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Update News: March 7th, 2004 Not so much an update as a recovery process. You see, in Yahoo! GeoCities infinate wisdom, they deleted my page and all of my files. YAY FOR MORONS! Between Google's caching feature and some old copies I had I was able to restore most of my page, but I am not sure what updates I had lost. The Final Fantasy VII page I don't think I'll be able to recover since Google does not have a cache of that - too bad, had some decent tips on it. Sure glad I'm not paying for this lousy service. Moral of the Story: GOOGLE > yahoo Update News: April 24th, 2001 Well, it has been a full 4 months since I updated this last, and quite frankly it should not have taken that long since I had stuff I wanted to add/change to this site. Including correcting the information about the Southern Cross armor in the Special Items section. Tiamats and Wyverns were added to the Neutral Character section. I added additional locations to the following: Sphinxes, Gorgons, and Goblins. Updated some info, mostly in the Chaos Frame section.
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Why Ogre Battle FAQ? This is as much for myself as anyone else. I am obtaining a lot of information from http://ogrebattle64.8k.com's bulletin board which I would like in one place so it easy to find. Also, I am tired of answering the same questions there over and over, hence the Ogre Battle Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page. This FAQ is going take the position that the reader has at least read the manual and/or at least knows how to do basic navigating in the game. Hugo's Report is also a good source of information, as is the game Tutorial. This page is no way intended to steal visitors from other sites, just to provide answers to FAQ. If you own a website on Ogre Battle, feel free to email me your URL for a link addition. |
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Good Path |
Middle Path |
Evil Path |
Chapter 1 ===> 2 Way Path Chapter 2 ===> 3 Way Path ===> 2 Way Path Chapter 3 ===> 3 Way Path Chapter 4 ===> 2 Way Path ===> 2 Way Path |
Chapter 1 ===> 2 Way Path Chapter 2 ===> 3 Way Path ===> 2 Way Path Chapter 3 ===> 3 Way Path Chapter 4 ===> 2 Way Path ===> 2 Way Path |
Chapter 1 ===> 2 Way Path Chapter 2 ===> 3 Way Path ===> 2 Way Path Chapter 3 ===> 3 Way Path Chapter 4 ===> 2 Way Path ===> 2 Way Path |
NOTES: Following the paths I have listed here will ***NOT*** guarantee the desired ending! Many things affect what game ending will be. Read my Chaos Frame section for IDEAS on how to obtain the desired ending. Taking certain paths over others is considered a decision point and does affect your ending. This is why I have 3 sections up, 1 for best/good ending, 1 for the middle of the road ending, and 1 for bad/evil ending. For the Good Path I chose Vert Plateau simply because I believe that getting Europea looks better than getting Paul, but let me say something real quick ...you CAN receive a CF of 100 and have Paul. Remember this is ONLY my *recommendations* and should NOT be taken as gospel. I am basing this off of my experience and the many others who have told me what they did. For the good ending, Liberate as many towns as you can during the mission! Get as many items as you can and get all the special characters you can. Make peace with your father, recruit him. Justice is a virtue and live by that motto, think White Knight! For the Middle Path I said you can choose Capitrium or Tremos Mts.#1 simply b/c I don't think it matters. The only thing that matters really is which character you want. Read my Special Characters section for the details of Paul and Biske. Choose which ever path makes you happy. This path will probably be hardest. I guess all I can say is, just be mediocre in everything you do. Liberate half the towns, make some good decisions and some bad decisions. Let it even out. Yin Yang is the key philosophy for this one. For the Evil Path I say again it is your decision on Capitrium or Tremos Mts.#1. Mostly depends on which characters you like the best. This path has the least amount of stages. I did leave Sable Lowlands up there so you can get the Black Knight class. Tis the only stage where you get the equipment for this class. The "Bonus Stage" is where you are completely evil and you have to fight the Zenobians (Destin, Gilbert, Saradin, Aisha, and Debonair). I don't know where the fight takes place and what the exact requirements are. I heard you can't have any of the Zenobians. I am not sure if you can still have Dio or not. Also when faced with the decision on whether to "Follow Orders" and fight your father or not, DO IT! Follow Orders! Capture many towns ...be a bad boy/girl! |
So how exactly is Chaos Frame affected? There are many ways to change Chaos Frame, some have more affect then others ...and no, I do not know the weight scale but I can tell you what affects Chaos Frame to the best of my knowledge. By the way, Chaos Frame is a controversal subject to many OB players. Since I did not program this game, this is only what I believe up to this point.
