Joseph Furze bc 1795 at Batcombe, Somerset. UK married Elizabeth / Bessie / Betsey News December 2004 Simple tree here 2006 [we now have the marriage info for them thanks to a kind researcher named Peggy on www.rootsweb.com]
"Joseph FURZE married Betsey LAMBERT on 3 Feb 1823 at Shepton Mallet.
Witnesses William Lambert, Elizabeth Wiltshire [probably her father &/ or siblings]
(from S. Mallet Parish register).Their children all born Somerset, England. Searching for Joseph's baptism record near Batcombe Somerset and his will [ Dec 2004]
- Frederick FURZE [1824-1825] son of Joseph and Elizabeth, schoolmaster.
- Francis FURZE [1826-1826] son of Joseph and Elizabeth, schoolmaster.
- June Elizabeth FURZE [1827- ?] daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth, schoolmaster.
m SIRCOM - ch: Henry Fuze SIRCOM bc 1850- Henry Furze b 1832 of Bristol, Heathcote, Nagambie and Avenel. Victoria
- Frederick Furze [1834- 1858] death in Bristol, Dec quarter , Volume 6a, page 31- aged about 24 - 2 years back from the Crimean War.>
- Ellen Mary [1836 - 1857 ]
It is not in the Bristol City index of wills 1793 - 1858 [no mentions of any Furze] here2005
Batcombe Somerset was visited by our cousins Bill and Prue Spaul 2005 and here are some of their photos - it is hard to find Batcombe - "on a single lane road winding through farm country with high hedgerows on either side of the road its way down in the valley but the church is on top of a hill."
Church Batcombe Somerset - on top of a hill.
Prue at the font inside
Directory Information:
[From The London & Provincial Medical Directory 1949]
1815 Registered surgeon named Joseph Furze before 1815. - not our Joseph surely.
1849 "Tower Hill", [there is one in Devon, Pembroke, and Hertford and Bristol!] yes it is a street very close to Narrow Plain Road, Bristol where he lived in 1851.
Could our Joseph Furze have become a surgeon by 20-221 years of age? I think not since investigating the history of surgeons..
"To become a true (medical) Doctor, one had to rain at London, Edinburgh or Dublin. But anyone could become a surgeon - or "barber and surgeon", as the trade started, with a red-and-white spiral-striped pole outside the shop to represent the blood and soap as advertisement! But being untrained and without a diploma, surgeons had to call themselves 'Mr', not 'Doctor'. Commonly they were both Surgeon and Apothecary. See history of surgeons here
Note Joseph Furze lived at Tower Hill Bristol not Clifton House.Part of page of Hunts 1850 Post Office Directory for Bristol and South Wales -thanks to this great web site of online directories!
1854 "Clifton House, Clifton, Bristol" UK [Laurie Hocking's "The Furze Family in Australia"]
[ I do not think this is so - see history of this house below]
Modern map of Bristol with St Philips & St Jacobs church, address is Tower Hill..
Perhaps there was a hospital at the site of the health clinic when Joseph lived nearby 1850s.1858 Slaters Directory of Gloucester, [fiche GLS 81 AIGS] [No Furze in their Bristol 1881 dir.]
Bristol:
Joseph Furze, chemist and surgeon, Narrow Plain street, St Philip parish.
Frederick Furze, marble mason, Hutwells [?] road, [perhaps a cousin or Henry's brother as Dierectorys are often out of date fast]]
Frederick Furze: fought in the Crimean War and died 2 years after returning, of a chest complaint. [source: family]
Death of a Frederick Fuze in the freebmd shows one died Bristol Dec qrtr 1858 Vol 6a Page 31.---------------------
Deaths March Quarter, 1878-- NB big blanks in data for deaths aroudn thsi time. 1858-70
Furze Joseph aged 72 Newton Abbott, [Torquay?] .district / 5b vol / 128p -not so likely him as this is in Devon where there are a lot of Furzes- need to get this death certificate? No----------------------
NEW 28 Jan 2004
Baptismal records from BATCOMBE sent by a kind man via internet: See all about Batcombe Vale -with photos here
This new set of baptisms is our family although our Joseph Furze was not known to be a school teacher in 1824.
