lives in the same city as Masq, so she'll vote for Connor if she knows what's good for her. Just as long as I can keep Rob distracted with bright, shiny objects (yeah, yeah, the best bright, shiny objects ever, yada yada), we should be able to pull out a tie, and the combination of Connor and Lilah will be able to dominate the rest of the tournament. - d'Herblay
Connor marches into Lilah's office, demanding to be told what she knows about his origins. With his hands at her throat and her back against the wall, Lilah deftly signals security. But when they arrive, grunge-wearing boy knocks them out with a gravity-defying one-two kick, then leaves her office to chase down a more challenging opponent. Lilah tags along in next Fall's pumps until she realizes he's not looking for the exit. Lilah returns to her desk to file her nails and her legal briefs, and write about her fashionista quotient in her Live Journal. She has wisely decided to stay out of any further competition. - Masq
Really tough matchup! I've thought long and hard about this fight, but I don't think that Lilah, with all her reanimated corpse/lawyer smugness and caginess and contacts could withstand a full-on Connor-assault. That boy is just too enraged and too powerful. Connor's quick and Connor's tortured, and I see Connor walking away. - Anneth
It's a draw. Lilah signed a contract with Wolfram and Hart... and as we know, you just can't break a contract with those guys. So even after Connor mops the floor with her, Wolfram and Hart will just put her back together and reanimate her... it'd just go on and on. And cause Connor's probably involved in some sort of prophesy that Wolfram and Hart has some sort of interest in (cause that's just what they do!), they won't let Lilah head over to the armory to fetch a granade launcher. I'm guessing Connor is feeling a bit jaded when it comes to women, so any sweet talking that Lilah will try just won't work. - Sheri
Much as I love Lilah, this time, she's gonna stay decapitated. Connor arranges for a change of venue and as ubuquitous as W&H are, they have no presence in Quor-toth... - Caira
Andrew closes out the first round in the Vampire Region with a closely contested and unfortunate victory over the original big bad. The Master impresses since he is one of a very few that loses a match, and takes the majority of comments. Not really close there. But Andrew moves onto his much anticipated matchup with Angel in round two. Hey, I'm not some storyteller, this is what you get from me. Here are some really good, mostly in the Master's favor, comments.
The Master underestimates the Geek. While the Master busies himself violating a few of the Evil Overlord Rules, Andrew, who has the list memorized, yanks out a flamethrower and sets him ablaze mid-pontification. Case closed. - HonorH
I've never understood why everyone was so down on the Master. Conversely, I've never understood why everyone was so up on Andrew. Yeah, he had a few funny lines, but all his screen time was at the expense of much more deserving characters; thanks to Captain Comic Relief, Dawn, Xander, Anya, and Giles took the pipe during their show's swan song (yes, I know it can't all be blamed on one fictional character, but I need a scapegoat and Andrew's right here). So the Master, frustrated from being only one rung above Adam on the Classic BtVS Villains list, uses Andrew as his scapegoat. First, he uses his mesmerism powers to make Andrew walk into a wall for an hour straight. Then, he methodically shatters the little geek's Star Trek collectibles right in front of him. Next, he breaks Andrew's legs and puts him 50 feet away from a Near Mint issue of Action Comics #1 (the Master's been around for a while; he collects things); just as Andrew crawls to the treasure, the Master pulls a string and drags it just out of reach. Finally, the aged vampire shreds Andrew to ribbons, puts what's left in a blender, and sits down to a nerd smoothie. - ApOpHiS
The Master underestimates the Geek, and turns away, deigning Andrew too scrawny to provide even a decent snack. Emboldened by his unexpected survival and possible triumph, Andrew delivers the evil overlord speech of his dreams, which includes side mentions of Warren, Lex Luthor, Magneto, and the Shadows from Babylon 5. Annoyed by the nerdish prattle, the Master doubles back and rips Andrew's throat out. - cjl
I like Andrew. Really I do. In doses of 60 seconds or less. Great idea, but the execution is just too excruciatingly bad/good. On the other hand, the Master has this wonderful habit of having his blood and drinking it too, playing both the big cheesy vampire villain ("Shake, earth, shake!") and then coming back down (up?) to earth ("Whaddaya think? 5.1?"). On that note, things initially proceed as HonorH proposed: Master pontificates, Andrew incinerates. But there's a notable lack of ashes. Andrew has just enough time to go "oh crap" before the Master comes up behind him, drains him dry, and thanks the illusionist hired for the occasion for his services. - Caira