HOW DO I RAISE/LOWER ALIGNMENT (ALI)? RAISING Alignment: (Most Effective to Least)
LOWERING Alignment: (Most Effective to Least)
Killing units has THE most effect on ALI. If a knight gets the killing blow on something that has a lower ALI than the knight's, than the knight's ALI will indeed increase. This is why once your characters get either extremely lawful or extremely chaotic they tend to stay that way because most enemy units are not maxed on ALI one way or the other. The only time I can see where this MIGHT conflict is when there is a big difference in levels between your character and the enemy character, say like 10 levels or more. Grouping w/ Lawful characters tends to raise ALI of lower alignment characters. Grouping w/ Chaotic characters, or even characters with just a plain lower ALI will lower someone's ALI if it is higher. So there is kind of a balancing effect going on. But the killing factor takes more presedence. So say you have a Paladin (Lawful) paired up with a Ghost (Chaotic) - normally the Paladin will lower in Ali if he gets no kills but if he gets the killing blow on a Chaotic character than his Ali will raise, for that battle. So say, somehow you ended up w/ a Lawful Sorceress and she needs to be Chaotic so she can class change to a Siren. Put her in a unit full of chaotic characters and have her kill Lawful characters ...and if possible lower level lawful characters. If you have no chaotic characters, than recruit some neutral ones. Ghosts, Skeletons, Pumpkin Heads, Black Dragons are great choices. I guess you could even use a Gremlin, but they kinda suck. Heck I even cycle my dragons and golems just to bring the ALI down of the others in that group. It is often a good idea to have a couple of units of Lawful, Chaotic, and Neutral. Not just for fighting, but for liberating towns as well. WHERE DO I GET THE ELEM PEDRAS? Obtaining the other Elem Pedras:
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Magnus Gallant |
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In Chapter 3, Magnus upgrades on his own to a Vanguard giving him... not much, rather disapointment ...even his default sword sucks. In Chapter 4 he becomes a General giving him one extra attack in the front row and Magic Plus in the back row. |
Diomedes Rangue |
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Dio upgrades to a Warrior at the beginning of Chapter 3 gaining one more attack in the front row. |
Leia Silvis |
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Joins at the beggining of Mission 3. She is like a Valkarie in the beggining of the game. She upgrades to a Rune Knight in Chapter 3 gaining Magic Plus (spells hit more than one enemy - like a Freya). |
Troi Tyton |
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Good Phalanx. Opens the Phalanx class for you if you don't already have one. He tends to be lucky, always finding neutral characters. Plus, his quest item rocks. |
Katreda Birall |
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Decent Cleric. Opens the Cleric class for you if you don't already have one. She seems pretty weak for a Cleric, her abilities do go up if you pair her up w/ her father, Asnabel, in the same group. Not sure what good the Angel's Brooch is. She can't wear it, unless you change her class, and it lowers INT. Maybe there is some hidden factor. Get it for the hell of it. |
Asnabel Birall |
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Great Beserker in the beginning of the game. Opens the Beserker class for you if you don't already have one. Even better when you get the Helm of the Fearless. One of the best helms, not the best but definately worth having. |
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Liedel Klein |
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Great archer in the beginning of the game. The quest item isn't too shabby either. :) |
Aisha Knudel |
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BEST Priest of the game. Opens the Priest class for you if you don't already have one. You should bow and pay homage to her. You refuse her help and you are missing a VERY powerful priest ...and you lose my respect. |
Vad Oroqui Zulenka |
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He is like a buffed up Ninja Master. Deadly up front, deadly in the back. Versatile and just plain kick ass! He won't be your strongest but he is definately worth having. Keeping him alive during the Mt. Ithaca stage is hard, but try your hardest and don't be afraid to hit the reset button. |
Saradin Carm |
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He is like a buffed up Archmage. Deadly, just plain deadly. Plus, he will be your only Warlock ...for that alone he is worth having. |
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Sheen Cocteau |
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He is a hawkman, that is all I know. I tried everything underneath the sun to try and get him. I sent every unit I had (female and male) to Coppermine to no avail. I talked w/ the little girl in another town (right above your base) sooo many times ...to no avail. Some say you can't get Liedel, Vad and Sheen. But I have heard others say that they have! A few others like DeathMage2. So he must be CF dependent. Or maybe this game still uses the Reputation Meter (but tis hidden like the Luck attribute) and he requires a low-mid rep meter. Oh well, tis all I know. I hear his Quest Item kicks butt so if you get him than make sure to get it. |
Ankiseth Gallant |
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Ankiseth is extremely powerful, combine a Cataphract and a Paladin powered up and you have Ankiseth. I sugest getting him. |
Meredia O'Keefe |
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A pretty and a pretty decent Siren. Opens up the Siren class if you haven't already. Worth it! Her spell casting power is 2nd only to Saradin. Her Quest Item sucks, a whole 2 resistence against strike. I am keeping it just in case more items = higher CF. Just in case. |
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Biske La Varet |
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I didn't get him. I have Ankiseth and the Zenobians. I believe you can still have Dio in your party to get them tho ...if I remember correctly, someone telling me this. |
Paul Lukische |
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I didn't get him. I chose Europea. I hear he is pretty good. His stage has an extra Ring of the Dead, so keep that in mind if you like Liches. Read the Special Classes for Lich to find out where. |
Europea Leada |
