John and Elizabeth Winters
 
  John Winters                            Born - 1785
                                                 Township of Monaghan, County Armagh, Ireland
                                                     Died - March 12, 1878
                                                 Lakefield Village , Peterborough County, Ontario

               Married August 5, 1822 in St. Thomas Anglican Church Belleville, Ontario Canada to:

  Elizabeth Longwell                    Born about 1805
       (AKA Betsy)                          Upper Canada
                                                      Died 1870
                                                      Marmora Township, Hastings County, Ontario

                          
Elizabeth was the daughter of John Longwell and Margaret Lake
                                    
    
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"May the road rise up to meet you
May the wind be always at your back
May the sun shine warm upon your face
And the rains fall soft upon your fields...
And, until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of his hand."

~ An Old Irish Blessing ~
I have been able to find documentation on the following children of John and Elizabeth Winters: Nicholas, James Longwell, Silas, John, Catharine (married Francis Grimmeson), Margaret (married John Wannamaker, Rachel and Elizabeth (married Captain Thomas Sacret).  As Nicholas was born about 1827 and John and Betsy married in 1822 it is likely that there were more children from this marriage not yet identified.  Census records, baptismal, marriage, death registrations and obituaries of family members tracked them through Ontario starting in Clarke Township, Durham County Ontario (pre 1840) to Barrie and then to Marmora Township, Hastings County (about 1850 - 1870).  The 1860 Heads of Household Index list John the elder sharing concession 9, lot 20 with his son Silas.  John Winters junior and family were living on concession 9, lot 19.  The 1864 and 1869 Heads of Household index list the men still living on the same lots though Silas had moved to Port Hope, Ontario with his family.  What became of John and Elizabeth after 1860 remained a mystery until June 28, 2005 when I recieved the following obituary:



COUNTY INTELLIGENCE
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(From our own Correspondence and Contemporaries)
LAKEFIELD
Death's Doings ---- Monday last saw the expiring breath of a gentleman who came to this country with the regulars of 1812.  John Winters was born in 1785, so that he would be 93 years of age at the time of his death.  He was born in the township of Monaghan, Ireland.  After leaving the regular army he settled in the Township of Clarke in Durham County.  He resided there for five or six years when he removed to Marmora, Hastings County, where he resided till the death of his wife some eight years ago.  Since then he has lived in Lakefield at the residence of his son-in-law, Captain Sacret.  He served in the rebellion of 1836-37, on the loyalist side.  He leaves a large circle of relatives to mourn his loss.

Marmora Township, Hastings County Ontario Land Record


No 135
Entered and Registered this twenty-fourth day of December 1867 at forty-five minutes past ten AM in Book B for Marmora page 185 no 135

This indenture made the twenty-sixth day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty four between John Winters the Elder of the Township of Marmora in the County of Hastings Yeoman of the first part and Elizabeth Winters wife of the said party of the first part of the second part and John James Bleecker Flint of the Town of Belleville in the County of Hastings Barrister of the third part, Witnesseth that the said party of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of two hundred dollars of lawful money of Canada to him in hand paid by the said party of the third part at or before the sealing and delivery of these presents (the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged) hath granted, bargaanied, sold, transferred and quitted claim and by these presents, doth grant, bargain, sell, transfer and quit claim unto the said party of the third part.  All his estate right title interest claim and demand both at law and in equity or otherwise hosoever and whether in possession or expectancy of unto or out of all and singular that certain parcel or tract of land and prenises situate lying and being in the Township of Marmora in the County of Hastings and being composed of the west half of lot number twenty in the ninth concession of the said Township of Marmora and containing by measurement one hundred acres be the same more or less.  Together with all the appurteuancies? thereunto belonging or appertaining to have and to hold the aforesaid lans and premises with all and s? the appurtenances therto belonging or appertaining unto and to the use of the said party of the third part his heirs and assigns for ever.  Subject to the reservations limitations provisoes and conditions expressed in the original grant thereof from the Crown.  And the siad party of the second part with the privity and consent of her said husband (restified by his execution of these presents) hereby releases unto the said party of the third part his heirs and assigns all her poer in the said land and premises.  In witness whereof the said parties to these presents have hereunto set their hand and seals the day and year first above written

Signed Sealed and delivered in the presence of (Signed) Silas Winters
(Signed) John (X - his mark) Winters Senior
(Signed) Elizabeth (X - her mark) Winters