I'm a sucker for the geek. For all the muscle & minions & master-y masterness the Master is, he's not Andrew. Andrew has the edge of knowing that at any moment his time's up and he's ok with that. Not happy about it but he's accepted it. That's something that the Master doesn't have. He's so sure of his success that he knows no other way. That's a big weak spot. - deeva
The taking of life is a serious matter and Andrew is going to be seriously dead with very little effort. Sometimes a little is enough of course. - Celebaelin
Andrew's big chance! Finally, Andrew achieves ultimate darkness! No more parading around in leather dusters and boots, masquerading as Spike. After The Master inducts him into the Order of Aurelius, Andrew knows what it is to be cool at last. Really cool, like--dead. Sometimes the memory of what it was like to be an aspiring member of Buffy's gang of good guy heroes gnaws at him, but he finds that biting a pretty victim helps--they're much easier to get, now that he's really evil and has real superpowers. Sad. - MaeveRigan
This is a tough one. We have the original big bad v the guy that we really didn't want to like at all that continually grew on us. Andrew, Master of the Pan Flute v The Actual Master. If it was just on BtVS, I would go with Andrew, but when I add in his interaction with Angelus I have to give it to The Master. Sorry Andrew. I loved you dearly, but anyone that can smack Angelus like that and has the self-confidence to let his favorite minion go knowing she'll come back has to get my vote. - Diana
Andrew. Like Scherezhade, Andrew spins his tales of Jedi Masters and winsome young princesses, until the Master is hypnotized. Andrew than turns him into a pig and takes out his butcher's knife. "That'll do, Pig!!!" - Arethusa
Post Game: Uh, Dru kicks the snot out of Lava Boy. And she earns a matchup with her Granmummy in the second round. The Beast didn't get a lot of support, but his opening scenes were incredible. It's like Dru knew this was going to happen. She's on fire! Check out the good comments.
I know I was rather vocal in my admiration of the Beast, but Dru is my Dark Goddess; I can't stand against her. So here's how it breaks down: A week before she ever meets her opponent, a vision informs her of the Beast's weakness. Some helpful hallucinations lead her to the Beast's boneknife, which she pockets and forgets about until she runs into a giant demon made of volcanic rock. She takes a beating like the rest, but, as history has shown us time and time again, crazy beats powerful every time. Dru's deranged ramblings confuse the simple-minded Beast long enough for her to remember the trinket stashed in her dress and put it to use. Dru's survived battles with Angel and co. for 5 years; the Beast couldn't last one. Ergo, Dru wins and has a neat story to tell her dolls. - ApOpHiS
I agree! The Beast was a mere minion. Dru was the one who housebroke Spike all those years ago. She wins exactly the way Pops says. - HonorH
I agree too, although I think she hypnotized him and had him do the Hokey-Pokey just for fun first. - Arethusa
Drusilla all the way! Dru'd crush that mangy beast, and his little dog, too. She's no fool for love, and wouldn't be caught alive snogging with Evil Cordy, much less working for her. The Beast may think he's all special and powerful, what with the sun-swallowing, but really, he just ate a marble. Dru bagged a slayer, and a pretty effective slayer, at that. Plus, Dru's got that vision thing. She'd dream about Rocky's knife beforehand and finish him off in 34 seconds flat. Drusilla victorious! - Anneth
I'm sorry, but-- Drusilla's a sweetheart in her insanely psychic way, but the only outcome I see in this outcome is the Lava-Beast of apocalypse nowish stomping away from the Pile-of-Ashes-Formerly-Known-as-Dru. I realize I'm completely outnumbered, but that's my vision and I'm sticking with it. - MaeveRigan
Well, I voted for the Beast in my continuing, if pointless, effort to support the minor AtS characters against the heavy-weights in these sometimes way off-kilter match-ups. But if you ask me which one I'd rather see back on AtS next season, it'd be Dru! Dru! Dru! - Masq
Dru would beat the Beast anyway. Rocky may be powerful, but let's face it, he ain't too bright. (Getting stabbed by your own sacrificial knife? That's got to be an all-time low in demonic stupidity.) If the guys in A.I. didn't overdose on testosterone and go all John Woo on us in Apocalypse Now-ish, they might have figured out a way to puncture his hide without wasting all that ammo. Dru, blessed (cursed?) with second sight, steals the boneknife from Daddy's weapons cabinet, and dispatches Lava Boy with all due speed--and much taunting about his thing for Cordy: "Ooh," she coos, "poor, sweet Beastie dies from Mummy's love." - cjl
Wow. Where I come from, we call this an old fashioned ass kicking. Darla demonstrates that she is a player to be reckoned with in the Vamp Regional. And Trick? I'm embarrassed for him. The innovator of Slayerfest ‘98 bites it big time in the Apocalypse. There's not a lot of comments after this yawner, but still some goodies.