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Not bad at all. Not your typical redhead, her hair is flame red. Oh her fighting abilities? Not bad either. She seems to block a lot of hits and have pretty high critical hits. Comes w/ a pretty decent unit too! |
Quas Debonair |
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Not bad at all. Popular w/ the ladies. A General that has a purple carpet underneath when sitting in reserves, that is how important this guy is ...hehe! Has one of the coolest looking swords which is unchangeable. Doesn't beat around the bush, talks briefly and right to point. A definate must! |
Destin Farloda |
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The hero from the first Ogre Battle (March of the Black Queen) for the SNES. Oh man does he kick some butt! I have to admit that I like his winning line, "Who wants to step up to this?" He gets 3 attacks whether in the front row OR the middle row, which makes for some nice unit formations. A MOST definately must! I just found out something really cool about Destin from my own experiences. It appears he can not be put to sleep by the enemy. I have him as the leader in one of my groups, front row center. I have attacked numerous ghost units and EVERY ghost tries to put him asleep and they all fail, and fail miserably. Destin always resists! I do not know if other status change effects affects him or not. Need more time on that one. |
Gilbert Oblion |
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Like Saradin, Aisha, Destin, and Debonair, he is also from the first Ogre Battle (March of the Black Queen) for the SNES. He is pretty darn good too, comparable in strength to Debonair as oddly as that sounds, but only 2 attacks no matter where he is placed. Still he is a definate must. Get him and Destin and you *should* be heading towards a good ending. Though I have heard of people getting these two and still getting a CF of 0. But these two require a HIGH CF/Reputation at this point in the game at least. |
Carth Foreleson |
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Not far enough in game to confirm any of this. If you don't have a Black Knight, he will open up the class for you. |
HOW DO I GET THE SPECIAL CLASSES?
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See any false information so far? Let me know then! |
Angel Knight |
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Needle of Light
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Okay, I have gotten the elusive Angel Knight. This is how it works... kill off a female character (don't try w/ a special character unless you REALLY want to). I recommend a priest. Here are some tips to INCREASE YOUR ODDS (i.e. not 100% guarantee): This does NOT mean that you will be guaranteed an Angel Knight and your character still has a chance of turning into a Zombie! Sucks I know. If you don't mind playing the stage again, reset the game. Even more of a drag, I know. Personally I think the Angel Knight is worth it. Her attacks are a little below a Paladin's but her defense kicks butt, both magically and physcially! Banish looks like a golden halo flying pretty fast over a character's head, then golden spirals go down around the character w/ golden sparkles around the spirals. BIG improvement over what it used to look like in March of the Black Queen. It appears that by raising DEX, you can raise the her attack power, from what Dark Kirby has seen. Both of us have seen no improvement raising INT. Since the attack has a 'sword icon' next it, might be STR and DEX dependant. |
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Needle of Light
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Thanks to biggswedge who noticed Angel Knights do not have to have 137 DEX to evolve into a Seraph. He thinks about 117 DEX, +1/2. I had one evolve with around 120 DEX so I can confirm that 137 is wrong. They evolve at the end of a fight just like a dragon does assuming all the required stats are met and all the required equipment is available. All you gotta make sure is... that you have spare Baldr Mails lying around. Two ways I know of to get Baldr Mails (minus treasure and battle loot, sure fire ways) is to either, 1) Buy extra set of equipment for a Freya, and 2) Buy them at the shop in the Temple of Berthe stage. |
Dragoon |
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Dragon Helm
Dragon Armor (credit: Terren)
Sword of Tiamat
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Dragoons kick ass! Not as much as Fenril, Slust, and Fogel did back in the day ...especially Fogel, back in the day of Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen. Back in the day when I was young, I am not a kid anymore but some days I sit and wish I was a kid again. Back in the day... Ahhh hem! Xcuse me. |
Lich |
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Ring of the Dead
Bloodstained Robe
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Kerykeion
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They look cool, they look cool when kicking ass, they look cool winning. What more do ya want?! Biggswedge has noticed that a Lich either has full immunity to abnormal effects like sleep, posion, and paralyze which Paladine confirms. Merlin615 has said his Lich has been petrified before tho, so keep that in that mind. Lich can resist abnormal effects, minus petrification. |
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Pure-White Dress
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You should have zero problem finding a Spellbook by the time you make it to Mission 33. So just find a female character with ALI over 70. Ok, the game does not display numbers so just make sure the scale is tipped to the right and reads 'L' ...not 'N'. I can see two positions of the scale for 'L' so if it does not work then work on that character's ALI some more. Read the ALI section if you need help on raising ALI. |
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Bloody Emblem
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Personally I think they suck. If you need a door stopper for a stronghold than this is the best class (during the day). |
Black Knight |
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Satan's Bullova
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I know this is not a 'special class', but since this is one of the hardest classes to get and raises so many questions, I added it in for the hell of it ...this is a FAQ page after all. |
NOTE: Killing neutral characters for special items like killing the Black Dragon for the Kerykeion is rare, but you still you have a chance to get that item. So take that into consideration if you are having a hard time getting the item/s that are listed below.
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