[Batcombe, is about 3 miles from Shepton Mallett]Email : 23 Jan 2004, "I have in my records of BATCOMBE
- Frederick Furze baptised 38th March 1824, burial 7th September 1825
son of Joseph and Elizabeth, schoolmaster.- Francis Furze baptised 22nd January 1826, burial 8th November 1826
daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth, schoolmaster.- June Elizabeth Furze baptised 29th October 1827.
daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth, schoolmaster "
NB June or Jane see census on Henrys page well the writer leaves his a s like a u see Batcombe looks like Butcombe
- Henry Furze baptised 26 August 1832 ? son of "Bessie" and Joseph FURZE
- Frederick Furze baptised 27 July, born 10 June, 1834 son of Joseph & Elizabeth FURZE
" from LDS- IGI Birth: FREDERICK FURZE: born10 JUN 1834 , Christening:
27 JUL 1834 Wesleyan, Glastonbury, Somerset, England"
- Ellen Mary baptised 17 April 1836 daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth FURZE
Baptismal records of a Wesleyan church Glastonbury, Somerset England,
mother entered as "Bessie" for Henry and Frederick and Ellen Mary only at this church.
"Death: March quarter, 1857 Ellen Mary Furze Bristol [district] 6a [vol] 23 [page]"
Free bmd- no age probably her]Elizabeth Furze bpt [see above red] m 1849
[name indexed freebmd as Jane Elizabeth, Bristol, June qrtr, Vol 11, page 232
to Henry SIRCOM [source email from M.Sircom. UK March 2003]
(son of John SIRCOM [1792-1867, whose eldest son John SIRCOM arr. Vic. "1855")
= eldest son Henry Furze SIRCOM [http://www.mit.edu/~dfm/genealogy/sercombe.html#som-glo sircombe web site]
Henry SIRCOM, b. ca. 1825 at Bristol, Gloucestershire,
m. 23 Jun 1849 at St. Phillip and St. Jacob, Bristol,
Jane Elizabeth FURZE (b. ca. 1827 at Bristol or Westcombe, [actually 1851 census Batcombe] Somerset, daughter of Joseph FURZE).
[Their son was Henry Furze SIRCOM in 1851 census aged 1.]
- Henry Furze SIRCOM, b. ca. 1849 at Bristol,
m. reg. Q3 1868 at Bristol R.D., Kate Mary OWEN[freebmd](b.c. 1849 in Somerset).In 1881, a commission merchant, living at 16 Wells Terrace, Bedminster, Somerset, with his wife Kate, their sons Francis, Harold, and John, and a general servant. In 1891, a manager to timber merchants, living with his parents, together with his sons Francis, Harold, and John.
- Francis William Henry SIRCOM, b. ca. 1876 at Dursley, Gloucestershire, b. reg. Q4 1876 at Dursley R.D., d. 17 Dec 1944, bur. at Truro, Cornwall. In 1881, living with his parents. In 1891, living with his father.
- Harold S. SIRCOM, b. ca. 1878 at Bristol. In 1881, living with his parents. In 1891, living with his father.
- John C. SIRCOM, b. ca. 1880 at Bristol. In 1881, living with his parents. In 1891, living with his father.
- Jane E. SIRCOM, b. ca. 1855 at Bristol. In 1881, living with her uncle Richard SIRCOM.
- Ellen Mary SIRCOM, b. ca. 1859 at Bristol. In 1881 and 1901, living with her parents.
One banckrupcy ! < "[29 Apr 1903, p. 11, col. f] Bankruptcies - Sircom, Henry Furze -- entry in Palmer's index, complete article not yet obtained> from http://www.mit.edu/~dfm/genealogy/sercombe-news.html
1851 Census for Gloucestershire Bristol: Parish of St Phillips & St Jacobs,Bristol -[ HO/107/1954, part 3, Enumeration district 1z, page 31.] (or st philips and st Jacobs Glouc. HO 107/375 for 1851 Bristol.)
I note one Jane Elizabeth
xxxx born Batcombe Somerset, was living in the house next door to
Joseph Furze and co in the Bristol Census - and they had a son listed,
Henry Furze xxx aged 1 - her husband's name is Henry SIRCOM.
I did see the St Caths British Marriage
Indexes 28-1-2004 and confirmed that the Henry SIRCOM
married "Jane Elizabeth FURZE" Bristol District, pg 232 June
quarter 1849. A marriage certificate would confirm this but is unnecessary
as she is living next door to her parents in the 1851 census.