Darla! Darla, Darla, Darla! Trick was a poseur. Darla had more style in her little finger than he had in his entire wardrobe. (We'll just forget about her perverse little Catholic schoolgirl outfits first season--I think the Master liked them.) She lasted 400 years, some of which were spent playing Mama to the Fangsome Foursome. And she went out in the most heartbreaking way imaginable (before her mate went and screwed things up, but that wasn't her fault). Darla all the way! - HonorH
I can't vote for Mr. Trick. I dreamt he was chasing me around a spaceship. I was a little goldfish, and the constant "I'm gonna eat you little fishy!" drove me to distrac... what's that you say? Trick is _NOT_ the Cat? My vote still goes for Darla. - pr10n
Talk about a landslide... It's 16-0 to Darla- a good sign that people are watching Angel, when she really budded. - Tchaikovsky
Darla, she of the myriad faces and impressive cleavage. Becoming, Part I. (Yes, I know the outfit gave Julie Benz a little "help," but it was still impressive.) Strange--I was never impressed with Darla while she was on BtVS. I thought Julie Benz' range was limited, and while I acknowledged her importance to Angel's backstory, I was never particularly eager to see Darla pop up in flashbacks. I think the Fool for Love/Darla crossover finally tipped the scales, and I was happy as a clam to see the whole pregnancy plotline take flight in Angel Season 3. I'd say I was sad to see her go, but I get the feeling she'll be back as long as Julie is willing to make room in her schedule. Darla is eternal. - cjl
Darla was a powerful, charismatic leader who beat death twice, while Mr. Trick was a follower; he took his wages and is dead (yes, it's Name That Poem!). Trick's mercenary nature, while lucrative and relatively safe (things look bad, leave), meant he was unfocused and weak willed. Darla was nothing if not strong willed; she disobeyed the Master, after all, something most vampires didn't survive. So, in summary, let us look back to my ruling on Giles vs. Gavin: Darla is a pimp, while Trick is a ho (fun with irony). - ApOpHiS
Angel won a well fought match with the fun loving Olaf. Angel seems like he wins by as much as he wants to, but is there a kink in his armor? Can he make it to the regional finals? Despite being hit by fruits and various meats, Olaf seemed to have drunk almost all the mead in the Apocalypse. Good thing I had three days to get a new supply. So enjoy one, while you enjoy these comments.
