U25 / U28
This page offers supporting and explanatory information for the U30 page.

Very much has been written about the development and success of the General Electric U25B, and also about the additional U25C, which were both uprated to 2800 HP as the U28B and U28C.  This material, then, must either be covered briefly or else exhaustively.  I have chosen to cover some relevant points about the U25/U28 as related to both each other, other locomotives and especially to the U30 in brief topic form below.
The U25 had introduced a new centralized locomotive air system which included mechanical dirt separation in a large, 1470 tube air filter placed in the base of the radiator compartment.  While effective enough, the entire air supply being taken in through the rear resulted in ingestion of everything; also, when dynamic braking was in use, the resistor grids in the intake screens heated the air which would then be used to cool the traction motors.  GE chose, for the U30 (and as we know the bulk of production U28 units) to rearrange the air system, and to split up the large air filter into numerous smaller ones.  At left, original U25 air system.
Diesel Engine.  Three different engine diagrams can be found in U25 manuals.  These are GE diagram numbers E9900, E9900A and E9900B.  These show numerous yet small detail changes, but it is known that in 1962 the firing order of the engine was changed.  In one manual for the U25, diagram number E-13461 is included.  This is the "steel cylinder head, single exhaust pipe" engine which appears to have been in development not only for the U28 but actually also for the U30.  In one sense, then, it could be considered that operational experience with this new design for the U30 was being rolled up by every U28 built.  It is known from GE material that the engine pictured in E-13461 is also known as the FDL-16D.  It is likely that GE considered the earlier versions as A, B and C in correspondence to the E-series drawing numbers given earlier.

Continuous speed and power matching.  GE officials and design engineers stated publicly numerous times that they wished that railroads would only operate high horsepower per axle units with other high horsepower per axle units, which would make power matching unnecessary.  They also knew that railroads could not promise to do this, and stated that power matching had to be included to protect the traction motors of the new GE locomotives.

The U25 and U28 used a system which measured voltage drop in the traction motor shunt field windings, and inferred temperature from this.  If the limit were exceeded, protective action occurred, and the Automatic Power Matching system went into action.  It caused the ORS solenoid on the governor to be briefly energized about 15 times per minute.  The resulting lowered average position of the load regulator caused excitation to, on average, be lowered.  This went on for seven minutes.  If the condition had cleared by then, normal operation resumed.  If not, the seven minute timer restarted, and protection continued. 

This was not the case with the U30 units.  In these units, no detection took place, and no timer existed.  When fitted with Automatic Power Matching, this system was always in operation.  One GE representative was asked during a meeting of the Railway Fuel and Operating Officers' Association how this system would appear to a locomotive engineer.  The response was that if a train were beginning to ascend a grade at speed, as that speed dropped down to around 20 MPH or so, the engineer would notice load current rise, but then hold steady at the continuous limit of 1195 amps.  The train speed would then balance out at some speed below 20 MPH as lower powered units began to take their share of the load at a lower speed.  However, from starting up to about 8 MPH the full range of excitation current limit was available to the engineer for starting and acceleration.  This new system was also mated with an entirely new transistorized excitation and control system, mounted on new modularized printed circuit cards.  Special solid state and/or modularized circuits accomplished the functions of matching alternator output to engine output by sensing current and voltage, and by forcing a power curve to the output of the alternator.  The Automatic Power Matching circuit was separate from these three other excitation circuits (again, voltage limit, current limit and function generator) and was optional on all U-series units, even the six-axle types.  Literally all of the excitation and control system of the U30 was new.  Only the old control stand remained, which itself would be replaced by a new "two lever" control stand, still with a 16 notch throttle, in early 1968.
Wheel Slip Control.  The U30 introduced an improved wheelslip system compared to that of older units.  In the U25/U28, each axle had a journal box mounted axle alternator; signals from these were compared to determine if one or more axles had a variance in speed.  Sensitivity was decreased with increasing locomotive speed to account for variations in wheel diameter due to wear.  In the U25/U28, the standard equipment included the Slip Suppression Brake Valve, which was triggered by slip detection (some units had a manual actuator button as well) and which very rapidly applied and released the independent brake (only on the affected unit.)  If this was not effective, sand was applied, excitation reduced and the warning light on the control stand energized.  The SSBV was the cause of some trouble, although GE representatives indicated that improper maintenance or lack of attention to the valve itself could cause problems.  Later in U25 production, prior to introduction of the U28, an "All Electric" system was made optional, which was the same system minus the SSBV equipment.

The U30 improved upon this system by adding two further circuits to the slip detection portion of the system.  The U30, which still used axle alternators, was also able to detect low speed synchronous slip of all axles, and high speed synchronous slip and spin of all axles as well.  The SSBV system was optional by this time, with all-electric slip control being standard. 

Not directly related to wheel slip equipment but nevertheless interesting is the optional Pinion Slip Alarm.  As early as partway through U25 production, GE received complaints about traction motor pinion slippage on U25 units in heavy haulage.  GE noted that it had never seen a properly applied pinion experience a slip, but at the request of the L&N had developed a pinion slip alarm which could be had by any customer at extra cost. 
Click here to read more about the development of the U-boats from U25 through U36
At right, rare photo of General Electric UD18 in GE demonstrator scheme.  Sent to us by Steve Palmano.  These are often thought of as the progenitors of the U25, but many other types were also built.  Some of these were actually built for N de M.