See Dewelling before Furzes: Henry
SIRCOM aged 25, accountant, born Bristol, wife June Elizabeth
aged 23 born Batcombe, Somerset, Henry Furze SIRCOM aged 1
born Bristol.
NB First columns is the street
and dwelling number- not always the same a the house numbers today.
Second column is the persons
name, third column relationship to the head of the household, the next
column indicated if the person ie either married or no- this means
they may be widowed or divorced [no such thing then except for nobility]
separated, or never married,
Third column shows age-
first of these narrow columns is age of female, second narrow column is
for the males age, then the occupation, all people under a certain age
were not supposed to be working so the word scholar was put there or the
parent would be fined, the next column is for the place of birth,
The far right column
is for a ticks to indicate a deaf or dumb or blind or
idiot person!
Note only the Furze's have
ticks- how could they be like this when one is a surgeon one a printer
and one a surgeon's apprentice?
Clifton Hill House part of University of Bristol
selected from http://www.bris.ac.uk/Depts/CliftonHill/architec.htm
Clifton Hill House is an 18th century merchant´s house on Clifton Hill -part of University in 1909.
Clifton Hill House was built between 1746 and 1750 for Paul Fisher, a linen draper, wealthy merchant and ship owner. He was prominent in the foundation of the Bristol Royal Infirmary in 1735.In 1851 Clifton Hill House was bought by Dr. Symonds, a well-known Bristol physician who was famous not only for his medical proficiency but also for his gift at entertaining the literary and artistic élite of his time. . The house was then filled with distinguished and talented people including Jenny Lind, the celebrated Victorian singer. She sang several times at the Victoria Rooms and in 1862 stayed at Clifton Hill House and sang in what is now the Symonds Music Room.
Other famous people stayed at Clifton Hill House; John Masefield, the Poet Laureate and Dame Clara Butt who, in 1921, gave a concert in the house to launch a fund for the construction of Manor Hall. When Dr. Symonds died in 1871, the house passed on to his son.
Bristol 1901 Census Bristol. Sircom and Furze family - what happend to Henry Furze Sircom? b 1850?Edmund Sircom 19 Bristol Bedminster Bristol Bristol one only !
Name Age Where Born Administrative County Civil Parish Occupation
... Furze 3 Glaston Bristol Bristol Bristol
Albert Furze 17 Bristol Bristol Bristol Cocoa Operative
Albert Furze 53 Bristol Bristol Bristol Bootmaker
Alfred Furze 60 Bristol Bristol Bristol Bankers Clerk
Anna Furze 51 Bristol Bristol Bristol
Charlotte Furze 49 Bristol Bristol Bristol Fish Dealer
Cordelia Furze 70 North Tamerton Cornwall Bristol Bristol Beer Retailer
Daisy Furze 11 Bristol Gloucestershire Bristol Bristol
Daisy Furze 20 Bristol Bristol Bristol
Elizabeth Furze 29 Bristol Bristol Bristol
Elizabeth Furze 33 Glaston Bristol Bristol Bristol
Emily Furze 39 Bristol Gloucestershire Bristol Bristol
Florina Furze 9 Bristol Gloucestershire Bristol Bristol
George Furze 27 Bristol Bristol Bristol Dock Labourer
George Furze 36 Plymouth Devon Bristol Bristol Coin Warehouse Manager
George Furze 64 Bristol Bristol Bristol Rope Maker
Hannah Furze 60 Monmouth Chepstow Bristol Gloucestershire Bristol
Henry Furze 23 Bristol Bristol Bristol Oil Cake Labourer
Henry Furze 28 Bristol Bristol Bristol Circular ...
Herbert Furze 57 Somerset Long Sutton Bristol Gloucestershire Bristol Sculptor
Laura Furze 4 Bristol Bristol Bristol
Mabel Furze 16 Bristol Bristol Bristol Cocoa Operative
Marian Furze 8 Bristol Gloucestershire Bristol Bristol
Mary Furze 61 Bristol Bristol Bristol
Rose Furze 24 Bristol Bristol Scullery Maid
Theodore Furze 49 Bristol Bristol Bristol Merchants Clerk
William Furze 32 Devon Barnstaple Bristol Bristol House Traveller Provision
To add information or corrections- with source - please contact Liz great granddaughter of Henry Furze, Liz R -email to Liz