Tougher than it looks (well, for me, anyway). Olaf was a lot of fun. Abraham Benrubi played him with such a sense of joie de vivre, of bonhomie, and...a lot of other French words...that you could almost overlook the whole 'eating babies' part. Now that's acting. On the other hand, if I didn't vote for Angel, he'd probably brood about it until the S5 premiere. And nobody wants that. - cjl
This is the unfairest matchup ever! I love Olaf, but Angel would so beat him senseless. Olaf comes in hammer a-swingin' but Angel casually sidesteps him and brings his hand down on the back of Olaf's neck in a judo-chop reminiscent of Austin Powers. Olaf goes down, and goes down hard. Angel victorious. - Anneth
Angel. Sure, Olaf was fun, but he was only beating Buffy as long as she was in a post-breakup funk. Angel coulda taken him, and Angelus *really* coulda taken him. - HonorH
I don't care if he was retconned into a god, no troll can take the King of Pain. Olaf is basically a big, angry monster; Angel wastes a big, angry monster every other episode, often before the beginning credits. Olaf will go the way of Drew Barrymore in Scream and Angel will go back to doing what he does best: hating himself. - ApOpHiS
That's Billowy Coat King of Pain, to you Mister. - Diana
Two words- enchanted hammer. That thing helped bring Glory down. Angel wouldn't stand a chance! - btvsk8
Assuming Olaf can keep a grip on the handle this time -- last time around Buffy just slapped it right out of his hand. I imagine Angel will be able to do the same -- and we've seen how "handy" Angel can be when wielding a hammer (right, Lindsey?) No, poor Olaf is going to end up as fish bait, and the next time the Broody One heads off for one of his retreats... well, there's a trolling joke in there somewhere but I can't quite get to it. - Malandanza
This one will be a real bruiser of a fight, far closer that the rankings imply. Both combatants can really soak up the damage and whilst Olaf may have the advantage in what he's handing out Angel has a knack of not being where you thought he was when you started to make your strike - dodgy geezer. Angel will have to use cuning to work Olaf into a position where he can hit him with something really big, maybe a garbage truck or perhaps an armoured peronnel carrier. But that's not impossible right? Insane troll logic bites the dust, Angel edges this one at the close (possibly with some help from the National Guard). - Celebaelin
Is anyone betting on Olaf? Because he obviously hasn't got a chance. While he's laughing at Angel for being a "tiny man," Angel puts on his game-face, takes away the big hammer, and tosses Olaf-glad-and-big in a dumpster. Sometimes vengeance never ends--Anyanka gets extra credit for her career-launching transmogrification. - MaeveRigan
I wonder if Lilah's been keeping tabs on Connor, because that's who she's gonna meet in the second round after her dispatching of Clem in the re-vote. Clem is not one to hold grudges, so his floppy loving fans can continue to participate in the Apocalypse. Or is he? By the way, Lilah also won the original "vote", 360-223. I'm including most of the comments from the original "vote", but it looks like some were stuffing the comment box also. Nevertheless, a great many, great comments...
I dreamt of Clem in a slit skirt. Sure he could still kick pretty high, but ew. So, Lilah. - pr10n
Of course Lilah will kick Kittymunchin Clem's butt! No doubt about it, Lilah is a feline in human garb. A real predator. - jane
She has class, she has style, she has a killer PDA. She struggled to break through the glass-ceiling in a cut-throat (literally), male-dominated workplace. She tackled her roles of Evil Lawyer and Vicious Bitch with passion and professionalism. She alone had the balls to handle a suicidal, slightly mentally unstable rogue demon hunter. And she never, ever apologises for being happily evil. Nothing stops Lilah from getting what she wants. Hey, one day of being back from the dead, and she's already got blackmail material on her new "boss" Angel. - Scroll
Clem's a sweetie but that whole kitten-eating thing, um, well, at least Lilah picks on things her own size (or larger). And she has better fashion sense. - rowena
Clem can scare slayer-bees, but Lilah's made of sterner stuff. This is a woman who signed an eternal contract with the powers-that-be-below, the woman who may have fallen for Wesley in spite of herself, but who nevertheless went over Linwood's (rolling) head to rise to the top of Wolfram and Hart. It would take a power much more nefarious than the pleasant Clem--say, evil!Cordy?--to overcome Ms. Lilah Morgan. - MaeveRigan
467 votes? 467?! Is Lilah engaging in a bit of ballot box stuffing here? Wouldn't be surprised. She'd do anything, do anyBODY to achieve her objectives, and not even losing her head is going to stop her. Agree with d'H here--the best femme fatale since Bacall; if she didn't exist, shadowkat would have had to create her.... - cjl
