YES:   Please print this page and distribute it to people in movie theaters where Who Killed the Electric Car? is shown.
PRINT THE "PRINT THIS" PAGE BY CLICKING HERE
Why Wait For Detroit?
Drive a Converted Electric Vehicle Today
The Sony Classics documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?" has galvanized the community of EV converters and their advocates.

-- I have had several requests to put the book
Why Wait For Detroit? back into print or at least to convert it to an ebook.

-- We expect hundreds of requests for a converted EV.  Please visit our list of nightmares before looking for EVs for sale.

Questions?  Write to mistermath@comcast.net (webmaster) and the question will be directed to someone who can get you some answers.
-- Steve McCrea, editor,
Why Wait For Detroit?
So, you saw the movie and now you want to own an electric car?     PRINT A PAGE (click HERE)

Here are some questions:
1.  Is the car reliable?  Does the car look professionally converted?

2.  Is the car safe?  Are the batteries in a container?  Are the batteries located close to the center of the vehicle?

3.  Is the conversion price below $5,000?  If so, it probably uses surplus parts or components that were not designed for use in a car. 

4.  See
Nightmares.

If you are interested in driving an electric car, go to
EV-America.com and look for the list of Recommended Converters.

5.  Are you interested in becoming a CONVERTER of electric vehicles? 
Are you mechanically inclined?
Do you have 5 years' experience in the auto repair business (body work) with welding and wiring skills?

Can you follow directions?  Do you fix your mistakes and avoid cutting corners?  If so, contact Mike Moore at
AmpMobileConversions.com
THIS PAGE:   www.oocities.org/whywaitfordetroit 
Do you want to offer a reliable product to your neighbors?  Do you want to help people in your community become economic patriots?
Let's turn more cars into Electric Vehicles -- let's power more trips with DOMESTIC FUEL.
www.sonyclassics.com/
whokilledtheelectriccar/electric.html
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Are you an economic patriot?
I am.  That's why I'm willing to use my bicycle to go to work.  That's why I perspire instead of using my car's air conditioning.
When I use gasoline, 60% or more of my fuel expense is going out of the country (adding to the trade deficit).
So I prefer using a propane vehicle or an ethanol car or ... an electric vehicle.
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Tell me where to send my latest video on CD:  The title is
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It's not a catchy title, but I bet it will help you understand why someone accepts a car that goes slower than most cars.  If people are dying to protect my oil supply, then I should do what I can to reduce the amount of oil that I use.
I'll send you this video and an envelope -- if you find the CD helpful, send me $5 to cover my costs.  This CD retails for $20...but it's yours for just $5...if you like it.  If you see the video and you don't want to pay the $5, no problem -- just send me an email message and give the CD to a neighbor. 
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What is keepng the electric vehicle conversion industry from expanding? 

The lack of generally accepted standards.
The lack of UL approval.
(United Laboratories)
Most people would like a cheaper home.  Most homes would be cheaper if there was no system of inspections.  However, most people would like to have a home that has been inspected by a government official for safety -- we prefer to buy a home that conforms to local building practices.

Why not build the same standards into EV conversions?

This web page calls on converters to work through the process of developing standards for safe and reliable converted EVs.  The process can take place largely on the Internet and through emails virtually all of the stakeholders can participate in commenting on the proposed standards.  Standard making is essentially documenting prevailing practices in the conversion industry.  Through a somewhat detailed practice that ensures that all potential participants have been heard, a list of industry practices is assembled.  These practices are discussed and refined and the commenters then vote to accept these practices as the industry's standards.   Independent approval bodies, such as UL, can be invited to evaluate the standards for an additional level of independent assessment.
-- Richard Minner (paraphrased from a telephone call)

For information about how to get the standards-writing process started, write to mistermath @comcast.net and we'll post your interest here.  Once the standards writing process gets started, draft versions of the standards could be posted on this web page to encourage discussion.

The following people and companies have expressed interest in participating in a discussion leading to the adoption of industry standards for the EV conversion industry.
(Name and Email address)
-- Paula Moore, Paula@ampmobileconversions.com
-- Steve Clunn, steveclunn@bellsouth.net
-- Bob Batson, evamerica@aol.com ***
--
*** Bob notes that EV standards were drafted in 1992 by the Electric Vehicle Industy Association, a coalition of EV converters.  He hopes that current efforts will fare better than the time-consuming process that was pursued 15 years ago.
(write to mistermath@comcast.net to get on this list)
Let's get started
http://www.ansi.org/about_ansi/faqs/faqs.aspx?menuid=1

ANSI itself is non-governmental.  It's basically like UL, but far broader. Here's the key Q from the FAQ

Q: Does ANSI develop standards?
A: ANSI establishes
the consensus procedures that are the basis for the development of American National Standards. We then accredit standards developing organizations that operate in accordance with these procedures, and approve their draft standards provided they are developed via this process.
Are you an EV Pioneer?

Some people say, "I want to wait until a better battery is develped...THEN I'll buy an EV."

This argument misses the opportunity:  you can become an EV Pioneer and help pave the way for new batteries.  Suppose 50,000 cars were converted to battery power.  That's a new market for battery manufacturers.  Many of those cars would become potential customers of
a new battery (yet to be developed) that could affordably double the range of these cars.

Why not make a difference and become an EV Pioneer? -- put one of those 50,000 EVs on the road and
help build demand for a better battery.
-- Richard Minner 
Examples of the Standards Writing Process...
What's the best alternative fuel to use? For some areas, it is hydroelectric, for other areas the best alternative is wind, or natural gas.  Yes, when you drive a battery-powered car, you are driving a natural gas vehicle in some regions of the USA.  Electric cars are the most flexible-fuel vehicles...and the fueling infrastructure is in place. When a fuel improves (switching from coal-fired plants to a renewable fuel), the EV users automatically support the improvement.
An EV can "convert" to run on another alternative fuel without any cost for the conversion.  Just change the fuel used to generate the electricity for the region.
-- Richard Minner (paraphrased)
50,000 additional EVs on the road by Dec. 31, 2008
What will it take?

40 to 50 converters, each doing 20 to 50 conversions per month
Generally accepted industry practices
Virtually no innovations (we have everything needed)
At least 1 additional million batteries...
Alternatively fueled vehicles need:
- a fueling infrastructure
- a network of professionals to maintain the vehicles
- a band of zealous advocates

Natural gas 500?  fueling stations?
Propane  5,000? fueling stations?
Ethanol  ??? stations?
Methanol 200 fueling stations? (mostly in California)

Electricity  100 million homes (and hundreds of thousands of extension cords...)
Why would anyone pay $15,000 for a car that can go only 50 miles at a time?

What are the costs of owning an EV?
What are the costs of owning an Electric Car?
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