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This indenture made in duplicate the sixth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty eight in pursuance of the act respecting short forms of conveyances between John Winters of the Township of Marmora in the County of Hastings and Province of Ontario yeoman
John Wannamaker of the Township of Madoc in the County and Province aforesiad of the second part yeoman
Witneseth that in consideration of seven hundred and fifty dollars of lawful money of Canada now paid by the said party of the second part to the said party of the first part the receipt whereof is hereby by him forever all and singular that certain parcel or tract of land and prenises situate lying and being in the Township of Marmora in the County of Hastings and Province of Ontario containing? by measurement one hundred acres of land be the same more or less being composed of the west half of twenty in the ninth concession of the said township of Marmora.
To have and tohold unto the siad party of the second part his heirs and assigns to and for his and their sole and only use forever subject nevertheless to the reservations limitations provisoes and conditions expressed in the original grant thereof from the Crown.
The said party of the first part covenants with the said party of the second part that he has the right to convey the said lands to the said party of the second part.
And that the said party of the second part shall have quiet possession of the said lands free from all incumbrances.
And that the said party of the first part will execute such further assurances of the said lands as may be requisite.
And that the said party of the first part as done no act to encumber the said lands.
And the said party of the first part releases to the said party of the second part all his claims upon the said lands.
In Witness whereof the said parties hereto have hereunto set their hands and seals
signed John (X - his mark) Winters
signed John Wannamaker

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***  The Heads of Household index taken in 1869 still has John the Elder living on this land.  It is possible he sold it but continued taking care of it for John Wannamaker who was his son-in-law.  This last transaction was not registered until March 19, 1870.  In accordance with the new obituary information regarding John Winters,  Elizabeth apparently died around this time and he left Marmora.  ***
Found in May, 2005
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Rachel Winters
                                              Born about 1843
                                                                               Ontario, Canada

The only concrete evidence I have of Rachel is her being recorded in the 1861 census records]of Marmora Township, Hastings County, Ontario.  It recorded her as being an "idiot" which could have meant many things in those days.  It could have meant she was deaf or blind or mentally handicapped.  I am actively trying to find out more information about Rachel.
1861 Census of Marmora Township, Hastings County, Ontario, Canada
                                 Family of John and Elizabeth

Nicholas Winters                                                            

married to:                                                                                    
Mary Ann Eakins                                                                        
Sarah J. Little                                                                              

children:
John, Thomas,                                                          
Silas, Robert, Mary, Delile,
Maudie, Elizabeth & Catherine


Silas Winters                                                                         

married to:                                                                                       
Elizabeth Pricillia Miller                                                                  
Ellen Amelia Pomeroy
Louise Hawkins 

children:
Simon,                                                                     
Sovina (m) Henry Pethick                                                    
Eva Jane (m) Edward B. Weart                                           
Margaret, Matilda, Charled, Edward                                   
Nellie (m) Eli Stover                                                               
Frederick (m) Leatha May Noble                                                          

Margaret Winters                                                                                                                      
married:                                                                                      
John A. Wannamaker                                                               

children:                                                                                      
Martha (m) Ira Rogers                        
William (m) Phronie Tice                                                          
Silas                                                                                              
Mary Elizabeth (m) John Bickel
Fanny Catherine (m) David Pulver & John McKenzie
Sarah Jane (m) Cecil Palmer
Delila Etta (m) David Rogers                                                       

Frances Howard (m) Clara Planter
Edith (m) George Bowman &                                      
George Sine/Syne

Rachael Winters
James Winters

married to:

Elizabeth Cleminger
Margaret

children:
Ida, Stella, Mable

John Winters

married to:
Eliza Sarah Downard

children:
Nicholas (m) Maggie McRay
Mary Ann (m) Robert McKnight
Elizabeth (m) Abraham Murphy
Sarah Jane Winters
Silas (m) Annabell Kirk  
John Wesley (m) Mary Ann Cook
& Annie McLean
William (m) Anna Becker

Catherine Winters

married:
Francis Grimmison

children:
John Longwell (m) J. MacDonald
James, Samuel, Ernest,   Catharine & unknown female

Elizabeth Winters

married:
Thomas Sacret

Robert (m) Nancy
Herbert Longwell (m)  Louise Allen/Alan