Sorry, but once you've been to Hell, weird face tentacles are so not going to intimidate you. - KdS
Call me shallow but Lilah has better skin. - sdev
Poor, poor Clem. Nice demons really do finish last. But not even the nicest demon can defeat the evilest human. With all the resources at Wolfram and Hart at her disposal (and that nifty perpetuity clause), she'll walk out of the ring in a brand-new Clemskin coat. - Valheru
Personally, I don't get what everyone seems to see in Clem? So he's a nice-guy demon; so what? So am I and nobody makes a big deal about it. Anyway, Lilah wins simply by proving that decapitated chicks can be hot, though her victory would be delayed by Clem's kitten breath. - Apophis
Sorry, Clem fans. I love him, and he's a sweetie, but he just doesn't stand a chance against the Queen Bitch of L.A. Go, Lilah! - HonorH
Eating kittens is just plain... plain wrong! And no one should do it, ever! - The Tick
His supporters will try to whitewash it or pretend it's not there, but the fact remains that Clem EATS the KITTENS. - Public
I prefer Lilah's jiggle to Clem's. - A.J. Ayer
Clem is a piece of floppy soppy comic relief: he enlivened many an otherwise dull season 6 episode, for which we must thank him. I was disappointed that he never had that date with Buffy. Lilah, however, is pure amphetamine: a jaguar on two legs (and what legs); the chewy amoral center of the Angelverse; the best femme fatale since Lauren Bacall took up shilling coffee. "One day if I pray hard enough and eat all my vegetables, I just might have hips"! - d'Herblay
Clem, Clem! I cast my...uh-oh, I've already vo...umm, later guys. - Random
Clem has to win so I can beat the crap out of him and take andrew away - Giles6688
The evil bitchmistress is a tough one to beat. But Clem is a survivor. And Lilah has already proven that she's, well, not. She'll bring all the powers of W & H to bear...only to discover that Wes has screwed up the Library, Fred has invented a new flavor of ice cream (think "herbal") in the labs and now the enire firm is in the throes of blissful, if painful, ice-cream headaches, and Angel is brooding the corporation right into the ground. Clem has depths we haven't seen yet -- his Beetlejuice ripoff was only the start of those still waters. And, to be honest, I am an avid Clemdrew shipper, so I'm biased. So Lilah tries to knife Clem in the back, only to discover that folds of skin are better than layers of tweed. Clem just smiles, gives Lilah a hug, and subjects her to a taste-testing of over 100 different varieties of chips. Lilah screams and races back to whatever Hell will take her, collapsing in utter relief amongst the tormenting demons and brimstone that bring only physical agony, not psychological ones. - Random
Sorry Clem, but Lilah could take you without even smudging her lipliner. - LadyStarlight
Clem never made it to the battle. On the way there, he was surrounded and pounced on by KUTSKE (Kittens United to Stop Kitten Eating) and slashed to smithereens by thousands of verrrrrrrrrrrry tiny oh so cute little claws. Then they piddled on him. mew. - Rochefort
Oh god- I *CAN'T* do this! ....I'm so sorry my sweet, bugle-eating Clem, but my alliance is with true evil, and kitten eating just doesn't cut it. I love Lilah too much to let her be brought low enough to be defeated by someone who can't even cheat at kitten poker...so its hard Clem, but its gotta be this way. - Alison
On the one hand we have the most evil of evil lawyers. On the other hand... someone who eats cats. Which, where I live, would probably not be considered a crime provided it wasn't someone's pet Siamese, and in any case can't possibly be any worse than English cooking. In short, it's pest versus pest control. I feel honour-bound to vote for the latter; but then again, Lilah does have great taste in furniture... - Caira
Lilah is certainly feisty, but when it comes to a round of old fashioned fistycuffs she folds like a baby. Clem would tear her to shreds with those weird snake things concealed beneath his excess skin. - btvsk8
What, again? Oh, all right. Blah blah blah shining light of Buffy S6 blah blah blah kittens blah blah blah smoking hot blah blah blah archetypal femme fatale blah blah blah blah BLAH blah blah. Lilah. - cjl
Spike's probable march to the Regional finals begins with a solid, but expected win in a contest that was closer than I expected. I keep underestimating Whistler in these things. Spike moves on to meet Harmony in Round 2 (sweet) while Whistler's hat ends up next to Vi's. What is it with hats? This matchup brought out the most fashionable people, who brought with them... You guessed it - Comments!
Okay, and the contest is . . ? Whistler and his sorry fashion sense would be mulch in two seconds. End of story. - HonorH
Even "Drunk Spike" would beat Whistler: "pffff yeaaaahhhyouu. You think I'mm scarredaaa youuuuuu. I'll show you who's a tough guyy..." I want to add to my comment that after Spike kicks the butt of the guy who TAUGHT Angel everything he knows, he's gonna kick Angel's butt, win this contest, and then TAKE ... OVER... ANGEL'S... SHOW. - Rochefort
I know I'm backing a loser, but I don't care. Until the day I die, I will maintain that Whistler is, in reality, a Lovecraftian horror underneath his pedestrian exterior. As the fight begins, Whistler assumes his true form as an 8 story tall Chthulu-esque abomination and sends Captain Peroxide spiraling into a galaxy composed of pure madness. Like the song says, you shouldn't go pickin' fights with people strange to ya. - ApOpHiS
Whistler, his pivotal role in the history of the Buffyverse and penchant for the cryptic notwithstanding, never got enough screen time to avoid one-dimensionality. Spike, on the other hand, has developed so many dimensions over his 4.5 years on the series that he's practically a walking tesseract. Spike, with his shiny new soul, won't really want to hurt Whistler, but then Whistler will roll off a ten-minute lecture about Spike and his Destiny, and Blondie Boy, with places to go and people to see, will swat him into next week. Spike all the way. - cjl
Let's really think about this. What do we really know about Whistler? Sure, he seemed to be all non-violent, but remember Buffy in the underworld of the "dark, satanic mills"? "Want to see my impression of Gandhi? [WHAM!WHAM!WHAM!] ...if he was really pissed off." We know Whistler's a demon. We don't know what powers he has. I'll back him against Spike any day. Sorry. - MaeveRigan
What is Whistler anyway? Never did find that out. Being the Spike hater that I am, lets see how I can justify this :-) (hey give me a label and to paraphrase Liam, a more dutiful poster you couldn't have asked for. I've lived down to your every expection, now haven't I?) (now for the humor impaired, that is called a joke) Two ways this can go. It was Whistler that made it so Angel can go more than three rounds with a fruit fly, so he has to have some moves. I'll take whomever taught Angel how to fight over Spike's street brawling any day. Whistler being a demon could be vastly superior to Spike physically. - Diana
That was boring. Let's see if we can spice it up a bit. The Powers that Be have decided that Jasmine wasn't completely right, but that they should at least care for the demons/people that devote their lives to the cause. They have disregarded the welfare of their Messengers for too long. To make up for abandoning Cordy, they decide to intervene with Whistler. Whistler has been a loyal servant and they aren't going to let him just roll over to Spike. Instead they send him a vision that includes everything underhanded Spike is going to do, plus tons of baggage to bring up to psych Spike out with. Angel also comes along for the fight and isn't about to see his friend (they did spend quite some time together) lose to Captain Peroxide. Of course Angel is torn. He wants to take Spike out himself, but figures that losing to Whistler will be more embarassing. Besides, Buffy isn't a trophy and this has nothing (or at least very little) to do with her. Angel calls Xander to have him keep Buffy away from the fight. Then he calls Dru and asks her if she wants to play. Dru being Dru is completely on board. Then the two of them sit ringside and make-out. Even though Spike is so over Dru, the sight of this is a bit of a surprise and distracts him. Whistler gets him pinned when in walks Buffy. Seems she figured that Xander was trying to keep her away. She sees Angel and Dru and goes ballistic. Spike manages to get free and goes over to enjoy watching Buffy yell at Angel and adds a few insults of his own to the mix. That is when Whistler comes behind Spike. Buffy turns around just in time to see Spike turn into the pile of ashes that he should have been seasons ago. Angel starts to laugh. Then he tells Buffy "I knew you wouldn't stay away" and continues to laugh some more. - Diana
After several minutes trading barbs, Spike and Whistler take the fight to a local bar and have a drinking contest, a la That Scene in Raiders of the Lost Arc. Whistler crashes ass-over-teakettle while lifting his 23rd shotglass to his lips, leaving Spike to ferret away the winnings and totter blearily out into the night. Spike victorious, without showing so much as a fang. - Anneth
You gotta come prepared and clearly Whistler is not prepared for this matchup. No one knows exactly what happened to Whistler on the way to this showdown, only that when he arrived he was wearing his rib cage for a hat. That left him easy prey to the very territorial Spike, who immediately recognized Whistler's scent and knew that this was the other guy who had been pilfering from Giles's kitchen. You don't wanna get between Spike and his Wheat-a-bits. Whistler talks a good game, but he doesn't really do anything when push comes to shove. Spike's gonna put him down and get himself a new hat to go with his jacket. - manwitch
Spike (much as I love the character) would never, ever be able to pull off wearing a hat the way Whistler does. Raw courage and pure fashion genuis. A certain sense of jauntyness.The guy everybody knows and who seems to know everybody. Spike is strong and brave and passionate. But Whistlers got pluck - he's a freethinker. And you can't win those things in any demon caves. it has to be natural. The French have a word for it - and I have no idea what it is. But next to that word in a French dictionary is Whistler's grinning face. - WickedBuffy
Whether or not Whistler wins this contest, he would win in real life. He would never let himself be blindsided by the unexpected as Spike has repeatedly done. And, he'd call in the teleologically ineffible to help him out. Result? Whistler by a landslide. QED The hard call would be Whistler against the Cheese Guy. - Cleanthes
Zen of Whistling. This the guy who knew how to get beyond vamping. We haven't even heard his backstory--but he came out way ahead of Angel and Spike. I'm a Spike lover from away back, but Whistler starts from where Angel and Spike haven't even thought about going. - mamcu
Connor opens up a portal to the dimension Kickass on the opiniated Forrest. Unfortunately, I can't tell you who Connor will face in the second round until after the Lilah-Clem revote. But poor, poor Forrest. It seems like someone is always handing him leaky explosive containers right before they run away. Connor is a tough one for me to gauge, but he has a solid first round win in his arsenal now. In my arsenal? Comments, baby. Beaucoups de comments.
Battle of the Whiny Losers! Now, on a purely physical level, Connor easily takes Forest. That's boring, however. Ergo, this contest will be decided by who can out whine whom. Forest starts strong with a lengthy diatribe about how his best friend used to follow orders until he discovered girls. However, Connor's X-Treme father issues and Oedipal angst, combined with his "stranger in a strange land" frustration, quickly overpowers the zombie commando. Forest gets a few "repressed homosexuality for Riley" jabs in, but by this point, it's merely accademic. Connor leaves a beaten and weeping Forest to go and brood on a rooftop. - ApOpHiS
So Connor it's not even funny. Forrest was fairly cool, yes, but up against the man-boy, bad-hair-day, chronically-pissed son of Angel? Mulch. 'Sides, Connor's prettier. - HonorH
Much as i hate to disagree... Normally Honor H. is my guiding light, but this time? No, I must disagree. Forrest kicked rear! He got more fun as he got nastier. He ended up as a cool cyber demonoid (I loved his wagging finger). Conner started cool, with his great Matrix entry. But he got less fun as he got whinier. I may not win, but I believe in the rightness of my ideals. - Just George
Gah! Connor really needs a good spanking to make him sit up and pay attention, but sadly, Forrest is not the man to give it to him. Wait, could it be Connor vs. Demon-Cyborg-Forrest? That contest might last a little longer, but Connor would still come out on top. Sorry. Next round, please. - MaeveRigan
As we started S4, I liked Forrest a lot. He was a serious student, but he hung out with his buds, reeled off a number of laugh-out-loud lines about the Buffster, and seemed to have a healthy attitude about school, friends, love, demon killing--you know, real life in general. Then, Riley and Buffy Got Involved, and as the season wore on, Forrest sounded more and more like Riley's pissy ex-girlfriend. Like Harmony and vampirism, Forrest's demonization was an improvement. Connor, on the other hand, was a one-man Angst Machine (with Angel and Darla as parents, how could he be anything else?), and as Tim Minear so painfully drove "Home," he was probably doomed from birth. It's a tribute to Vincent Kartheiser's acting (and Boreanaz' paternal instincts) that Angel fans are almost willing to overlook our hero betraying every last one of his principles if it means Connor will be happy. My vote goes to Connor. The kid deserves every break he can get. - cjl
Voting for Connor. I know some people hate him with a passion, but Connor's arc was for me one of the most moving of any ME character. By contrast, all Forrest had going for him was a silly name and a deep confusion about his sexual orientation. - KdS
I don't know if I would go as far to call this even a "minor" upset. But what surprised the hell out of me was the landslide vote. Warren got buried underneath a Harmony avalanche. Lucky bastard. Warren is out. Harmony moves on. Comments, here we come!
Warren trys to hit on Harmony, Harmony makes Warren into a quick snack. Winner: Harmony - Wolfhowl3
Warren was an intriguing sociological experiment for the ME staff, as we witnessed his slow, painful devolution from socially inept brainiac to full-fledged sociopath. Human or vampire, Harmony has always been Harmony: bubblebrained, vain, inept--and smoking hot in lingerie. Of course I voted for Harmony. (Was there even a question?) Sigh. I am a shallow, shallow man....... - cjl
'Cmon Harmony- bitch slap that stupid geek until he cowers in awe at your fighting skills and stunning wardrobe! - Alison
Harmony is s-o-o-o gonna bite Warren. She may be ditzy, but she can bitchslap with the best of them. Plus she does a cool Buffy role-play. Warren's psychotic misogyny will run smackdab against Harmony's invincible wall of ignorance about what the word "misogyny" means. And you know she won't look it up in a dictionary. So my votes on Harmony as Warren desperately wishes Buffy hadn't smashed his balls...umm, I mean, orbs. - Random
Nobody has voted for Warren yet. That makes Harmony our little collective mentholated pack of smokes. And Warren our collective... jerk tied to a tree with his skin torn off. - Rochefort
Judging from Harmony's relationship with Spike, I'd say she likes a little abuse from her man. Hence, when faced with Warren, she falls head over heels in love and they become a couple. Eventually, Warren realizes his mistake (like Spike did) and tries to kill Harmony (like Spike did). Due to his ineptitude, he fails miserably and Harmony keeps on talking. One day, it just becomes too much and Warren takes his own life. It takes Harmony a week to figure out that she's been talking about unicorns and France to a corpse. - Apophis
Sorry, gotta go with Warren. Brains over brawn any day, and Warren beats Harmony in that he actually *has* one. - HonorH
I wanted to vote for Warren. I really did. As much as I disliked ME's orgy of Trio love in S6, I really liked the individual stories of Jonathan, Andrew, and Warren. But...it's Harmony, y'know? Hated as a human. Adored as a vampire. This vote's for you, Harm (you're right, Willow, it IS like a sickness!) - Valheru
Harmony comes unarmed to a battle of wits. Fortunately, Warren's maturity matches her own, and it quickly degenerates into a name calling contest. With all her years of mortal experience picking on nerds, Harmony quickly rips Warren to shreds. - Rook
It boils down to this, IMAO: Anyone but Warren. Anyone. Harmony takes him somewhere he can't work his geekery and rips his throat out when he falls asleep when she's talking or something. - Caira
As with Apophis, I'd be worried that Harmony would be so pathetic as to end up in a relationship with Warren. However, much as I enjoyed Warren, I want Harmony to get into the next round because I'm so juiced about Harmony vs. Spike. She can start with the nerd, and work up. - KdS
As soon as Harmony figures out that Warren's eyes never rise higher than the level of her cleavage, he's done, as in stick a fork in him. Harmony may not be the brightest bulb on the tree, but she survived a long time in Sunnydale, before and after her death. Take it and run. - Earl Allison